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I am torn with this. How do we help the person with this attitude? It is as if it is his fault that he was selected in the first round, the frustration should be directed at BB/Josh/Nick.
Will he get the same stick if he was a 4/5th round pick?
I definitely blame Bill for Harry but there seems to be enough "read between the lines" stuff around Harry that makes it seem as if he is either, not working hard enough, has an attitude/toughness issue, or both.
 
Zo on 98.5 blowing him up. Zo really couldn't think any less of Harry.

EDIT: He said Harry completely limits what they do offensively. He claims Harry doesn't even look back for the ball and he doesn't even want to catch passes.
I heard that. It’s pretty telling coming from Zo, who generally doesn’t bad mouth the team or players as he is part of the teams broadcasting and does his weekly media stuff with Bill.

He’s been on Harry’s ass since training camp, talking about how Harry was always in and out getting treatment for every little bump and bruise letting other guys get his reps. Now in the games he lines up, asking the ref if he’s lined up correctly, and not really being part of the play. It seems he just doesn’t have that fire in him. They were advocating a trade to the Cards who were high on Harry before he was drafted. Try to get a 4th for him.
 

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Trade him and be done with it. He might even be successful with a different team but it doesn't seem like it will ever happen with us. Getting anything at this point with what he has shown would be a win.
 
Let us simply wait until we have a qb who can throw the ball and they we can judge. The offense, by the end of the season was a run dominant offense. That wasn't the case in all the games at the beginning of the year. Almost all of Edelman's catches and yards came in the first two games of the season, in the next four games he had catches of 2-3-2-1. Obviously either Cam was hurt, or the patriots decided that Cam couldn't be counted on to throw passes without a large chance of interception, and the best hope the Patriots had of winning was to run the ball. If your team doesn't want to pass, and your qb doesn't seem capable of passing, and is cut the day after the season ends, there is probably a good chance a good part of the blame lies with the qb. Once again, I am not saying that Harry is good or bad, just that you can't possibly judge with any certainty based on the complete **** show that was Cam Newton this year.
 
Trade him and be done with it. He might even be successful with a different team but it doesn't seem like it will ever happen with us. Getting anything at this point with what he has shown would be a win.
Do you think, they will be able get conditional 7th round pick for him ?
 
I think if Bill drafted Chubb over Sony and AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, Deebo Samuel, or even Mecole Hartman over Harry there is a solid chance Brady would still be here.

Pretty much. Bill left the cupboards bare for Brady. Which IMO is why he ultimately left. If Patriots had a super bowl contender you think brady would leave?

Once you saw the Patriots do nothing to address the receiver or tight end position in free agency is when Brady made his announcement.
 
The incredibly ugly and completely inept finebuen, at espn recommended a swap of Harry to the Jets for darnold.
 
Let us simply wait until we have a qb who can throw the ball and they we can judge. The offense, by the end of the season was a run dominant offense. That wasn't the case in all the games at the beginning of the year. Almost all of Edelman's catches and yards came in the first two games of the season, in the next four games he had catches of 2-3-2-1. Obviously either Cam was hurt, or the patriots decided that Cam couldn't be counted on to throw passes without a large chance of interception, and the best hope the Patriots had of winning was to run the ball. If your team doesn't want to pass, and your qb doesn't seem capable of passing, and is cut the day after the season ends, there is probably a good chance a good part of the blame lies with the qb. Once again, I am not saying that Harry is good or bad, just that you can't possibly judge with any certainty based on the complete **** show that was Cam Newton this year.
It does not matter how good the QB is, if a WR cannot get open, he not going to get many catches. A conditional 7th round pick is probably the best the Patriots could hope to get for Harry.
 
Let us simply wait until we have a qb who can throw the ball and they we can judge. The offense, by the end of the season was a run dominant offense. That wasn't the case in all the games at the beginning of the year. Almost all of Edelman's catches and yards came in the first two games of the season, in the next four games he had catches of 2-3-2-1. Obviously either Cam was hurt, or the patriots decided that Cam couldn't be counted on to throw passes without a large chance of interception, and the best hope the Patriots had of winning was to run the ball. If your team doesn't want to pass, and your qb doesn't seem capable of passing, and is cut the day after the season ends, there is probably a good chance a good part of the blame lies with the qb. Once again, I am not saying that Harry is good or bad, just that you can't possibly judge with any certainty based on the complete **** show that was Cam Newton this year.
He had a QB last season that just tossed 40 TDs in a completely new offensive scheme this season. He was still worthless.
 
You really can't make any excuses for Harry anymore. An undrafted FA more than doubled Harry's production so you can throw out "he had a bad QB" argument. Myers didn't use that excuse and was able to get 729 yards. And this is the second year Harry hasn't averaged over 10 yards a catch. That is pathetic in today's NFL and frankly in any era. Good WR's find a way to get the ball even with a horrible QB. The fact that an undrafted FA outperforming him couldn't light a fire under Harry's a** is a really bad sign nothing will ever motivate him.
 
You really can't make any excuses for Harry anymore. An undrafted FA more than doubled Harry's production so you can throw out "he had a bad QB" argument. Myers didn't use that excuse and was able to get 729 yards. And this is the second year Harry hasn't averaged over 10 yards a catch. That is pathetic in today's NFL and frankly in any era. Good WR's find a way to get the ball even with a horrible QB. The fact that an undrafted FA outperforming him couldn't light a fire under Harry's a** is a really bad sign nothing will ever motivate him.

He 'aced' his Foxboro workout. Thanks McDaniels . Maybe Belichick should stop listening to someone who spent a 1st rounder on Tim Tebow.

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