Vegas 2019 O/U win totals

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TEAM WIN TOTAL
Patriots 11
Chiefs 10.5
Rams 10.5
Saints 10.5
Chargers 10
Bears 9.5
Colts 9.5
Eagles 9.5
Browns 9
Packers 9
Steelers 9
Vikings 9
Cowboys 8.5
Falcons 8.5
Ravens 8.5
Seahawks 8.5
Texans 8.5
Titans 8.5
49ers 8
Jaguars 8
Panthers 8
Broncos 7
Jets 7
Lions 7
Bengals 6
Bills 6
Buccaneers 6
Giants 6
Raiders 6
Redskins 6
Cardinals 5
Dolphins 5

 

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My initial thoughts on all, dependent upon the draft and the rest of FA.

Patriots 11 over
Chiefs 10.5 over
Rams 10.5 under
Saints 10.5 under
Chargers 10 under
Bears 9.5 over
Colts 9.5 over
Eagles 9.5 under
Browns 9 under
Packers 9 over
Steelers 9 under
Vikings 9 over
Cowboys 8.5 over
Falcons 8.5 under
Ravens 8.5 over
Seahawks 8.5 over
Texans 8.5 over
Titans 8.5 under
49ers 8 over
Jaguars 8 under
Panthers 8 under
Broncos 7 under
Jets 7 under
Lions 7 under
Bengals 6 push
Bills 6 over
Buccaneers 6 over
Giants 6 under
Raiders 6 over
Redskins 6 over
Cardinals 5 push
Dolphins 5 push

 

[VectorPrime]

Easy over. We would have been over this past year if not for the Miami bullsh.it.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Bears < 9.5
Saints < 10.5
Rams < 10.5
Browns < 9
Vikings < 9
Jaguars < 8
Titans < 8.5

Packers > 9
Seahawks > 8.5
49ers > 8
Texans > 8.5

 

[mgteich]

As we all know, last year was the first time we were as low as 11 in the past TEN seasons. Folks criticize the bettors and the media for overestimating the patriots. That is obviously nonsense.

Folks point to our holes and say that we should estimated as having fewer wins. But then, those current issues are the reasons why the projection is to repeat the lowest number of wins in a decade (11).

 

[PatriotsReign]

Bears < 9.5
Saints < 10.5
Rams < 10.5
Browns < 9
Vikings < 9
Jaguars < 8
Titans < 8.5

Packers > 9
Seahawks > 8.5
49ers > 8
Texans > 8.5

Don’t you wonder if Garrapolo can make it through a season without being hurt? I do.

 

[BobDigital]

best bets are.

Bears 9.5 over, Texans 8.5 over, Seahawks 8.5 over, Eagles 9.5 over

I like the NFC mid teams. I expect them to take a step forward with NO and LAR taking steps back from last year. As for the Texans 8.5 it seems safe to me. They are in a weak division and have a good D. It is all about if Watson can stay healthy enough to get to 9 wins.

 

[SBLIII]

we have always been in that range. Mostly from 10.5 to 11.5.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

best bets are.

Bears 9.5 over, Texans 8.5 over, Seahawks 8.5 over, Eagles 9.5 over

I like the NFC mid teams. I expect them to take a step forward with NO and LAR taking steps back from last year. As for the Texans 8.5 it seems safe to me. They are in a weak division and have a good D. It is all about if Watson can stay healthy enough to get to 9 wins.

Bears are not that good. At the end of 2019 they’ll be looking for a franchise QB again. Defense good not elite. Much tougher schedule in 2019.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Can’t believe I missed the easiest one on here:

Ravens < 8.5

There’s no way Lamar Jackson leads that team to a winning record. Not after how exposed he was last year in the playoffs. That team will likely be draft a new QB next year. Jackson is not a starting caliber QB.

 

[SBLIII]

for comparison since 2010 it has been:

9.5
11.5
12
11
10.5
10.5
10.5
12.5
11
11

pretty consistent.

 

[luuked]

They are in a weak division and have a good D. It is all about if Watson can stay healthy enough to get to 9 wins.

Are you sure the division is weak though ?

The Colts looked like a good team, the Titans at least solid and Jacksonville eliminated the Bortles factor. I don't know about that one.

 

[SBLIII]

best bets are.

