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On another note Moss has never had a good game in the Dome.

The book on Moss used to be that Cover 2 gave him fits.

I suspect that's ancient history, but even if it isn't, the Pats have enough weapons that double-covering Moss will open up vulnerabilities elsewhere.

Stallworth and Welker are obviously both excellent run-after-catch guys, so throwing "where Freeney used to be" could be a productive tactic.

That and running right at him, as you also suggest.

Please note that the Pats have had a lot of success in the past putting a TE on Freeney. And Kyle Brady is one of the few TEs in the league who might actually be a blocking UPGRADE vs. Daniel Graham.
 
The book on Moss used to be that Cover 2 gave him fits.

I suspect that's ancient history, but even if it isn't, the Pats have enough weapons that double-covering Moss will open up vulnerabilities elsewhere.

Stallworth and Welker are obviously both excellent run-after-catch guys, so throwing "where Freeney used to be" could be a productive tactic.

That and running right at him, as you also suggest.

Please note that the Pats have had a lot of success in the past putting a TE on Freeney. And Kyle Brady is one of the few TEs in the league who might actually be a blocking UPGRADE vs. Daniel Graham.

Sounds like a good game plan. Except there is another DE on the team that is just as fast as Freeney. Who's your teams Right Tackle?
 
Except there is another DE on the team that is just as fast as Freeney.

Why are his numbers down this year? Scheme, or is there something a bit off in his play?
 
Let me generalize that last question -- what is it about the Colts' scheme or personnel that has them so low in sacks despite a focus on a couple of pass-rushing personnel? Tied for second to last in the league last year; much lower than other successful pass defenses this year. I realize the Colts don't face many passing attempts per game, but that doesn't seem like enough to explain it.
 
Why are his numbers down this year? Scheme, or is there something a bit off in his play?

Who Freeney? He's getting pressure just not the sacks. Also the QB's we have played have done so many 3 step drops there isn't enough time to get a sack. We've been dinked and dunked on all year. That's how the cover 2 works i guess.
 
Let me generalize that last question -- what is it about the Colts' scheme or personnel that has them so low in sacks despite a focus on a couple of pass-rushing personnel? Tied for second to last in the league last year; much lower than other successful pass defenses this year. I realize the Colts don't face many passing attempts per game, but that doesn't seem like enough to explain it.

I say it's the other offense doing quick hit passes.
 
I say it's the other offense doing quick hit passes.

That used to be the story with the Pats' defense too. But then somehow the actual sack numbers started going up. No one player ever seems to hit double digits (although Seymour and Vrabel both came close in 2003, as did Colvin last year), but somehow the overall totals wind up respectable.
 
When i say the Dome i meant RCA Dome. Dungy knows how to hold him in check. He did it in Tampa also.
How many times has Dungy actually had to plan to defend against Moss and what were Randy Moss's #'s? Oh yea, another point, now Dungy has to account for the fact that Tom Brady is throwing him the ball!
 
I love how every Monday after another Patriots blowout a Colts troll comes here to piss on the win.

You can always HOPE the 2007 Patriots turn out like your 2004 Dolts team, or your 2005 Dolts team, but I doubt it.

Keep the faith though if it helps you sleep better at night.

Welcome to the forum Blue18, you really bring a lot to the table, brilliant football analysis there ace, must have gone to the "I know you are, but what am I, your Mother wears combat boots" school of debating.

Yet another Colts clown, talking about us eating a bowl of crow, your fans wrote the friggin book on crow eating chief.
 
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The shoe really is on the other foot. The Patriots have the team/QB putting up sick numbers/stats and are the annointed ones. The Colts are the defending Super Bowl champs and are barely getting any love.

The Colts get a ton of grudging respect around these parts...
 
Maybe you couldn't read. I listed all the times we moved the ball on your sorry defense. Who cares if they're healthy this time we've schooled them before.
Like in 2003 and 2004 during the playoffs with everything on the line. 3 points moron, 3 points moron. Good luck even attempting to slow down THIS YEAR'S VERSION of the Patriots offense. No one has and the pathetic Colts defense won't either.
 
I've thought about the title premise of this post a number of times during the current run. This is likely why the last couple of blowouts' opponent point totals are frustrating to so many (despite the protestations that basically, any time you win that big, you're going to "give away" a bunch of points by playing soft.)

Playing soft and making the other team burn the clock by not giving up the big play has to be something a team can turn on and off. I do fear that the team that can go toe to toe with us, will see a D used to an easier way to win. Same personnel, less urgency. Sue me, it bothers me.

But here's some things I think:

1) The Pats in 2007 are a better offense than the Colts in 2004. I think this even though Maroney and Morris are both down. Get one or both back and it's no contest, as things look right now.

2) The Pats' 2007 D is not the abcess that Indy featured in 2003-2004. This is a much more balanced team. Indy 03-04 only had 1 way to beat you. NE in 2007 can shut down an opposing offense as well (now... I'd like to see a return to proving that, garbage time or no garbage time.) The Dallas and Miami games show there's work to be done - but that's a far cry from the sieve the Colts showed up with in their offense's heyday.

3) Tony Dungy is a fine coach. He's a guy that could be one of the "good coaches" in a league in any era, as in, one of the top 10 out of 32 head coaches, year in, year out. Recognizably good at what he does. No dummy. You get the picture. But ranking Bill Belichick isn't even about the other coaches currently active anymore. It's about is he better than Lombardi, Halas, or other historical greats. It's not about how he stands against the rest of the league... it's about whether he's the best ever. HUGE difference. When the talent looked stacked all towards the Colts and we beat them every year, it was about closing the gap with the better coach, preparation, etc. How can the Colts do that?

All that said, barring an aberrant game next week by either team, or a loss to jax tonight for the Colts, we're looking at the best in-season matchup the NFL's seen in years, two 8-0 teams going at it. Someone look up the records... I don't know when the last time was that this has happened.

Workhorse et al., just think about 20 years from now. Be happy you can tell your kids about that time the Colts were able to scrape out their 1 super bowl, and how "people forget, the Colts were always the main rival to the Pats in those years..." Don't worry about sounding like Red Sox fans up until 2004, with a "me too" claim to the Yankees history... or like the Generals compared to the Harlem Globetrotters.

This is a fantastic time to be a fan of either team. We're watching two of the greatest QBs to ever play the game. We're watching the Belichick era, which will be talked about for generations. We're watching a dynasty in an era that's not supposed to have dynasties, and another team that would be one, except that its "window" unfortunately coincides with Patriots Reign.

Sucks to be on the Colts' end of it, but relax. You're the champs! You've got your ring, singular, and should be damn proud of it, considering who stands in your way year after year.

I'm ready for a big plate of November humble pie... hey, we could even have some October humble pie first. Who knows?

But I think come February, we're carrying home another big silver football.

Hey, call it a hunch. :rocker:

PFnV
 
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