PostGame Thread Official Post Game Thread- Pats beat the Texans

[VectorPrime]

You mean they have to figure out how to draft players like Jackson, Hightower and DMac? I just want to make sure you fly fully understand the irony of your post

Hightower and DMac were drafted a football lifetime ago good lord.

 

[VectorPrime]

I love how he calls coaches that have 8+ years in the league "ROTC Kids".

Coaches on the Pats with 8+ years:
Ivan Fears - 31 years
Josh McDaniels - 21 years
Mick Lombardi - 11 Years
Steven Belichick - 10 years
Moses Cabrera - 10 years
Evan Rothstein - 10 years
Matt Patricia - 18 years

Note: I am not counting the Playing years for Troy Brown, Jerod Mayo or Billy Yates the way they have on the Patriots.com Website.

I'm waiting for him to explain how all the other guys are "friends" or "kids of friends". It's going to be interesting.

Mick Lombardi, Steve Belichick, and Patricia are PRECISELY the kinds of people I’m talking about. Cool Steve has 11 years working under his dad. We have absolutely no ability to judge literally anything he’s ever done.

and most of this forum hates McDaniels like poison too.

 

[Twentytothree]

Bad decision making. He was a quality NFL player and we should have kept him given the injury history of Harris.

Of all the *****ing and moaning about BB's decision making, this is the one I agree with. Didn't seem like an irresistible return for a solid player.

 

[sb1]

Jones has been great and his only issue is when he gets too aggressive. So pats fans complain they aren’t letting him be aggressive.
It’s a process.

Promising…yes.

”Great” is a bit of a stretch at this point. Has not thrown for 300 yards in a game this season. Averaging a meh 7 yards per completion. Has not been accurate throwing downfield. Could have had a couple more picked today.

His coach agrees with me, hence passing up 4th and 3 last week.

 

[reflexblue]

Call was bull. Ball was over the line.

That was the point i turned the game off. i thought i had posted that ive had enough of watching goodells nfl. There was a discussion on here when they came out with ''all fumbles will be reviewed by the league in NY''. that the new rule could be used to put a thumb on the scale. In the days before the rule went into effect the reffs would spend 2,3,4 minutes reviewing a fumble, now it takes the guys in NY thirty seconds, thats fishy. And your suppose to have incontravertible evidence to over rule a ruling on the field, there was no such evidence on todays play.

 

[DaBruinz]

I want a team that can be better than .500 (well technically 8-9 now) going forward for the foreseeable future. I do not believe that this team as constructed and coached can.

Jackson, Hightower and McCourty are likely gone after this year. Who is going to build this team back up because even after spending $200 million there are holes everywhere and they’ll get worse next season. They can’t just buy a solution. Someone needs to figure out how to draft and find diamonds in the rough for cheap.

Why would Jackson be gone? Patriots can slap the franchise tag on him. They aren't going to use it on Wynn or Brown, that's for sure.
The "200M is what the contracts total out during their life".

But you're right. The Patriots have never thought in advance. They've never planned for the future. Every time they've won, it was pure luck..

 

[TheRainMaker]

Because you can't have unlimited players on your roster

I’ll rephrase the question:

Why did Bill keep Bolden over Michel?

I already know the answer and one many people don’t agree with.

 

[Pats2000]

I’ll rephrase the question:

Why did Bill keep Bolden over Michel?

I already know the answer and one many people don’t agree with.

Because someone has to play special teams too

And he was able to get something in return for Sony

 

[Ollie]

That was the point i turned the game off. i thought i had posted that ive had enough of watching goodells nfl. There was a discussion on here when they came out with all fumbles will be reviewed by the league in NY that the new rule could be used to put a thumb on the scale. In the days before the rule went into effect the reffs would spend 2,3,4 minutes reviewing a fumble, now it takes the guys in NY thirty seconds, thats fishy. And your suppose to have incontravertible evidence to over rule a ruling on the field, there was no such evidence on todays play.

yep there was no way it should have been overturned and it was just brushed under the carpet.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Because someone has to play special teams too

And he was able to get something in return for Sony

Yep, the good old “special teams” argument.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Of all the *****ing and moaning about BB's decision making, this is the one I agree with. Didn't seem like an irresistible return for a solid player.

