First Domino: Hall of Fame Game canceled.

[raduray]

The real concern is if this virus lingers? I mean, it's not just going to go away as it only needs one idiot to spread it.

No shortage of those, unfortunately.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

The real concern is if this virus lingers. I mean, it's not just going to go away as it only needs one idiot to spread it.

The vaccine is looking less likely as the scientists say COVID has evolved and is a complicated virus to create a vaccine for. COVID-19 will still be around in 2021. Idiots will still be around too. When does the cuncel season stop? 2021? Beyond? I understand the concern, COVID is highly contagious and will spread, and vulnerable people have to be protected, but it looks like a vaccine and "herd immunity" are 5 to 10 years away. When does life start even with COVID lurking? Do we wait for a vaccine and cancel entertainment between now and then?

 

[ctpatsfan77]

The vaccine is looking less likely as the scientists say COVID has evolved and is a complicated virus to create a vaccine for. COVID-19 will still be around in 2021. Idiots will still be around too. When does the cuncel season stop? 2021? Beyond? I understand the concern, COVID is highly contagious and will spread, and vulnerable people have to be protected, but it looks like a vaccine and "herd immunity" are 5 to 10 years away. When does life start even with COVID lurking? Do we wait for a vaccine and cancel entertainment between now and then?

One thing to understand about viruses: they don't "know" how to become more infectious or deadly. The mutations that occur are random, because the machinery that makes DNA isn't error-proof.

So COVID almost certainly has had some mutations, but that doesn't mean the virus is becoming more or less dangerous.

Also, the big issue with a vaccine is that nobody can say with certainty when it'll happen. But we do know that the speed of work on developing a vaccine for COVID is unprecedented, in part because the underlying technologies get better every year (it's like Moore's law for genetics).

 

[DarrylS]

Florida, California and Texas represent 25% of the leagues teams... with COVID-19 spiking in those states the whole NFL season seems less likely.. as does the NBA & MLB.. until there is a proven vaccine doubt there will be any of these sports (not sure about the plans for NHL).

 

[FCB02062]

It'll be ****ing hilarious when for 99% of the population, we find out the wuhan flu is like chicken pox and people start having chicken pox parties like we did back in the 70s and 80s...get it, feel crappy for a day or 2, recover a day or 2 and back to normal....and you're good to go

 

[sambam94]

and your "side" believes that wearing masks stops transmission and everyone wearing those silly cloth masks are making a meaningful difference. Social distancing is effective, but masks are like 1o% effective for stopping the virus particles.. Way too many idiots think that wearing a mask makes everyone safe.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

COVID cases on the rise! No vaccine!

how can any league keep it’s players safe?

any sports this year is probably a pipe dream,

 

[1960Pats]

The real concern is if this virus lingers. I mean, it's not just going to go away as it only needs one idiot to spread it.

Those idiots come in all shapes, sizes and colors, and also includes the people making the rules but ignoring them for themselves.

 

[BTTA]

and your "side" believes that wearing masks stops transmission and everyone wearing those silly cloth masks are making a meaningful difference. Social distancing is effective, but masks are like 1o% effective for stopping the virus particles.. Way too many idiots think that wearing a mask makes everyone safe.

It is far more than 10%
But, even 10% makes a huge difference in the pace of spread.

The sad thing about a losing all this sports, on every level, is that it could easily have been prevented. We could have done what the EU did, and be looking at a very low infection rate right now. But we made a different choice, collectively, one that included giving up much sports activity.

I'm by far more sad for the kids than for us adult fans.

 

[1960Pats]

COVID cases on the rise! No vaccine!

how can any league keep it’s players safe?

any sports this year is probably a pipe dream,

The pipe dream is thinking that there's going to be a vaccine.

How many players and celebrities have we heard of who've had the virus? Quite a few now. Have any of them needed any treatment? None have died.

At some point we also have to start looking at the truth behind the numbers being reported. The gloomers are having a field day now.

Maybe some accountability for the deaths that occurred under the watch of the local governments would be nice.

 

[Ivan]

They would be better off cancelling the season and doing huge community outreach. There is not going to be a real 2020 football season.

 

[fnordcircle]

and your "side" believes that wearing masks stops transmission and everyone wearing those silly cloth masks are making a meaningful difference. Social distancing is effective, but masks are like 1o% effective for stopping the virus particles.. Way too many idiots think that wearing a mask makes everyone safe.

Wow man...that's a really good point. The minor inconvenience of wearing a fabric on your face is totally not worth it unless it helps 100%.

Perfect and good man, they sure are enemies.

PS - your 10% helpful number is wrong but it wouldn't matter to me if it was 1% helpful. It wouldn't matter if it was 0.01% helpful. That's still plenty of enough reason to wear it when I go shopping because of, you know, the incredibly libcuck ideal of watching out for my fellow mankind.

