Ex-NFL RB Cierre Wood is a POS who should die 1000 fiery deaths

[jmt57]

While we as fans of the Patriots know all too well the pitfalls of jumping to conclusions, I am going to be a hypocrite and do just that.

I saw this story a couple days ago, and resisted starting a thread at that time - because it was so revolting. At some time soon this thread will surely need to be moved off the main forum, but since it involves a person who for a very short period of time was under contract with the New England Patriots, for the moment I will post this here. The details are disgusting to all of humanity.

Just a heads up before a fan of another team gives you grief about a so-called former Patriot (two games in 2013, zero stats).

Ex-NFL player, girlfriend indicted in child death case.

 

[Wheelman]

Nothing to see here. Adrian Peterson admits he still beats his child last season and nobody blinked an eye. It's cool to abuse and kill children. The corrupt 32 are ok with it as long as the player gives production. And we as football fans are ok with it because we continue to put our $$$$ into the greedy owners pockets.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Would love to hear the arguments against capital punishment on this one. Two bullets for less than a dollar will do the trick. Yes, I’d pull the trigger myself.

 

[jah]

Would love to hear the arguments against capital punishment on this one. Two bullets for less than a dollar will do the trick. Yes, I’d pull the trigger myself.

I think death would be too kind for him.

 

[tuckeverlasting]

when i first saw this i thought tyreek hill. he just looks and sounds like a serial abuser.

 

[Ring 6]

While we as fans of the Patriots know all too well the pitfalls of jumping to conclusions, I am going to be a hypocrite and do just that.

I saw this story a couple days ago, and resisted starting a thread at that time - because it was so revolting. At some time soon this thread will surely need to be moved off the main forum, but since it involves a person who for a very short period of time was under contract with the New England Patriots, for the moment I will post this here. The details are disgusting to all of humanity.

Just a heads up before a fan of another team gives you grief about a so-called former Patriot (two games in 2013, zero stats).

Ex-NFL player, girlfriend indicted in child death case.

Why post this???

 

[cmasspatsfan]

I'm surprised the headline didnt say former New England Patriot.

 

[fnordcircle]

Would love to hear the arguments against capital punishment on this one. Two bullets for less than a dollar will do the trick. Yes, I’d pull the trigger myself.

The same argument as always - innocent people have been put to death. We don't know all the facts and rush to judgements and calls for unilateral punishment are not the hallmarks of a society that is trying to prioritize avoiding railroading innocent people over its desire for catharsis in the form of watching convicts roast in the electric chair.

If you support the death penalty, as I used to do, you're tacitly stating that you're fine with a few innocent people getting burned on the pyre as long as society gets to rest easy having gotten its pound of flesh.

 

[DarrylS]

Child Welfare cases can be confusing and based on the info provided in this newspaper article, what is not said:

Is there a history of concern by Child Welfare Officials with the child??
Has Ciere Wood had allegations that he mistreated children in the past??
Do not want to blame the mother, but why would she leave her 5 year old daughter with a man she had only be involved with for less than two weeks?? Not blaming mom, but is this the sort of judgement that she uses??
Does mother have previous allegations of child maltreatment??
Were both parties involved in the actual abuse??
Are there any other adults involved??

No effort to minimize this horrific case, without regard not reporting a case like this (omission) is as terrible as inflicting the actual abuse (commission) ... these cases are horrible and very difficult to sort out..

I am a retired from State Child Welfare systems and have a pretty good idea of the dynamics of cases such as this.. but from the information provided there is not enough info to make any sort of judgement...

 

[luuked]

Would love to hear the arguments against capital punishment on this one. Two bullets for less than a dollar will do the trick. Yes, I’d pull the trigger myself.

Because in this case you should be fine with anything that makes it close to impossible to have false positives. Even if that increases the amount of false negatives or costs.

 

[Clonamery]

I am a retired from State Child Welfare systems and have a pretty good idea of the dynamics of cases such as this.. but from the information provided there is not enough info to make any sort of judgement...

What about a rush to judgement?

 

[Kontradiction]

The saddest part about this, and I’m sure everyone knows some who this applies to, is that there are legitimately good people out there who cannot birth their own children. They would love nothing more than to have one of their own but they can’t. And you have pieces of trash out there who, allegedly, do this to a child.

I used to be hard on the death penalty train. A few years ago, I’d say that I’d love for this piece of **** to be put out of his misery. But I no longer am. Too many cases out there where innocent people have been accused and indicted of crimes they didn’t actually commit. Now I’m just of the opinion that it should be put to use if you have indisputable evidence of the act (caught on camera, for example).