The better question is which RB you would have cut instead? It’s not like any of them were on IR at cutdown and we were only keeping so many.

There’s this mentality that if we hadn’t traded Michel we still would have kept all the RBs and used roster spots for all of them without any thought to where that roster spot comes from. Second guess the decision all you want, but follow it through and tell me who is the player you got rid of instead.

 

[Pats1971]

Why would Jackson be gone? Patriots can slap the franchise tag on him. They aren't going to use it on Wynn or Brown, that's for sure.
The "200M is what the contracts total out during their life".

But you're right. The Patriots have never thought in advance. They've never planned for the future. Every time they've won, it was pure luck..

I think people just thought they would get a better return on 160 mil.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Also I just don't get why Houston was playing games with the punt at that point. They were up by 13, it was 4th down on their side of the field. A major screw up, arguably cost them the game. And what were they hoping would even happen? How was the punter supposed to get back into position?

Moments like that make you appreciate BB even moreso

 

[Pats1971]

Moments like that make you appreciate BB even moreso

It wouldnt take Bill to not make a stupid play like that.

 

[Steve102]

Random Thoughts:

• Texans lost, the Pats didn't win.
• 3 screen plays back to back in the red zone? Three?
• Jackson... Not so fast, young man.
• Mac looked ok when it mattered.
• Bill loves to bench is RBs who fumble. WTF are you gonna do when there's no one left, Bill?!?!?!?!?!
• Please for the love of God, no more Bolden in key moments.
• Bill got outcoached until the stupid azz punt fiasco. Then Houston was exposed, and suddenly Bill remembered he was Bill eff'n Belichick.

Meh. Wins count, style points don't.

 

[DaBruinz]

Mick Lombardi, Steve Belichick, and Patricia are PRECISELY the kinds of people I’m talking about. Cool Steve has 11 years working under his dad. We have absolutely no ability to judge literally anything he’s ever done.

and most of this forum hates McDaniels like poison too.

Mick Lombardi worked in other organizations as well. The Jets and 49ers.

If you think you can't judge what Steve Belichick has done then you have no ability to judge anything ANY coach has done. Steve was given tons of credit for the improved DB play when he was the DB coach. Oh.. it was the players who credited him. Including Edelman.

No. Most of this forum doesn't hate McDaniels like poison. That's you exaggerating. Many question his play-calling at times, but they don't "hate" him.

Waiting for you to explain how the rest of the coaching staff is "friends of Belichick" or "Kids of Friends of Belichick". Something you've been called out on and have yet to back up. Whining about Lombardi, the 2 Belichicks and Patricia when there are 23 people on the coaching staff including Patricia (Sr. Advisor). That's 17.3% of the coaching staff.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Bill loves to bench is RBs who fumble. WTF are you gonna do when there's no one left, Bill?!?!?!?!?!

Unless they are a star RB, this weird phenomenon goes on around the league. Apparently, Coaches are unaware that the most hit position in the league with the shortest shelf may fumble on occasion.

 

[Ross12]

It seemed to me like Cajuste was at RT and Herron at LT all game, but the "starting lineup" on the CBS graphic had them reversed because they had originally warmed up in that formation, so it was confusing. I'd be curious to see the tape too.

What I do remember noticing is Karras starting at LG with Ferentz at RG, but for at least a few plays I saw in the 4th, they were swapped.

Not sure how to feel about Cajuste looking better at RT than Herron or Durant despite never getting snaps over those guys in the last 4 weeks. I guess we'll see if that changes the next 2 games since Brown's on IR at least that long.

 

[ashley]

more play action, please:

 

[ZoisKing]

Glad to get the win. So many variables this year that have stopped us from hitting the ground running. Don't feel worried about this season at all at this point.