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Like 15 or 16
We will see Jets can still come back as well
I think it was 14 or 15 with a win.
I think the Patriots were 14 before this week. With the win now to stay at 14 wins by both the 49ers (against Seattle) and Las Vegas (against Denver) is needed. In terms of potentially missing out on moving up, of the teams ahead of them that have already played, Dallas is about to lose (so nothing lost in terms of draft position there) while Minnesota won (again nothing lost since they were ahead to begin with). So even with a loss, the Patriots would have only gained draft position if either a) the Chargers win against KC and/or b) Denver beats Las Vegas. The win today affected depending on the remaining games to be played draft position between 12-16.
Thank you for breaking that down
Please don't use logic on here and allow the sky is falling crowd to enjoy themselves...
I gotta check as I don't think I've ever put anybody on ignore, it's been tempting many times...
One correction on the above, with a loss today the Patriots would have moved up 1 spot for sure because of Minnesota's win, so depending on the remaining games to be played the win today potentially affected draft positions 11-16.
I wanted them to lose but they have to be professional and try their best. We can root for them to tank, they can't actually do it. It was disappointing for fans but not stupid for the players.
Agree. Tanking is what loser organizations (like the Colts) do. It's shameful. That is not the kind of culture I want the Pats to have.You play to win the game. That being said, of course I wanted the Pats to lose. It's what is best for this long term future of this team. I think there are a lot of fans, because of the two decades of dominance, and because the GOAT and a dominant defense carried this team and it's terrible offense to the playoffs last year, who just have not wrapped their head around how dire the situation is. This team has the worst QB, WR, and TE group in the league and plenty of issues on defense. This is not a rebuild that is going to happen in a year or two. We desperately need an infusion of talent at many positions. The best chance to do that, without throwing money around and creating a cap situation, is to draft high in the draft.
Halfway through last season the Dolphins looked like one of the worst teams of all time. Fast forward a year and they were a playoff contender. The Patriots played a ton of young players this year and like the Dolphins they have a ton of cap space. Getting back in contention is not easy but I don't buy that it is necessarily a multi-year situation. There are a multitude of teams well over the cap and there should be more veteran talent available than usual. The Pats obviously need to land a QB but if they solve that issue there is no reason they cannot make substantial improvement quickly.
Thank you
They would have pick 12 if they lost instead of 15 so eh.
A lot of "ifs". But if the pats can find a competent QB, not top 15, just competent, and Edleman and Harris can give us 16 (or is it 17 next year?) regular season games and they add a couple of threats to the WR corp or TE group and they don't shed both Jackson and Gilmore I think this could be a double digit win team next year.