 

[1960Pats]

The saddest part about this, and I’m sure everyone knows some who this applies to, is that there are legitimately good people out there who cannot birth their own children. They would love nothing more than to have one of their own but they can’t. And you have pieces of trash out there who, allegedly, do this to a child.

I used to be hard on the death penalty train. A few years ago, I’d say that I’d love for this piece of **** to be put out of his misery. But I no longer am. Too many cases out there where innocent people have been accused and indicted of crimes they didn’t actually commit. Now I’m just of the opinion that it should be put to use if you have indisputable evidence of the act (caught on camera, for example).

There are some cases that are clear cut death penalty cases. The Boston Marathon bombing is one of those, but there are others.

I also think that the death penalty is a deterrent. I believe this because many murderers give up the location of their victims in exchange for a life sentence instead of death.

I think Texas is on the right track...

 

[woolster22]

A lot of people mentioning innocent people being convicted. Instead of that being the reason not to punish folks, maybe it should be the reason to start holding people accountable for massive failures, rather than allowing things to be swept under the rug and pretend people arent awful at their jobs.

Its all a sympom of previous generations deference to authority, based on the assumtion the authority figure is acting in a competent-let alone satisfactory manner. Judges, cops, politicians, refs, whatever. They are all merely people. They make mistakes, act maliciously, etc. But because of the societal deference, they rarely have to own their mistakes, let alone be held accountable.

Im paying my lawyer right now because a judge issued an order DOR can't use (all involved have literally said she should have known better), while the ex's employer takes child support out of her check (seen the stubs) and then doesn't issue payment (they have 3 days, legally) for weeks.

And dcf/other state equivalents are useless. If you dont kiss their ass and jump through their insane hoops, you are enemy number one, regardless of the mountain of evidence to support your claims, and criminal/probate court rulings in your favor. But, if you actually did whatever is in question, you likely "play ball," and nothing happens, because your "cooperating." But if you tell them one specific worker who continues to make threats during visits (multiple parties witness to the last ones) is no longer allowed on the property/visit kids at daycare, they decide to close the case because "non cooperation." Its all a massive ****ing joke.

Dcf loves to harass people who shouldnt be bothered while talking up scum bags who have no right being near children. To top it off, (at least in late 17 when my experience started) they are in contempt of federal court for the conditions children live in who are under their care. So on top of being incompetent, their hypocrites. Just another example of Massachusetts not holding itself to the standards of Joe Carpenter. Though Jose Carpentero gets a bailiff escort out the backdoor to avoid ice detention when facing dui and trafficing charges.

It'd be nice to see the judges that ordered the Purdue Pharma marketing evidence sealed for the last 12 years held accountable for the thousands of deaths and millions of addicts they literally enabled Purdue to create, and monetize, but that will never happen. Instead, the courts see they are implicit, so junkies can literally use their habit as a hardship to get out of child support obligations (not making this up), citing the cost of methodone (its just ****ing heroin, it is in no manner a medicine) for their hardship. Best part of all that is most professionals agree that the best treatment is getting rhrough withdrawals, not providing another substance to push them off and kick facing the issue head on down the road.

 

[Kontradiction]

There are some cases that are clear cut death penalty cases. The Boston Marathon bombing is one of those, but there are others.

I also think that the death penalty is a deterrent. I believe this because many murderers give up the location of their victims in exchange for a life sentence instead of death.

I think Texas is on the right track...

I’m fine with using it when it’s needed. That’s just situationally, and in cases when there is absolutely no doubt.

 

[Soliel]

Garbage. Someone call waste management goons

 

[RobertWeathers]

Would love to hear the arguments against capital punishment on this one. Two bullets for less than a dollar will do the trick. Yes, I’d pull the trigger myself.

Bullets cost ~.22-.25$

They are too valuable for this slime.

Throw him off a cliff and let the squirrels eat him

 

[PatriotsReign]

Why post this???

What’s your issue with posting it?

 

[Triumph]

Poor kid died a cruel death.

 

[Captain Cliche]

I was a single parent (father) for 14 years.
The system seems pretty slow to react to these type of situations IMHO.
We also have a pretty poor system for housing these kids compared to other countries.

The other thing I can tell you is the system is geared to "getting the father to pay".
I had to file and explain I had full custody a few times when the state came after me for money.

Counselling (I paid for) was always geared towards reuniting the mother with the daughter, who admitted to having a crack problem.
The whole system is geared to go after the guy and protect the mother.