Penalties being considered for the Pats - UPDATED 1/1/2020

[patsbrasilpatriotas]

I agree I don't see the gain. I definitely can agree with that. I'm just posting info I found. However, if the tape shows them stealing signals then its going to be really difficult to defend themselves. I mean focusing on them.

I don't believe for a second deflategate was real. I also believe other teams are paranoid of us. However, I wouldn't be able to defend them if that tape shows something like that. Id still love the team and will root for them, but just my opinion. I know im risking dislikes, but I feel me lying would be worse.

Lets focus on what we know ...

Some guy call the Browns and ask them to tape the sidelines from the box for a Patriots TV show.

The monitor is right there, the guy is wearing a Patriots full gear, socks, shirt, hat, TB12 Love You patch, identifing himself as a Patriots employee and all. But the worst team in the NFL think they were filming them to steal signals to have and edge over a team that probably wants to lose?

That Dianna from ESPN wants to make a name for herself and its pushing this bogus claim.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Lets focus on what we know ...

Some guy call the Browns and ask them to tape the sidelines from the box for a Patriots TV show.

The monitor is right there, the guy is wearing a Patriots full gear, socks, shirt, hat, TB12 Love You patch, identifing himself as a Patriots employee and all. But the worst team in the NFL think they were filming them to steal signals to have and edge over a team that probably wants to lose?

That Dianna from ESPN wants to make a name for herself and its pushing this bogus claim.

I find it odd Browns would agree if it was something "suspicious". Thats definitely bizarre and makes me question the legitimatcy of the scandal. I also question why we would need to cheat against Bengals?

My only guess would be if its true is: They've done it more than once and Belichick got arrogant/careless with execution.

It absolutely pains me to type that too.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Lets focus on what we know ...

Some guy call the Browns and ask them to tape the sidelines from the box for a Patriots TV show.

The monitor is right there, the guy is wearing a Patriots full gear, socks, shirt, hat, TB12 Love You patch, identifing himself as a Patriots employee and all. But the worst team in the NFL think they were filming them to steal signals to have and edge over a team that probably wants to lose?

That Dianna from ESPN wants to make a name for herself and its pushing this bogus claim.

I think this is the same Dianna who was hooking up with the GM of the Redskins and the wife threatened her on Twitter

 

[RobertWeathers]

I agree I don't see the gain. I definitely can agree with that. I'm just posting info I found. However, if the tape shows them stealing signals then its going to be really difficult to defend themselves. I mean focusing on them.

I don't believe for a second deflategate was real. I also believe other teams are paranoid of us. However, I wouldn't be able to defend them if that tape shows something like that. Id still love the team and will root for them, but just my opinion. I know im risking dislikes, but I feel me lying would be worse.

Spygate was videotaping from an prohibited area. That was at least a quasi-legitimate violation even though it was blown incredibly out of proportion.

Deflategate was all about jealousy, paranoia, power, stubbornness, reckless journalism and a lack of understanding basic science. Another issue blown out of proportion.

There is a trend here, sadly.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Spygate was videotaping from an prohibited area. That was at least a quasi-legitimate violation even though it was blown incredibly out of proportion.

Deflategate was all about jealousy, paranoia, power, stubbornness, reckless journalism and a lack of understanding basic science. Another issue blown out of proportion.

There is a trend here, sadly.

Deflategate was extremely bogus. Absolutely was a witchhunt and looking back makes me ill. Spygate I was really young for. Was 14 and researched it before becoming a fan. Didn't really care.

This scandal might beat me down though. Being an anime/patriots fan always makes me a target. Was bullied in school for anime. However, learned to block the noise. However just sucks everything I support is crucified by people.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I find it odd Browns would agree if it was something "suspicious". Thats definitely bizarre and makes me question the legitimatcy of the scandal. I also question why we would need to cheat against Bengals?

My only guess would be if its true is: They've done it more than once and Belichick got arrogant/careless with execution.

It absolutely pains me to type that too.

BB says the football ops dept has nothing to do with the DYJ content creation dept.

I know BB is all powerful and aware if a mouse farts inside the locker room but I'm willing to believe him here

 

[RobertWeathers]

Deflategate was extremely bogus. Absolutely was a witchhunt and looking back makes me ill. Spygate I was really young for. Was 14 and researched it before becoming a fan. Didn't really care.

