Official Free Agency 2018

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Who will sit on the bench for a year behind who?

Waddle or Fleming

 

[PatsFan2]

When are the Patriots going to realize that they are missing a left offensive tackle?

What?? you live under a rock dude? We have Bruce Armstrong and Pat Harlow coming back from IR. Oh wait wrong era.

 

[Joey007]

Brown heading to Cincy.

Was never his biggest proponent anyway. Hopefully we sign a LB here then draft one. We’ll be in better shape then.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

draft 3 linebackers in this next draft.

That seems excessive, don't you think? Hightower and Van Noy are locked in as starters. If we return Flowers as you suggest in your post, then he's depth in subpackages. So where would these three new linebackers even play? I assume then that you would cut Roberts. The depth chart is starting to look awfully cluttered in this scenario.

I'd love to draft a linebacker, and maybe double-dip late, but three is just an overreaction.

 

[holyredeemer]

That seems excessive, don't you think? Hightower and Van Noy are locked in as starters. If we return Flowers as you suggest in your post, then he's depth in subpackages. So where would these three new linebackers even play? I assume then that you would cut Roberts. The depth chart is starting to look awfully cluttered in this scenario.

I'd love to draft a linebacker, and maybe double-dip late, but three is just an overreaction.

If we draft 1 LB, you’ll get your wish. We just happened to pick up 2 of them last year and not this year. Langi & Rivers, or did you give up on them already?

 

[WaterfallJumper]

If we draft 1 LB, you’ll get your wish. We just happened to pick up 2 of them last year and not this year. Langi & Rivers, or did you give up on them already?

Haven't given up on them at all, but I do think we could add a linebacker. Two is probably too many, but three is utterly fantastical. Where would they play?

 

[Jimke]

Waddle or Fleming

Not an ideal solution but the Patriots better re-sign them soon before their price tag balloons out of sight.

 

[Jimke]

Not an ideal solution but the Patriots better re-sign them soon before their price tag balloons out of sight.

 

[jah]

That seems excessive, don't you think? Hightower and Van Noy are locked in as starters. If we return Flowers as you suggest in your post, then he's depth in subpackages. So where would these three new linebackers even play? I assume then that you would cut Roberts. The depth chart is starting to look awfully cluttered in this scenario.

I'd love to draft a linebacker, and maybe double-dip late, but three is just an overreaction.

Haven't given up on them at all, but I do think we could add a linebacker. Two is probably too many, but three is utterly fantastical. Where would they play?

Seems kind of wishful to assume all of our rookies will play. You draft for the future. Drafting to fill immediate holes is generally only feasible in the first round or 2 and even that's shaky.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

Draft sign any player that would keep Jordan Richards off the field on defense

 

[50-yard-line]

If we draft 1 LB, you’ll get your wish. We just happened to pick up 2 of them last year and not this year. Langi & Rivers, or did you give up on them already?

I'm pretty high on Langi - kid never stops running. I hope he's okay after the miserable luck from last year.

In pre-season, Rivers reminded me of...Trey Flowers. Hope he didn't fall too far behind.

It's funny how players on IR or PS seem to get cast into oblivion as the next batch of shiny new toys shows up. The Pats have SIX guys who potentially step up big this year:

Riley McCarron looks like he might be a pretty dang good slot receiver.

Ryan Lewis is a guy they paid a lot to stay on THEIR PS when other teams wanted him. Promising 6' CB.

Andrew Jelks would have been a high pick. He's 6'6" and incredibly capable and never stops working by every report. His knees might doom him to never having an NFL career, but he's still in there, fighting, and BB speaks highly of him. Like Cannon, he's a guy who faced extreme injury-illness adversity and kept on plugging. I'm pulling for him.

Tony Garcia is another possibility here, but maybe not this year. Heck, maybe not ever, depending on why he had the blood clots. But they were very high on him, and many here were thrilled when the Pats drafted him.

Rivers and Langi, I mentioned elsewhere.

Every year, players come out of nowhere to become contributors, and other players (this year, Butler and Branch) fall way short of expectations. The Patriots have a ton of prospects in the pipeline already.

 

[oceansizer]

That seems excessive, don't you think? Hightower and Van Noy are locked in as starters. If we return Flowers as you suggest in your post, then he's depth in subpackages. So where would these three new linebackers even play? I assume then that you would cut Roberts. The depth chart is starting to look awfully cluttered in this scenario.

I'd love to draft a linebacker, and maybe double-dip late, but three is just an overreaction.

We have got our needs in the draft.That is for sure. LT, future CB prospect, LB and maybe a powerful RB. Unfortunately this draft is poor in LT so I think we should take someone in first round. BB has not tendency to draft LB in the first round ( Mayo is the only exception comes to mind as we taking about recent years ). I will not be surprised if we trade a first round for some extra picks.

