Official Free Agency 2018

[patsbrasilpatriotas]

And I thought I was being optimistic!

Here I am being optimistic LOL:

Patriots 53-man Projected Roster:

Cap Space: $3,400,000 (53-man Roster + Practice Squad Included)

OFFENSE (24):

QB(3): Tom Brady *** $22,000,000, Brian Hoyer $915,000
Rookie: Lauletta, Kyle, QB, Richmond
LT (1): Nate Solder 3 years - $9,750,000, $12,750,000, $13,500,000
LG (1): Joe Thuney $858,357
C (1): David Andrews $1,650,000
RG (1): Shaq Mason $2,017,882
RT (1): Marcus Cannon $5,768,750
OL (3): Ted Karras (C/LG) $630,000, Cole Croston (G/T) $557,000, Antonio Garcia (T)* $778,538
*(If he's not healthy they need to sign Waddle or Fleming)
TE (3): Rob Gronkowski $10,906,250
Rookie: Andrews, Mark, TE, Oklahoma
Rookie: Gesicki, Mike, TE, Penn State
WR (5): Brandin Cooks $8,459,000, Julian Edelman $4,666,666, Chris Hogan $3,281,250, Malcolm Mitchell $774,498 and
Danny Amendola* 2 years- $2,900,000, $3,400,000
FB (1): James Devlin
RB (4):James White $2,437,500, Mike Gillislee $2,181,250
Rookie: Chubb, Nick, RB, Georgia
Rookie: Walton, Mark, RB, Miami

ST (7):
Brandon King $1,300,000 / Brandon Bolden $720,000/
Nate Ebner 2 years - $1,500,000, $1,500,000
Mathew Slater 2 years $1,500,000, $1,500,000
Stephen Gostkowski *** $5,000,000 /Ryan Allen *** $2,000,000/ Joe Cordona $730,000

DEFENSE (22):

DT (5): Malcom Brown $2,422,392, Danny Shelton $2,030,954, Adam Butler $556,666, Lawrence Guy $2,766,666, Vincent Valentine $806,355
DE (4): Deatrich Wise, Jr. $698,970, Derek Rivers $783,724, Trey Flowers $2,046,733
Rookie:Okoronkwo, Ogbonnia, DE, Oklahoma
CB (5): Stephon Gilmore $12,506,250, Eric Rowe $1,100,435, Cyrus Jones $1,092,737, Jonathan Jones $633,334
Brashaud Breeland 3 years - $6,500,000, $6,000,000, $7,500,000
DB (4): Devin McCourty *** $11,935,000, Patrick Chung $3,800,000, Duron Harmon $3,500,000
Rookie: Webb, Damon, SS, Ohio State
LB (5): Dont'a Highotwer $8,523,435, Kyle Van Noy $3,572,916
Nigel Braham 3 years - $6,500,000, $6,500,000, $7,500,000
Rookie: Vander Esch, Leighton, OLB/ILB, Boise State

*** = Restructure and create cap space easily
Tom Brady
Devin McCourty
Stephen Gostkowski
Ryan Allen

 

[Love The Drake]

That's stupid money for Watkins
Bet some team coughs up at least a second if not a first for Martavius.

 

[luuked]

It's 30 fully gtd. I get your point. They will never see all that money. But even 80% of that is absurd. Solder will get 15m+ We can't compete. If he stays is based on loyalty and his kid ...

Of course we can compete.

There is no scenario in which the Pats really want Solder back but cant find a financial solution. For that their entire roster management and cap structure is too well built. There are enough ways to pay him. The issue is not Solder but how it affects down-the-line moves. There might be fewer in season pickups -- which have proven to be useful in the last couple of years. Also less depth in case of injuries. But the way BB and Caserio are running the show there is no scenario in which they literally dont have the money.

 

[maineman209]

2014-2017 ................ WATKINS .... COOKS .... ADAMS
receptions/gm ............. 3.7 ............. 4.8 ............ 4.0
receiving yds/gm ......... 58.7 .......... 68.0 .......... 47.6
scrimmage yds/gm ...... 58.9 .......... 70.8 .......... 47.6
catch rate ..................... 55.5% ....... 65.3% ........ 59.5%
yards/catch ................. 15.9 ........... 14.1 ............ 11.9
career touchdowns ...... 25 ............. 28 .............. 26
2018 cap hit ................. ??? ........... $8.46M .... $10.5M
new contract APY ....... $16M ......... ??? ........... $14.5M

EDIT:
Robinson, $25M guaranteed
Watkins, $30M guaranteed

 

[Love The Drake]

Of course we can compete.

