Would We Have Beaten The Rams With Bledsoe?

[RobertWeathers]

In all fairness to Drew, he had to adjust to multiple Offensive Coordinators who came and quickly left....

Drew was exposed to two different offensive systems. Under Tuna/BB they ran the Perkins/Erhardt system (Perkins/Weis) and under Pom-Pom (Kennan/Chimpaneze) they ran the Gillman/Coryell offense.

So while he did have a few different coordinators, he only needed to deal with two systems.

 

[70Dart]

Drew was exposed to two different offensive systems. Under Tuna/BB they ran the Perkins/Erhardt system (Perkins/Weis) and under Pom-Pom (Kennan/Chimpaneze) they ran the Gillman/Coryell offense.

So while he did have a few different coordinators, he only needed to deal with two systems.

I thought Carroll had his own system he brought in? I may be wrong on that though.

And I know even now the system we use is still Weis' system.

 

[Jackson 2]

If you recall that final drive play by play (and I've watched it so many times it's indelibly tattooed on my brain) and mentally substitute the Drew you knew for Brady on that drive, you'll likely puke and then go to bed (alone.)

 

[70Dart]

I thought Carroll had his own system he brought in? I may be wrong on that though.

And I know even now the system we use is still Weis' system.

Never mind I completely read that wrong..lol Ignore this post...lol

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

No. Patriots had, probably, one gameplan that could result in a win: tight game management that did not allow the Rams to get in a rhythm and/or start to roll up the score (plus an emphasis for the defense to POUND! the Ram receivers each and every time they touched the ball). Drew was a grade A gunslinger who could roll up the yards but for this game his style/thinking was going to give the Rams extra chances and probably get us into a shooting match with the Rams (a sure loss).
Brady provided tight game management, took what the Rams would give him and did not force it, understood field position/clock, played way above his head in terms of poise, and stayed within the overall team picture's gameplan.

 

[WinstonSmith]

Maybe, you would need at least 2 of the strongest Pats to hold Bledsoe by the ankles so that they could properly swing him violently. Bledsoe’s relative statuesque stiffness will make him extremely suitable as a blunt force weapon.

Rams are fast and quick animals and would easily dodge or counter an awkward and slow Bledsoe attack. Someone would need to deal with the logistics of procuring and restraining the Rams.

Final rating: plausible.

 

[Tunescribe]

A better question is, would we have beaten the Colts in 2006 AFC championship game, had we simply re-signed Branch?

That game is the most regrettable missed opportunity of the BB/Brady era. It should've been won even with the subpar WRs we had and the Patriots certainly would have beaten Chicago in the Super Bowl. Still irks me thinking about it.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I thought Carroll had his own system he brought in? I may be wrong on that though.

And I know even now the system we use is still Weis' system.

Pete Carroll runs the Air Coryell offensive system. As OCs here Kennan and Zampeze ran that system.

 

[RobertWeathers]

That game is the most regrettable missed opportunity of the BB/Brady era. It should've been won even with the subpar WRs we had and the Patriots certainly would have beaten Chicago in the Super Bowl. Still irks me thinking about it.

In retrospect, losing Rodney vs TN Week 16 was the death blow.

He plays Indy doesn't go off the 2nd 1/2 and Eric Alexander doesn't play and ultimately doesn't get roasted in coverage and Indy receivers don't run wild in the secondary.

 

[mosslost]

He got to the super bowl almost entirely because of the defense. His play during the playoffs was not good.

I agree he took a turn for the worse after 97 but think he was was given plenty of credit to the point of being overrated. Brady outplayed Bledsoe in the 2001 preseason, and almost won the job outright, almost certainly would have if not for Drew's new contract

He was pretty good in that Steelers game if I remember. He 28 TDs and 14 Pics I think, which at that time was pretty good (And it was very good for him)

 

[Brit patriot]

The Bledsoe thing is a fascinating one. Maybe it is because he was replaced by the GOAT, but to hear some people talk, you would think he was Ryan Mallett.

 

[tasmlab]

Having just rewatched it, the first 57 minutes could've been played by anybody. But the end needed the mythical Tom Brady and whatever magic he uses to make miracles happen at the end of football games.

 

[Wax Frog]

"Wake me when it's over!"

Paging @yukon cornelius

 

[1960Pats]

Nah especially since Bledsoe would have had just 3 quarters of a game of action since September.

Joey Porter doesn't drop what would have been an easy pick 6...and the Pats don't even get to that Super Bowl.

I read an article saying BB had considered letting Tom come back in that AFC championship game but he stayed with Drew. Never knew that.

BB probably considered bringing TB back in for DB after that ridiculous backwards over the shoulder throw that Drew attempted while he was being tackled. It was pure luck that Pittsburgh didn't end up with the ball.

