AP All-Pro Team

[ctpatsfan77]

Amazing that the Patriots did not have a single starter on the first-team.

No "sexy" picks, and Brady was of course suspended.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Amazing that the Patriots did not have a single starter on the first-team.
Dallas had 5.
I'm not saying the Patriots deserved one, but they do have a 14-2 team, and this must be unprecedented for such a team not to have even one.

I think the quote they like to use is, "We're building a team, not collecting talent." Let other teams have 1st team All-Pros, just as long as we can have a 17-2 SB Champ.

 

[Tony2046]

I'm saying this objectively. I think the second team mops the floor with the first team.

 

[borisman]

So I guess this pretty cements the MVP for Ryan.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Agreed. Also glad to see Malcom Butler get recognition for his play....amazing journey from an undrafted rookie to a elite CB in-the-making

It's early, but Butler looks like he's climbing up the all-time UDFA list.

Could be looking at a multi-SB champion + a handful of All-Pros for Butler when it's all said and done (And one of the greatest plays in SB history ).

 

[meatface]

No "sexy" picks, and Brady was of course suspended.

I mean really who else would you put on their who isnt? I suppose you could say Solder or Mason deserved some credit but Offensive Line is difficult to evaluate.

 

[borisman]

I'm saying this objectively. I think the second team mops the floor with the first team.

It's a much deeper team, for sure If one first teamer gets hurt they'll be playing 11 vs. 10.

 

[jah]

It's a much deeper team, for sure If one first teamer gets hurt they'll be playing 11 vs. 10.

I wish real roster spots were voted on. Then we could have a 5 way tie at every position and keep our entire TC roster all year just in case.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

So I guess this pretty cements the MVP for Ryan.

PFT agrees - they said the voters are the same. So unless they went with Ezekiel Elliott, I would figure the guy they voted as 1st team QB would be the QB to win MVP.

 

[Gronkowski123]

GRONK still got a vote for TE.

he's the GOAT

 

[scott99]

Agreed. Also glad to see Malcom Butler get recognition for his play....amazing journey from an undrafted rookie to a elite CB in-the-making

The interesting thing is, Butler is being recognized as one of the top 5 corners in the league, out of ALL the corners from BOTH the AFC and NFC, as a second team All-Pro, yet he wasn't voted to the Pro-Bowl. Has that ever happened before ? Very bizarre.

That being said, being a second team All-Pro is more prestigious than being voted to the Pro Bowl.

 

[fightingirish595]

Butler deserved to be first team over harris

 

[ALP]

so

the Giants have a LOT of guys on those lists...

 

[hoeilaart]

The interesting thing is, Butler is being recognized as one of the top 5 corners in the league, out of ALL the corners from BOTH the AFC and NFC, as a second team All-Pro, yet he wasn't voted to the Pro-Bowl. Has that ever happened before ? Very bizarre.

That being said, being a second team All-Pro is more prestigious than being voted to the Pro Bowl.

Richard Sherman a few years ago. Sean Lee, this year.

 

[Joey007]

So I guess this pretty cements the MVP for Ryan.

I just hope that whoever wins the MVP has to face Brady in the Super Bowl.

 

[PF_SU]

Uh, ah. Feels strange saying this... but I think PFF's got it better...

Butler deserved to be first team over harris

Harris is great. Butler should've made it over Marcus Peters.

 

[BTTA]

Seeing 2nd-team All-Pro next to Marcus Cannon's name is wild. Would have never guessed in a million years.

I hope (but don't expect) that this helps us have a little collective memory around here for the next Pats player to have a bad year.

 

[borg]

Be warned, the perpetually-contrarian-I'm-not-a-homer-crowd will pretend not to know what a "game ending interception" is.

If memory serves me correct, you have stated multiple times that Ryan has served up 4 "game ending interceptions".

ATL's 5 losses

Week 1 verses Tampa Bay. No Ryan INT

Week 6 verses Seattle. Ryan throws a pick with with 3:57 left in 4th qtr and Seattle kicks a FG to take lead on their subsequent possession. No doubt..."critical interception"...or "game changing interception"....but certainly not a "game ending interception" given that Atlanta had 1 additional series after the Ryan pick.

Week 7 verses San Diego. Again, Ryan throws a pick....3:32 left in the 4th qtr and SD subsequently takes lead on next possession. Again ....a very critical/game changing INT...but again...not game ending considering ATL had two possessions after the Ryan pick.

Week 11 verses Eagles. This time, Ryan does throw a game ending INT with 30 seconds left in game. Of course ATL was down by 9 at the time

Week 13 verses Chiefs. Ryan throws 1 INT...in 2nd QTR

My count:
One "game ending interception" ........an irrelevant INT ...more desperation considering ATL was down by 9 pts with 30 seconds left.
Two "game changing interceptions".........but certainly not game ending considering ATL had subsequent possessions but fell flat.

Suggestion: you don't need to massage facts, spread a false narrative, and diminish those that are more precise with the English language ....all to boost TB12's MVP resume. Brady had an incredible 12 games and Ryan's 4th qtr failures are obvious....just not game ending ...except one irrelevant pick.

 

[PF_SU]

Week 13 verses Chiefs. Ryan throws 1 INT...in 2nd QTR

He also threw an INT on the 2pt try that KC returned for 2. Instead of 30-27 or 28-27 it was 28-29.

Ryan is deserving of the All-Pro nod, though Brady was better. As a whole I think PFF got better selections.

 

[PF_SU]

By the way, why did those idiots vote Von Miller in as First Team All Pro LB? He's an edge defender for god's sake. What's the point of changing the position to edge to account for the difference between 3-4 OLBs playing on the line and 4-3 LBs playing off when those mediots ignore it? I bet the Second Team All Pro LB corps (10!) wouldn't be as crazy if the media members voted for an actual LB instead of giving Von Miller 47 votes (he got 0 as edge).