There is no scenario in which the Pats really want Solder back but cant find a financial solution. For that their entire roster management and cap structure is too well built. There are enough ways to pay him. The issue is not Solder but how it affects down-the-line moves. There might be fewer in season pickups -- which have proven to be useful in the last couple of years. Also less depth in case of injuries. But the way BB and Caserio are running the show there is no scenario in which they literally dont have the money.

Correct
But a value is assigned to each positon based on the cap bet Solder hits 16 mill a year on his new contract and for that he can walk and we can build up the defense

 

[luuked]

That's stupid money for Watkins
Bet some team coughs up at least a second if not a first for Martavius.

I think they are lucky if they get anything higher than a fifth... a moody, inconsistent diva that is one strike away from a longer suspension.

 

[luuked]

Correct
But a value is assigned to each positon based on the cap bet Solder hits 16 mill a year on his new contract and for that he can walk and we can build up the defense

Depends on how they value what they can get on the market / what they have on the roster. Sometimes if there is no other option then you have to pay up.

The mistake many are making is thinking about this in another one of those false dualities. Yes, 16M is a lot of money.. but you were prepared to spend lets say 13.5M on that player anyway. Suddenly we are talking only about 2.5M of actual value difference.

Is saving 2.5M per season worth the risk involved in trying to find another LT and strengthening a direct AFC competitor (Texans) at one of their positions of weakness ? What if your replacement is shyte and your entire expensive elite offense stutters half of the time because the OL needs too much help in protection ? How much value does this lose you alone ?

 

[patsbrasilpatriotas]

Of course we can compete.

There is no scenario in which the Pats really want Solder back but cant find a financial solution. For that their entire roster management and cap structure is too well built. There are enough ways to pay him. The issue is not Solder but how it affects down-the-line moves. There might be fewer in season pickups -- which have proven to be useful in the last couple of years. Also less depth in case of injuries. But the way BB and Caserio are running the show there is no scenario in which they literally dont have the money.

If Texans offers him 4 years 62m 32 fully gtd. How can we compete? If he stays he will leave a ton of cash on the table and that's it. Money wise they have more cap space by a wide margin.

 

[luuked]

If Texans offers him 4 years 62m 32 fully gtd. How can we compete? If he stays he will leave a ton of cash on the table and that's it. Money wise they have more cap space by a wide margin.

Offer him more guaranteed money and done. (e.g. 48M total / 36M guaranteed). He only can leave cash on the table that is actually on the table and not something that is just dangled in front of him.

 

[maineman209]

If Texans offers him 4 years 62m 32 fully gtd. How can we compete? If he stays he will leave a ton of cash on the table and that's it. Money wise they have more cap space by a wide margin.

The Pats counter with 4 years, (fill in the blank APY), $33M fully-gtd. As long as his 2018 cap hit stays around $10M, the rest can be dealt with later.

 

[maineman209]

Offer him more guaranteed money and done. (e.g. 48M total / 36M guaranteed). He only can leave cash on the table that is actually on the table and not something that is just dangled in front of him.

Solder isn't stupid. In 2015, he signed for a $10M APY that was lower than a number of folks thought he'd get, so it was characterized as a "team-friendly deal." But, $19.89M of that $20M was fully-guaranteed.

 

[Uptown]

Some outside the box potential pass rush targets:

3 free agency bargains to bolster the Patriots' front seven

 

[Uptown]

KAREEM MARTIN:

“ Martin, like Murphy, is a big, versatile edge defender. He’s 6-foot-6, 272 pounds and can play standing up and with his hand in the ground. He also was a core special teamer with the Arizona Cardinals. He’s never been overly productive as a pro, but he did have 20 total pressures in 2017.”

Read more at: Patriots Free Agency: Five Pass Rushers Who Could Interest New England

 

[Uptown]

 

[Love The Drake]

Chiefs making moves
I think that's overpaying for Hitchens

 

[Love The Drake]

We should be able to keep Rivers for 3 or 4 mill a year

 

[Love The Drake]

Trent Murphy may get a deal in the 8 mill a year range.
I want in on Trent Murphy or let's trade for some pass rush

 

[Uptown]

Wow smdh lol. Massive over payment.

 

[patsinthesnow]

The Chiefs are basically out of cap $ without a first round pick. I’m not sure that defense could keep us under 45.

That Watkins move is just so odd from a team building perspective.

 

[maineman209]

Wow smdh lol. Massive over payment.