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Kraft: zero DV tolerance - no Mixon

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There is a second trial of a former Patriot going on in Boston right now by a thug, once bitten twice shy...

Cincinnati might be a better choice, and easier for the assigned team probation officer..
 
OK, Blount punched someone who provoked him. Mixon punched someone who provoked him. The moral principal here is that it's wrong to hit someone even if you were provoked.

The lack of consistency here screams virtual signalling.

Holy Jesus, that's as stupid as stupid gets. Blount punched an. Opposing player in a scrum on the sideline,Mixon punched a young women in a restaurant and broke her jaw. You are like the Maine legislator who thinks that if women can get an abortion men should be allowed to rape them,
 
Idiot knocked out a girl. No reason why he couldnt have easily pushed her away and removed himself from the situation. Seems like a few people are justifing what he did because he's a draft binky.

I also see people bringing up Blount, Blount went undrafted because of that incident.
 
Idiot knocked out a girl. No reason why he couldnt have easily pushed her away and removed himself from the situation. Seems like a few people are justifing what he did because he's a draft binky.

I also see people bringing up Blount, Blount went undrafted because of that incident.
University of Oklahoma student Ameila Molitor's jaw was broken by Joe Mixon | Daily Mail Online

"He felled her with a punch and she shattered her jaw on a table"

I think it is important to point out that he didn't break her jaw directly with the punch. It was the fall, and hitting the table, that broke it. So if he had merely shoved her away from she could still easily have fallen and injured herself in a similar fashion to being punched.

Also, watching the video it appears he was trying to leave when the woman got up and started shoving him and hitting him.
 
Basically, If Mixon hadn't followed her in there, the event wouldn't have happened.

Was he following her or the guy with her? He appeared to walk over and face the guy first.
 
Yeah definitively shouldn't have punched her, thought through this myself if I was in this scenario and if he had pushed her back okay fine. But knocking her out cold? Damn.
 
And you think that Mixon had no reason to fear for his safety? You realize that pushing her away is the thing that a few bright bulbs in this thread suggested Mixon was SUPPOSED to do? And I'm sure restraining her against her will wouldn't have been seen as "violence against women" either. And leaving himself completely vunlerable to the guy who'd been fully involved in the encounter in the parking lot was obviously a fine idea as well.

I hate to use the term, because it gets used far more than it should and it puts me in a position where it's easy to put me in a box, but the white knighting in this thread is getting a little silly. There is an appropriate time to use the term and it seems to apply here. When white knights get going, they don't do half measures. A large minority of people at the very least would have condemned Mixon for doing anything other than nothing no matter who was actually responsible for what happened. Personally I resent the concept, people are assuming the person who started the fight is some kind of delicate flower that needs protecting, and that's just objectively wrong and unjust in a way I wish I was better at putting words to.

You don't put hands on another human being and expect them to just stand there and take it. That's too high a standard of behavior to ask. I'm not saying a right cross to the chops was an appropriate response, but putting all the onus on Mixon when he wasn't the first one to cross the line and resort to violence is ridiculous. Molitor needs to be held responsible for her own role in the fracas, the fact that he's a black man filling a certain stereotype of young black men, and she's a physically attractive blonde white female, notwithstanding.

And yes, putting my cards on the table, I am in fact fully convinced that various racial and gender biases are in play with just how quickly certain of us have put Mixon in a box for this one incident and how presumptively some of us are rushing to Molitor's defense. I mean how could they not be? An attractive white female starts a physical altercation with a young black man who resorts to violence in response and catches 100% of the blame? This is a perfect case study of the race and gender divide in this country.

The fact is that Mixon was in a situation where he couldn't win the moment he was dumb enough to come when Molitor called him to the table. He handled it particularly poorly, but with the toxic state of race and gender relations in this country, I'm not entirely sure there was a winning solution on the table for Mixon in the first place.

Well the guy my buddies took to the pit to scare the **** out of was a dangerous dude. I didn't state all the prior incidents that lead up to that point. The guy ended up serving life in jail a few years later for murder. They knew he was dangerous. Police complaints didn't work, the police could only react after the fact so they did what they thought would scare him enough to keep him away and it worked.

White Knights? Race biased? So was the judge was biased or not?

Your position is, "What he did was "very very stupid" but I feel there is racial biases at play"? "What he did was an overreaction but he had a legal right to do so and she got what she deserved because she should have never slapped him"?

You're all over the place.

I don't even know if you agree with the plea bargain he accepted. He pled guilty to misdemeanor assault. He apologized to the girl. He has been going to counselling. A white guy would have received the same thing or do you disagree with that? I do think things were dealt with properly and disagree with those who want him banned from any team.

I listened to the Dan Patrick interview and he sounded sincere in his apology and regret. He said his mother was disappointed in him. He said he was attending anger management counseling. All of which are positives and are the proper way, imo, to handle DV type issues. He's lucky because that punch could have killed her but instead he just knocked her out and broke her jaw. I hope he has learned from this incident and goes on to have a HOF career.

