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Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possible

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Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

Way to wait til game day to annouce this you ****ing tool. Why not just not let us show up for the next few games.
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

THANK YOU. I completely agree. It makes no sense to have someone reviewing every game we've ever played to try and see if our notes show we had an in-game advantage! Come on now, that's nearly impossible to do.

They don't want us to benefit from ANY info we obtained via illegal videotape. The coaching bible we keep hearing about is being turned over so we can no longer have whatever advantage (however big or small) we may have previously enjoyed.

(btw, as my husband just pointed out, they want any originals and copies we may have...if they are going to be scouring games looking to see if we cheated in-game, they wouldn't care at all if we copied it).

Hey, could you help explain the last part, - what your husband said? I don't really understand that.
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

If Goodell discovers that Belichick and the team has copied the files without disclosure to the NFL, the consequences will be significant, sources said.

:bricks:
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

The fact this news was "leaked" on Sunday morning is telling. This has little to with investigating or getting evidence but a lot to do w/ screwing BB and the pats as much as possible.
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

The part her husband said, about copies, suggests that they want to avoid our using them not look for new issues. If they were looking for new violations that originals would suffice - getting copies too is to ensure we can't use the illegal product.
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

If Goodell discovers that Belichick and the team has copied the files without disclosure to the NFL, the consequences will be significant, sources said.

:bricks:

This, I don't understand. Do you know what they mean? I understand about copying obviously, but what are they alluding to? What would that prove in other words.
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

A few of thoughts:

1) I can't wait to see how things are handled by Goodell when we get to the next media cycle.

2) Goodell has already demonstrated a tendency to "determine" if rules were broken. Turning over more video just gives him more opportunity to "find" something.

3) Not to head off the inevitable request for the tapes, but because they were following the ruling. What do you think Goodell would do, if the Pats proactively purged the historical tapes as a result of the ruling earlier this week?
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

The part her husband said, about copies, suggests that they want to avoid our using them not look for new issues. If they were looking for new violations that originals would suffice - getting copies too is to ensure we can't use the illegal product.

Thanks,

But, what about getting in serious trouble if they found out that we copied them?
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

Thinking more about it, I think the message ( leaked info ) says it all. Because it states that Bill didn't realize he was breaking the rules, but everytime he did, he was. Could they be looking for the number of time he did it, which would be every game and put together a punishment for all the infractions ?????? Tell me I'm way off with this, please
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

I would point out this comment from commissioner's office spokesman Aiello:

"Estrella will not be punished, league spokesman Greg Aiello said, adding that there is no investigation into claims that the Patriots have been doing this for years.
"Our goal is to stop this type of conduct going forward and level the playing field," Aiello said.


Surely this is the sensible approach. Any requests for documentation will be from this incident, to eliminate it. I suspect Mortensen and ESPN simply want to sensationalize the leaks, possibly from the competition committee (no suprise on either count!!).
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

Who is going to get to review all this secret stuff of the Patriots?

Other coaches?

How much of it will make it's way to the media?

This is insane and I hope PATs refuse to give a thing.
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

I would point out this comment from commissioner's office spokesman Aiello:

"Estrella will not be punished, league spokesman Greg Aiello said, adding that there is no investigation into claims that the Patriots have been doing this for years.
"Our goal is to stop this type of conduct going forward and level the playing field," Aiello said.


Surely this is the sensible approach. Any requests for documentation will be from this incident, to eliminate it. I suspect Mortensen and ESPN simply want to sensationalize the leaks, possibly from the competition committee (no suprise on either count!!).

Ya, they did say that, thanks for the reminder post, so what's going on then ????
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

Oh, I get it all now.

Thanks folks,

A little slow here. lol

So, maybe it is just that. Give us all yer stuff you maingy cheeters!
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

I would point out this comment from commissioner's office spokesman Aiello:

"Estrella will not be punished, league spokesman Greg Aiello said, adding that there is no investigation into claims that the Patriots have been doing this for years.
"Our goal is to stop this type of conduct going forward and level the playing field," Aiello said.