 

[PatsFan2]

I'm pretty high on Langi - kid never stops running. I hope he's okay after the miserable luck from last year.

In pre-season, Rivers reminded me of...Trey Flowers. Hope he didn't fall too far behind.

It's funny how players on IR or PS seem to get cast into oblivion as the next batch of shiny new toys shows up. The Pats have SIX guys who potentially step up big this year:

Riley McCarron looks like he might be a pretty dang good slot receiver.

Ryan Lewis is a guy they paid a lot to stay on THEIR PS when other teams wanted him. Promising 6' CB.

Andrew Jelks would have been a high pick. He's 6'6" and incredibly capable and never stops working by every report. His knees might doom him to never having an NFL career, but he's still in there, fighting, and BB speaks highly of him. Like Cannon, he's a guy who faced extreme injury-illness adversity and kept on plugging. I'm pulling for him.

Tony Garcia is another possibility here, but maybe not this year. Heck, maybe not ever, depending on why he had the blood clots. But they were very high on him, and many here were thrilled when the Pats drafted him.

Rivers and Langi, I mentioned elsewhere.

Every year, players come out of nowhere to become contributors, and other players (this year, Butler and Branch) fall way short of expectations. The Patriots have a ton of prospects in the pipeline already.

Not trolling you 50 but BB Rookies don't have good track record coming off injuries. Sad we never saw Rivers play Jelks knees are a mash unit. Tony Garcia needs to put a Ton of weight back on. That's two Third Rounders who are definite question marks going into year two. With our current situations on O and D we could be Drafting those Identical positions again... the more the merrier I guess.

 

[holyredeemer]

Haven't given up on them at all, but I do think we could add a linebacker. Two is probably too many, but three is utterly fantastical. Where would they play?

I’m sorry Reamer. I meant that for Chris. Just trying to remind the guy that some help is on the way.

 

[mgteich]

Not an ideal solution but the Patriots better re-sign them soon before their price tag balloons out of sight.

hmm

I guess we can believe that all offers and interest in Waddle and Fleming are a huge secret. There has been ZERO rumors lately of any interest. If there was interest, I think that we would have heard.

 

[50-yard-line]

Not trolling you 50 but BB Rookies don't have good track record coming off injuries. Sad we never saw Rivers play Jelks knees are a mash unit. Tony Garcia needs to put a Ton of weight back on. That's two Third Rounders who are definite question marks going into year two. With our current situations on O and D we could be Drafting those Identical positions again... the more the merrier I guess.

No, I agree...but then, Rivers reminds me of Flowers (IR after 1 game in 2015).

Jelks and Garcia...Cannon. Jelks more than Garcia. Both Jelks and Cannon would have been out of reach for the Pats other than injury/illness.

The knees re a huge question, but ACL surgeries ain't what they used to be, and an OL seems like a place where the lingering effect of such an injury aren't as critical as, say, a CB or an RB.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Very little cap room to work with at this point:

-$5 million for rookies
-$5 million emergency funds
-$5 million leftover

They might also be looking at re-doing Gronk’s contract so that’s going to eat up more cap space.

 

[PatsFan2]

No, I agree...but then, Rivers reminds me of Flowers (IR after 1 game in 2015).

Jelks and Garcia...Cannon. Jelks more than Garcia. Both Jelks and Cannon would have been out of reach for the Pats other than injury/illness.

The knees re a huge question, but ACL surgeries ain't what they used to be, and an OL seems like a place where the lingering effect of such an injury aren't as critical as, say, a CB or an RB.

I liked the Rivers pick but thought he was a little light in the pants as a Rookie and needed to add more weight for the NFL Game. I hope the Redshirt year made him do just that.

 

[mgteich]

Very little cap room to work with at this point:

-$5 million for rookies
-$5 million emergency funds
-$5 million leftover

They might also be looking at re-doing Gronk’s contract so that’s going to eat up more cap space.

In addition to Gronk, there are other possible restructure/extensions that could reduce the cap: Brady, Gostkowski, Allan and Hogan. Cooks could be extended, but given the market, I think that he might want to be free agent after the season.

Obviously, the team isn't standing still. Even with the low amount of cap space, we are looking at RB's, TE's, STers, pass rushers and the re-signing an OT or two.

 

[mgteich]

So, without cutting anyone or any restructuring, they have 17 million?

Maybe offload a few guys and get 25 mill free, go after like three free agents on defense. Wonder if that’s doable

As of last night, we have $15,659,488 of cap space available.

Yes, it always possible to cut players and have more cap space. Of course, you have to replace those players, in addition to paying for the players you sign. Potential cuts mentioned here include Allan, McClellan and Gillislie.