You seem to be conflicted in your own argument and found the need to throw a race card into it. I don't get it.
 
None of this would have happened if she knew how to fight. She just punched him in the cheek and stood there before she ate a haymaker. She did good by throwing the first punch, but it should have been in the nose. Get those eyes watering so he can't see. Then, get up on the balls of your feet, square your body, and bob and weave away from his strong hand. Send a jab in at the nose again, continue to bob and weave until you get your shot, then throw a two piece with a right cross across the jaw. Once he hits the ground, ground and pound until you're sure he's not getting up. This would be a good time to rain down a few elbows and split him open for good measure. She didn't follow these basic principles and got worked. For training, I'd recommend a three mile run every morning followed by some work on the heavy and speed bags. Maybe we can get a re-match in the future if the money is right. Don't forget to hit the dislike button on your way out.

Her first strike should have been to his nuts. That would have brought him down to her level where she could have done some real damage.
 
I think it is important to point out that he didn't break her jaw directly with the punch. It was the fall, and hitting the table, that broke it. So if he had merely shoved her away from she could still easily have fallen and injured herself in a similar fashion to being punched.

Using that logic, Ray Rice isn't as much at fault because she hit him first and her head hit the railing after he struck her.
 
Yeah definitively shouldn't have punched her, thought through this myself if I was in this scenario and if he had pushed her back okay fine. But knocking her out cold? Damn.

It was completely unnecessary. You only hit girls if there is a legitimate threat of being killed by them.

For example, if you are at a bar and Eileen Wuornos has a knife in her hand, you disable here the best you can.

If Rhonda Rousey throws a punch, you leave and brag about it.

If its a smoking hot blonde, while being respectful and a gentleman you weigh your options.
 
It was completely unnecessary. You only hit girls if there is a legitimate threat of being killed by them.

For example, if you are at a bar and Eileen Wuornos has a knife in her hand, you disable here the best you can.

If Rhonda Rousey throws a punch, you leave and brag about it.

If its a smoking hot blonde, while being respectful and a gentleman you weigh your options.
If Ronda throws a punch? Nah that's nothing to brag about. Now Amanda Nunez comes at you? Woah...if you can live to tell the tale..
 
University of Oklahoma student Ameila Molitor's jaw was broken by Joe Mixon | Daily Mail Online

"He felled her with a punch and she shattered her jaw on a table"

I think it is important to point out that he didn't break her jaw directly with the punch. It was the fall, and hitting the table, that broke it. So if he had merely shoved her away from she could still easily have fallen and injured herself in a similar fashion to being punched.
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SPIN SPIN SPIN

When I say push I don't mean a push with force behind it. He could easily lightly brushed her aside and walked away.

Also, watching the video it appears he was trying to leave when the woman got up and started shoving him and hitting him


Oh give me a f**cking break. If he wanted to leave he could have

Watch the video again. He could have easily kept walking away but he decided to be a tough guy and turn around and square up before she ever pushed him


Idiot had no problem running away after he knocked her out yet i'm supposed to believe he couldn't walk away when she pushed him.
 
If Ronda throws a punch? Nah that's nothing to brag about. Now Amanda Nunez comes at you? Woah...if you can live to tell the tale..
I would agree.
 
If Ronda throws a punch? Nah that's nothing to brag about. Now Amanda Nunez comes at you? Woah...if you can live to tell the tale..

Just keep Lorena Bobbitt away from me. Please.
 
Ok, another nice little gathering here, eh Kontra?

1. Mixon is wrong for doing what he did. He was not cornered and in a situation where his only option was to KO this chick. Just walk away,

2. Sinpleton, you have not really added anything of substance to this forum since you joined last month. You may go now.

3. DI, the stupidest thing on here by far the past few months was Actual Pats Fan's comparison of the Patriots new uniforms to Nazi Germany.

4. I can see why some posters here are defending Mixon. That little slap the woman gave Mixion in the video would have probably knocked out half the ****ies on this forum. You know who you are.

5. You can always tell the guys who have no issue with someone hitting a woman who was clearly not a threat. Its the guys who dont get to talk to women.
 
University of Oklahoma student Ameila Molitor's jaw was broken by Joe Mixon | Daily Mail Online

"He felled her with a punch and she shattered her jaw on a table"

I think it is important to point out that he didn't break her jaw directly with the punch. It was the fall, and hitting the table, that broke it. So if he had merely shoved her away from she could still easily have fallen and injured herself in a similar fashion to being punched.

Also, watching the video it appears he was trying to leave when the woman got up and started shoving him and hitting him.
Now now, dont let facts get in the way of a good witch hunt. A smart person wouldn't even throw good words after bad in a thread like this, leave it to a simpleton like me.
 
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