 

[sb1]

Bledsoe and the 1996 Pats - including Martin entering his prime - I think they would have given those Rams fits. The Rams were not one of the elite run stopping teams in the league. If A. Smith was able to gash them (and he did) I can imagine with Martin would have done.

Speaking of Smith, you could make an argument that he was just as worthy of MVP of that game as Brady was.

 

[1960Pats]

The Bledsoe thing is a fascinating one. Maybe it is because he was replaced by the GOAT, but to hear some people talk, you would think he was Ryan Mallett.

Of course Bledsoe is no Ryan Mallet. But he's just as surely no Tom Brady either. He never was.

 

[LivinLovin&Breathin_Brady]

Wait, were you talking about the kayfabe, aka as in the TV drama the league has set up for us, version? No freaking way Bledsoe would've won us a ring. The Rams would've destroyed him and the Pats D would've got so many holding penalties, it wouldn't have been funny. Bledsoe's a punk, he probably would've ran the time out, instead of go for 3 like Brady did.

Realistically and truthfully though--

Yes, they would've won w/ Bledsoe.

They were selected because it was the aftermath of 9/11 and America needed to feel some Patriotism, in the form of entertainment. So the "we're all Patriots" speech was planned and necessary -- pathos. However it would've been a fluke, like the Saints and their 1 ring after Katrina. Brady was a new QB with all-American, model-esque good looks and an eligible bachelor for dumb chicks feigning for a chance, he was a star in the making, a marketing machine, so the league gifted him more rings-- just as long as he played on a lesser level than their prince and selected golden boy, Peyton Manning.

Then Brady got Moss and started to outplay Manning and Montana -- the league never wanted Brady to be a GOAT, just a system guy, who was apart of the greatest dynasty ever created, thanks to Belichick. As soon as Brady started to rebel...

Brady was suddenly the evil baby daddy with a hot supermodel girlfriend, thanks to Bridget and Spygate was introduced to the public. The league had more sway and power to bury both stories from the jump, but they wanted it out there, like Ray Rice to distract us from CTE-gate. They wanted to villify the undefeated Pats because it was it was good for business and they wanted to ruin Brady's credibility, he's a cheater (on and off the field), while Manning didn't need to resort to cheating bs. Same thing with Deflategate, compared to how quick they buried the stories for them cheating Steelers and old Manning with his HGH, and now they wonder why viewers are tuning out. I guess they can keep using Colin wanna-relate-and-be-black-so-bad aka "the woke" Kapernick as the fall guy. Please.

The press wanted a race war and Colin was no more than the league's puppet. If they didn't want it, he wouldn't have been doing it, nor would he still have a job in the league today playing as sorry as he played for the past 3 years. Think about it. The league gave us Beybot at the Superbowl last year, who was clearly trying to use her influence to divide the races at halftime.

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

The Bledsoe thing is a fascinating one. Maybe it is because he was replaced by the GOAT, but to hear some people talk, you would think he was Ryan Mallett.

He honestly wasn't much better than Mallett by the time he was replaced in 2001. What's really funny is the people who thought he was at or above Brady's level. From the second half of 99 till the injury in 01, the Pats were 7-19, they were circling the drain, Bledsoe's play was awful. Brady takes that team, goes 11-3 the rest of the season and they win them the SB. Yet people were still clamoring for Drew, thinking it was still 1994.

Bledsoe started out good but quickly plateaued and then declined. His last year 1/2 to 2 years, he was a complete liability. Once Brady took over, there was no turning back, there was no competition and there is no way in hell the Pats would have sniffed the playoffs in 2001 with Bledsoe at the helm.

 

[TheFlyingWedge]

The defense won that game with a little help from Brady and Adam. If that 4th quarter Tebucky Jones fumble recovery for a TD wasn't nullified by the McGinest penalty, the defense wins the game single-handedly.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

No.

Sunday vs DEN was the reason why.

Same as it was vs the Rams.

There is a difference between being a passer and a quarterback.

_2000_......_2001_
MIA 11-5........2-0
IND 10-6........2-0
NYJ 9-7..........1-1
BUF 8-8.........0-2
NEP 5-11........0-2
"...yup, never seen a team as dead as this one..."
"get three coffins ready"
"...my mistake, four coffins..."
"...well, I guess your fans will be happy to get their old logo back..."
And you don't want to be here when they do?
"you mean, all the traditional, classy, genuine fans with some semblance of taste on one side; and all the Kraft/Bledsoe/Flying Elvis worshippers on the other...and me right smack in the middle?
....Noooooo thanks. Too dangerous. Well, see you at training camp..."
Adios