Game Day Thread Official Game Day Thread- Giants @ Pats

[Tony2046]

There is a much simpler way : win the SB. Flukey - at times - but the 2007 team had ample chance to flexing their offensive strength. All game long. They didn’t.

Injuries suck for any team even the greatest.

 

[mosslost]

...or go 11-5 and win a Super Bowl.

Close the deal.

2007 Pats better than the 2018 Pats

 

[mosslost]

@mosslost : you might hit 10k tonight !

GDT participation can help

 

[farn]

Injuries suck for any team even the greatest.

Current mini-dynasty : best team might be 2015 (the only one NOT to make the SB) until injuries ravaged them...

 

[Tony2046]

Winning the SB does not make you the better team. See the 2011 Ginats, 2007 Giants.. Or even the 2001 Pats

Makes you Super Bowl champions though. Or no?

 

[RobertWeathers]

2007 Pats better than the 2018 Pats

I don't want to clog up this thread with that debate.

I'll just say this: Over the last 9 games, they were not close to being what they were during the first 10.

 

[mosslost]

He might be back. I would love that if he was.

Wow Kraft just said Gronk could still be back LOL

 

[mosslost]

Makes you Super Bowl champions though. Or no?

yes it does. But not best football team that year or across years...

Example 87 Celtics MUCH better than 76 Celtics, or the mid 90s Rockets.

EDIT: Point is winning the championship does not necessarily you are the better team. Or better across other seasons.

@TommyD4207 demonstrably. I'm not even sure how you could defend disagreeing

 

[mosslost]

I don't want to clog up this thread with that debate.

I'll just say this: Over the last 9 games, they were not close to being what they were during the first 10.

fair enough

 

[Keyser Söze]

 

[farn]

Winning the SB does not make you the better team. See the 2011 Ginats, 2007 Giants.. Or even the 2001 Pats

I disagree. If you do all your homework during the semester, yet fail the final exam - no one is going to say you did great.

I understand your position and agree, to extent, with your logic. However, I see the goal as Winning the SB. So, if the draft, training camp, 16 games, and the playoffs aren’t “in order to win the SB”, then what is it for ? To brag that “we were REALLY the best team, but”. BUT. But you didn’t achieve the goal. I agree that the 2007 was exceptional, but I cannot accept that a non-SB champ can ever be considered #1. You couldn’t even get the ONE goal accomplished. It’s the ONLY thing. Win the SB. If you are a bad team, built TOWARD the SB. Nothing else matters.

 

[Zuma]

" I think that's a good academic argument" ...What? Time to lay off the Haffenreffer

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I don't want to clog up this thread with that debate.

Given what clogs a typical GDT, maybe such a debate would be a good thing.

 

[mosslost]

I was really surprised how nonchalant he said that. He is old though

 

[Tony2046]

I don't want to clog up this thread with that debate.

I'll just say this: Over the last 9 games, they were not close to being what they were during the first 10.

OMG

The human Patriot's wikipedia won't lay down some facts on that dude?

I'm lost. We're all lost.

 

[patfanken]

BTW- Just checked the weather forecast and it looks like the fans have dodged a bullet. At its worst (11pm) the hourly forecast is only 50% rain, and the winds around 15MPH- Not bad for the players or the fans

 

[mosslost]

I disagree. If you do all your homework during the semester, yet fail the final exam - no one is going to say you did great.

I understand your position and agree, to extent, with your logic. However, I see the goal as Winning the SB. So, if the draft, training camp, 16 games, and the playoffs aren’t “in order to win the SB”, then what is it for ? To brag that “we were REALLY the best team, but”. BUT. But you didn’t achieve the goal. I agree that the 2007 was exceptional, but I cannot accept that a non-SB champ can ever be considered #1. You couldn’t even get the ONE goal accomplished. It’s the ONLY thing. Win the SB. If you are a bad team, built TOWARD the SB. Nothing else matters.

It's actually just a fact to be perfectly honest with you. (that winning the SB does not prove you are the best team in the league. In actuality you are demonstrably wrong on this.)

But I don't want to debate this issue.

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

Winning the SB does not make you the better team. See the 2011 Ginats, 2007 Giants.. Or even the 2001 Pats

It's the only thing that matters... You don't want to be the regular season winner.. no one remembers you

 

[Tony2046]

yes it does. But not best football team that year or across years...

Example 87 Celtics MUCH better than 76 Celtics, or the mid 90s Rockets.

EDIT: Point is winning the championship does not necessarily you are the better team. Or better across other seasons.

Just an ABsurd argument.

 

[mosslost]

Just an ABsurd argument.

totally wrong Tony. In fact it is demonstrably wrong with simple logic and facts

Edit: and I mean very simple logic and facts

EDIT: @DaBruinz Demonstrably wrong