Surely this is the sensible approach. Any requests for documentation will be from this incident, to eliminate it. I suspect Mortensen and ESPN simply want to sensationalize the leaks, possibly from the competition committee (no suprise on either count!!).

When did he say that, after Bill said sorry ???
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

Hello all... long time Pats fan here...

I was shown these forums recently just this week by my husband... I am SOOO upset right now by what is happening right now.

Two major things happened in the last week in Football. This mess with the Patriots and the Bills player being seriously injured. In my opinion, the thoughts and prayers of ALL NFL fans should be with that guy and his family, NOT focused on this BS. Everett fights to move a few fingers.... THIS is what everyone should be focused on! Rather then being Human,the commissioner pulls this stuff...

This just isn't right

I seriously hope that the Commissioner gets his head on straight.... asap
 
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I don't think Goodell wants to keep this alive, but the mediots with league sources do. This was part of the agreement since Thursday night, but Mort is attempting to flush it out to create a refreshed spin on the story.

I said it before, Goodell needs to get a handle on who Mort's sources are, and if they are truly league office sources he needs to clean house to set an example. People who work in his offices should have to sign a confidentiality agreement, since many of them are inclined to use their position to curry favor with the media that will help them advance or seek other employment within the league, if they haven't already. Guys like Charlie Casserly are a prime example. Miserable failure as a GM, wanted HQ job, including Goodell's, but didn't get it. Uses insider league contacts to continue to curry favor within the media so that his hope of snagging a league job can live on. If the sources are members of the competition committee he consulted with, Goodell needs to have a sit down with them and tell them their fiduciary responsibility to the league while in such a position is to at least maintain the illusion of impartiality and confidentiality at least when dealing with him on league matters. Pathetic.

Goodell and NFL ownership are surrounded by former FBI agents, yet the concept of league security is a joke. Mangini had to draw these clowns a map and set up his mentor to catch a guy always apparently hides in plain sight. No wonder they can't find any dogfighters or steriod abusers or uncover prior arrests.

I'm beginning to fear that for all his bluster, Goodell really doesn't want to clean up the league, he just wants everyone to stop being caught being bad from now on on his watch... He wanted Vick to skate, but the Feds had other plans they wisely didn't clue him in on. This is a joke. Many assumed these players who were suspended would be required to serve those suspensions while on an NFL roster. Only last week there were reports that now that a team is interested in Tank, his suspension will include time served on the unemployment line. Unfortunately Kill Bill has the markings of some sort of tradeoff exchange to garner support for the continued prominence of the role Commissioner's office. I hope the next time that office needs all hands on deck to negotiate a new TV deal or avoid a CBA disaster, Bob takes Jonathan to Israel with him on vacation and leaves them all twisting in the wind.

I agree with this. There is no benefit to the league to pursue a scandal. None. Only certain specific people (Polian, Casserly) will want to keep this issue aflame, with the help of media people who have demonstrated over and over again that they simply do not think very well, if ever.
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

So, you guys think that maybe they are just trying to level the playing field for the future, and ensure that the pats only used league sanctioned video?
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

Hello all... long time Pats fan here...

I was shown these forums recently just this week by my husband... I am SOOO upset right now by what is happening right now.

Two major things happened in the last week in Football. This mess with the Patriots and the Bills player being seriously injured. In my opinion, the thoughts and prayers of ALL NFL fans should be with that guy and his family, NOT focused on this BS. Everett fights to move a few fingers.... THIS is what everyone should be focused on! Rather then being Human,the commissioner pulls this stuff...

This just isn't right

I seriously hope that the Commissioner gets his head on straight.... asap

Welcome! And I have been keeping tabs on Everett's condition since the media doesn't want to.
 
Re: Mort: Goodell orders Patriots to turn over all tape/notes, more penalties possibl

It doesn't do the league any good to discredit Patriot wins over the years.
That's a black eye to the league.
That said, who knows where this is going?
Hopefully Goodell gets what he wants from the Pats, makes a statement of no further transgresssions from the Pats, and let's move on.
Unfortunately this latest request will take awhile to end.
 
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