This scandal might beat me down though. Being an anime/patriots fan always makes me a target. Was bullied in school for anime. However, learned to block the noise. However just sucks everything I support is crucified by people.

Bullied over anime?

My advice as a parent of teenagers....

Fight back.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

This season ****ing sucks

 

[farn]

BB says the football ops dept has nothing to do with the DYJ content creation dept.

I know BB is all powerful and aware if a mouse farts inside the locker room but I'm willing to believe him here

I agree with everything you are saying, but when you have someone like BB who is all about the attention to detail... everyone in that building shoud be aware or MADE aware that any and all behavior is likely to be seen as sneaky be fans and media. They should be going out of their way - at all levels - to not seem like they are up to something.

 

[Froob]

BB says the football ops dept has nothing to do with the DYJ content creation dept.

I know BB is all powerful and aware if a mouse farts inside the locker room but I'm willing to believe him here

Shouldn’t have to have a role in this film. Somebody must have slipped up, I doubt Kraft is actually involved either.

Gotta be some sort of director of marketing that is going to be in trouble.

Unless of course they left last off season and Bill is picking up the slack in the meantime lol.

 

[Kontradiction]

I sincerely hope the idiot camera guy was relieved of his duty immediately. Could not possibly care less that it’s the holidays. **** him. Possibly his immediate supervisor as well if they didn’t drill into his head that it probably isn’t the best idea for an employee of this team to point a camera at the opposing sideline.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I agree with everything you are saying, but when you have someone like BB who is all about the attention to detail... everyone in that building shoud be aware or MADE aware that any and all behavior is likely to be seen as sneaky be fans and media. They should be going out of their way - at all levels - to not seem like they are up to something.

The production folks were wearing NEP garb. They asked for permission. I understand your point but we are talking about non-football people here

 

[venecol]

Has the whereabouts of Ernie Adams been determined by triangulation during the hours in question?

it has been reported that a man disguised in a Colonel Sanders outfit was spotted splicing wires near the CBS trucks in the belly of the stadium at approximately the same time Operation Do Your Job was unraveling

And why was Patriots 2 flying circular patterns over Cleveland stadium shortly after kickoff

No way, if Ernie was involved, the tape would have self destructed.

 

[Uncle Rico]

This season ****ing sucks

When I woke up this morning and checked this site, the top threads were
- Filming in Cinci
- "Not liking what I'm hearing about the locker room"
- Belichick could return to Giants
- Mahomes girlfriend had to be moved
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On the plus side, no AB threads, but, geez.

 

[blackglass3]

I think its going to depend on whats on the tape. If nothing damning is on there I think we will be fined but not receive a massive penalty. However if the tape shows them fixated on signals then its going to be severe. Also, I found this.

Bombshell ESPN report says Patriots' 'Spygate' scandal was way worse than people realized

Eerie enough their defense is same as back then with people disguised as "Kraft Productions". Not saying it means guilt, but hoping for best.

This BS article is a rehash of the crap report by Van Natta and Wickersham in 07. The entire article was written to reignite the Spygate flames when Brady was told he can play in 2015.

 

[farn]

The production folks were wearing NEP garb. They asked for permission. I understand your point but we are talking about non-football people here

My point is still valid : everyone wearing NEP garb should be told that it's important for the team to avoid even the appearance of sneaky behavior.

 

[sb1]

Trollin

 

[RobertWeathers]

My point is still valid : everyone wearing NEP garb should be told that it's important for the team to avoid even the appearance of sneaky behavior.

Sure but in this instance they weren't being sneaky.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

This BS article is a rehash of the crap report by Van Natta and Wickersham in 07. The entire article was written to reignite the Spygate flames when Brady was told he can play in 2015.

I hope you and 99% of users here are right.

I really hope nothing comes of this, but I just know if that tape is damning we won't be able to explain ourselves out of it. Honestly id rather lose out.

 

[PittPatriot]

Sure but in this instance they weren't being sneaky.

Does it matter? The story is all over the place and it makes the patriots look bad.
We as fans can split the nuances but in the end, a story becomes reality if it’s repeated enough.
For those of us who do not live in New England, that is the reality.
They should’ve made 1000% sure nothing like this could ever come up.