Bears 9.5 over, Texans 8.5 over, Seahawks 8.5 over, Eagles 9.5 over

I like the NFC mid teams. I expect them to take a step forward with NO and LAR taking steps back from last year. As for the Texans 8.5 it seems safe to me. They are in a weak division and have a good D. It is all about if Watson can stay healthy enough to get to 9 wins.

Texans = toughest schedule in football and BOB

= 8-8 at best imo

 

[1960Pats]

for comparison since 2010 it has been:

9.5
11.5
12
11
10.5
10.5
10.5
12.5
11
11

pretty consistent.

Actual Wins
9.5 - 14 (over)
11.5 - 13 (over)
12 - 12 (push)
11 - 12 (over)
10.5 - 12 (over)
10.5 - 12 (over)
10.5 - 14 (over)
12.5 - 13 (over)
11 - 11 (push)
11 - ???

That's also pretty consistent. Could this be the year of the under? I wouldn't bet on it.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Id take the over, i feel we’ve found our new identity and should resume with the 12+ win streak we had till last year. If Edelman misses 4 or more games again that could change.

 

[fourhour]

I'm not concerned with the win count as long as the Pats get the last win!

 

[Simpelton]

My initial thoughts on all, dependent upon the draft and the rest of FA.
Steelers 9 under

Kinda disagree with this. They've had a toxic situation in their locker room over the last couple years but that actually seems to have sorted itself out with the malcontents having left town. The remaining team, though weaker on paper, has a much better chance of actually all pulling in the same direction this year. They still have a good enough offense to win 10+ games. Much less sanguine about their defense, especially their secondary, but unless Roethlisberger falls off a cliff they're going to be in the running for a playoff spot.

 

[Simpelton]

Don’t you wonder if Garrapolo can make it through a season without being hurt? I do.

I do too, but IMHO comes down to the offensive line getting better and Garoppolo staying in the pocket and not trying to scramble for extra yards. I mean it's good that he's willing to do it but both of the times he's been hurt has been on scrambles that probably didn't need to happen except that Jimmy G got greedy and tried to extend a play at the cost of his health. Learn to get rid of the ball and get 'em next down Jimmy. You'll last longer.

Are you sure the division is weak though ?

The Colts looked like a good team, the Titans at least solid and Jacksonville eliminated the Bortles factor. I don't know about that one.

it's a division full of average teams. Depending on your perspective that's a weak division, but it's actually a division that anyone could come out of.

 

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Kinda disagree with this. They've had a toxic situation in their locker room over the last couple years but that actually seems to have sorted itself out with the malcontents having left town. The remaining team, though weaker on paper, has a much better chance of actually all pulling in the same direction this year. They still have a good enough offense to win 10+ games. Much less sanguine about their defense, especially their secondary, but unless Roethlisberger falls off a cliff they're going to be in the running for a playoff spot.

We'll see how they draft. If they can sure up LB, CB and add an edge rusher they could win ten. As the team is currently constituted and the editions in the division plus their playing the NFCW, AFCE and drawing Indy and the Chargers that's a tough schedule.

Let's say they split with the division for 3-3.

Patriots, Chargers and 49ers on the road along with Seahawks, Rams and Colts at home. Let's say they split those which is a tall tale but they could also sweep the Bengals and go 4-2 in the division. That's 6-6.

That still leaves @NYJ, @AZ, Miami and Buffalo. They need to sweep those to get to 10 wins. Doable? Yep. The Steelers are also prone to some head scratchers where they don't show up especially early in the season. I could see them starting with one of those 4 games and laying an egg.

 

[Simpelton]

They're also going to get some upsets, it happens to everyone. Not every fight is won by the team with the advantage, if it were we'd have 2 more wins last year. You can count on roughly 1 of your "sure wins" to slip away from you in any given year, and rely on an upset or two to balance it out, it happens every year.

This is why i feel like they have a better position than they did last year, because without the toxic personalities messing up their team chemistry they have a better chance to generate upsets this year than they did last year. I think the Steelers are a decent bet to rebound next year, especially if they can rebuild their offence around Juju Smith-Schuster without the walking distraction that is Antonio Brown muddying the waters.

Wouldn't be the first time, by any means, that a team shed controversial divalike star level talent and then improved its record.