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Surprised this isn't on Bleacher Report, they have this one dude whose agenda is to prove empirically that Thuney > Mason. If you disagree he asks you how much time you've spent watching coaches film.
 
Change the thread title please. When people do this the first thought is a negative one by the reader. Thanks
 
Change the thread title please. When people do this the first thought is a negative one by the reader. Thanks

The thread title quoted the actual article's title, in which the headline was botched.
 
Ive been saying this abt him and Shaq all off season. Both have been playing like top 10 G's. I think Shaq is just below top tier.

Some team will draft Quenton Nelson with 1st rd pick and possibly Will Hernandez.

Shaq - 131

Thuney - 78
 
Hear, hear!

Also: Fanrag Sports?!?! ...checked out the site and it seems packed with great articles... how could I have missed this? Has this been around awhile?


Lots of good stuff over there.
 
Ive been saying this abt him and Shaq all off season. Both have been playing like top 10 G's. I think Shaq is just below top tier.

Some team will draft Quenton Nelson with 1st rd pick and possibly Will Hernandez.

Shaq - 131

Thuney - 78

Good points, but Nelson seems worth a first though.
 
Good points, but Nelson seems worth a first though.

Oh I think both are almost certain top 40 picks. Just interesting to note.
 
Shaq & Thuney have exceeded my expectations. They are key contributors and have been during a SB season. Lots to like there.
 
Thuney has been an amazing find for the team. He has been technically sound since day 1.

His ability to adjust to plays on the fly gives him an added dimension to his game,
 
Thuney has been an amazing find for the team. He has been technically sound since day 1.

Yep. And another humbling reminder of how the reaction of fans (and even "experts," and often enough GMs) on draft day is stunningly uncorrelated with a pick's eventual success. Darius Butler was a steal; Sebastian Vollmer was a reach; Shaq Mason could never play anywhere but center in the NFL; etc., etc.

Thuney was an unpopular pick on this board. Here are some blasts from the past from 2016 draft day -- anonymously, because we're all allowed to be wrong about predicting the future.

What I don't get is his size and power. He just does not seem that strong and look at his arms; heck, Ed Hochuli is more ripped than him. He is not a road grader--how is he supposed to play guard in the NFL?
To say that Joey Thuney has alligator arms would be an insult…to alligators.
Why????? This guy is not a master of the zone blocking scheme. The pats have to start from scratch teaching him. Not sure he has the feet to work in the zone blocking scheme.
Prior to the draft, I thought they were all set at guard
The Obvious choice for an OLman at 78 should've been LeRaven Clark, aka the 2016 Swing Tackle / 2017 Starting RT / 2018 Starting LT.. [if they] really wanted a LG, then the better choices including the aforementioned (Joe) Dahl would've been Connor McGovern & Christian Westerman
(Editor's note: all four players are now lightly used backup guards -- including Clark, who failed at tackle.)
 
Good to see Thuney is now back to being a guard instead of an original gangsta.
 
This is an excellent post that helps to explain the nuances of both individual blocking techniques as well as how they work within the blocking scheme.

An important point that the author makes is that, just like the rest of their operation, the Pats aren't wedded to a particular blocking scheme, so that an opponent might see zone blocking one week and power blocking another.

I also couldn't help but notice just how different the blocking techniques are compared to the ones I played with and coached. While the footwork isn't too much different, the pad level and the focus on "hand placement" is radically different.

Back in the day (which is a phrase I use altogether too much these days. ), there WAS no "hand placement", since you couldn't use your hands on offense. Also the pad level was much lower. Instead of using your hands to create separation, you used your forearms.

On run blocks you would fire out into the waist of a defender, and THEN work your way up as you gained control. The place where he bends. Note how high all the run blocks are. Back in the..... well, we used to derisively call that "titty blocks", when both the defensive and offensive players were too high. Now everything relies on "hand placement", on both sides of the ball.

I have always felt that if I ever got a chance to speak with BB one on one, one of the questions I would ask would be if the Delaware Wing T blocking system could ever make a comeback in the NFL. The Delaware Wing T used all angle blocking and pulls as a primary concept. You rarely asked anyone to block one on one at the point of attack, and NEVER asked anyone to reach block.

BB would be familiar with the system, and I'd LOVE to hear his comments. I think it would be a different and effective approach....at least until defenses caught up with it.
 
This order of operation is important to consider on every rep when evaluating the offensive line. Working up from the flexion of the ankle to the flexion of the hips largely establishes the leverage OL operate within on a given play. Achieving each of these criteria involves having mobility at these key joints in order to bend and achieve superior pad level.
Cat like flexibility
 
Did anybody here actually watch Thuney allow those 2 sacks in Buffalo? They were so unprofessionally bad they were comical. He's lucky Brady wasn't hurt more than he was on them.
 
Did anybody here actually watch Thuney allow those 2 sacks in Buffalo? They were so unprofessionally bad they were comical. He's lucky Brady wasn't hurt more than he was on them.
Sure but it were the first two he allowed this year.

Thuney is solid. You know that.
 
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