 

[DarrylS]

and your "side" believes that wearing masks stops transmission and everyone wearing those silly cloth masks are making a meaningful difference. Social distancing is effective, but masks are like 1o% effective for stopping the virus particles.. Way too many idiots think that wearing a mask makes everyone safe.

So the answer is ignore the best strategies known for stopping this pandemic and play COVID roulette??

Social distancing is great, but it is not always possible.. those "silly masks" stop me from infecting other folks if I am positive, and for others they protect me from "infection" if the people I encounter are infectious... this is based on the best information available, and until other info is shown I will wear a mask in public.

None of what I believe is conjecture, it is based on the best info currently available..

 

[luuked]

and your "side" believes that wearing masks stops transmission and everyone wearing those silly cloth masks are making a meaningful difference. Social distancing is effective, but masks are like 1o% effective for stopping the virus particles.. Way too many idiots think that wearing a mask makes everyone safe.

Suggesting there are two sides to "wearing masks" is as silly as suggesting there are two sides to debates about the existence of gravity or whether the earth is flat.

You can just go through recent history and how the EU got their situation under control or if you think those are all evil Soros-based lies go back to how countries have dealt with epidemics through history and more specifically the Spanish flu.

It is all right there.

 

[luuked]

So the answer is ignore the best strategies known for stopping this pandemic and play COVID roulette??

Social distancing is great, but it is not always possible.. those "silly masks" stop me from infecting other folks if I am positive, and for others they protect me from "infection" if the people I encounter are infectious... this is based on the best information available, and until other info is shown I will wear a mask in public.

None of what I believe is conjecture, it is based on the best info currently available..

The death of expertise is one of the biggest issues facing humanity, especially in the US. The fact that some lunatics think their gut feeling deserves as much space in a debate as that of experts and the scientific community is ludicrous. There are no two sides to any of this.

But it makes kinda sense. Combine the entitlement that comes from growing up without facing real adversity with a dangerous lack of empathy for people outside your tribe and this is what you get.

Of course most will feel tilted that someone suggests they didn't experience real adversity because all they know is just their cohort (or tribe) and can therefore only compare themselves to that. And maybe that is also where the lack of empathy comes from. Which to me just shows the real value of diversity and learning about the viewpoints of people that would usually be outside our circle. Everything becomes so much more nuanced if you are exposed to different angles.

 

[BTTA]

The death of expertise is one of the biggest issues facing humanity, especially in the US. The fact that some lunatics think their gut feeling deserves as much space in a debate as that of experts and the scientific community is ludicrous. There are no two sides to any of this.

But it makes kinda sense. Combine the entitlement that comes from growing up without facing real adversity with a dangerous lack of empathy for people outside your tribe and this is what you get.

Of course most will feel tilted that someone suggests they didn't experience real adversity because all they know is just their cohort (or tribe) and can therefore only compare themselves to that. And maybe that is also where the lack of empathy comes from. Which to me just shows the real value of diversity and learning about the viewpoints of people that would usually be outside our circle. Everything becomes so much more nuanced if you are exposed to different angles.

You read The Death of Expertise by Tom Nichols? One of the best things I've read this year.

 

[BTTA]

Here's one of the primary reasons why sports are so curtailed for everyone:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...d88aa2-b7c3-11ea-a8da-693df3d7674a_story.html

 

[luuked]

You read The Death of Expertise by Tom Nichols? One of the best things I've read this year.

I haven't yet, but he has been one of the voices I added in the past year to my political twitter list. But yeah he is where my phrasing in the previous post came from. Can't wait to finish some other stuff I am reading and start his book.

I can't say I agree with all of his views but at the same time especially in times like right now he is a voice of reason that can't just be decried as part of the "liberal cabal". A flashback to times where you could actually disagree with people on viewpoints while still respecting the person.

 

[BTTA]

I haven't yet, but he has been one of the voices I added in the past year to my political twitter list. But yeah he is where my phrasing in the previous post came from. Can't wait to finish some other stuff I am reading and start his book.

I can't say I agree with all of his views but at the same time especially in times like right now he is a voice of reason that can't just be decried as part of the "liberal cabal". A flashback to times where you could actually disagree with people on viewpoints while still respecting the person.

The book, like so many, could be half as long, but still worth reading. He makes a connection between the reduction of college education requirements and the commonly held belief that everyone is able to understand complex issues, and that surfing the internet is actual research. That one had an impact on me.

 

[masterbouncer]

how is it working with the disinfectant vaccine in the US?
this blond toupee bearer seemed quite knowledgeable and trustworthy