Jim Plunkett top 5 All Time?

[mosslost]

Nope.

 

[Ring 6]

I think you have a typo where you left off the 0 after the 5.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Top 5 Patriot QBs? Hell no.

 

[Joey007]

What's the motivation of this thread..

 

[mosslost]

What's the motivation of this thread..

One of the long time posters insists over and over he is better than Elway, Marino and ranks him like top 10 anyway...

 

[Jackson 2]

Few things in life are better than morning drinking...

 

[AQPE]

My opinion: Brady, Grogan, Bledsoe, and Parilli are probably above Plunkett on the Patriots' list (I was too young to see Parilli so this one is based on what I heard from my Dad). Based on my own observations I'd take Plunkett before anyone else, with Eason the only other one I could see anyone making a case for.

This is based on what they did for the Patriots, not their overall careers. If you take the other parts of their careers into consideration, then its even stronger for Plunkett I think. I don't really remember him having a "bad" year for the Patriots, what I remember is him getting beat to a pulp behind an horrendous OL. When he was healthy and on his game he was pretty good; accurate passer, good decisionmaker, good arm strength, good athletically.

So I'd rank him top 5 all time for the Pats.

 

[mosslost]

My opinion: Brady, Grogan, Bledsoe, and Parilli are probably above Plunkett on the Patriots' list (I was too young to see Parilli so this one is based on what I heard from my Dad). Based on my own observations I'd take Plunkett before anyone else, with Eason the only other one I could see anyone making a case for.

This is based on what they did for the Patriots, not their overall careers. If you take the other parts of their careers into consideration, then its even stronger for Plunkett I think. I don't really remember him having a "bad" year for the Patriots, what I remember is him getting beat to a pulp behind an horrendous OL. When he was healthy and on his game he was pretty good; accurate passer, good decisionmaker, good arm strength, good athletically.

So I'd rank him top 5 all time for the Pats.

he was .500 All time in the NFL. something like 75-75

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

My opinion: Brady, Grogan, Bledsoe, and Parilli are probably above Plunkett on the Patriots' list (I was too young to see Parilli so this one is based on what I heard from my Dad). Based on my own observations I'd take Plunkett before anyone else, with Eason the only other one I could see anyone making a case for.

This is based on what they did for the Patriots, not their overall careers. If you take the other parts of their careers into consideration, then its even stronger for Plunkett I think. I don't really remember him having a "bad" year for the Patriots, what I remember is him getting beat to a pulp behind an horrendous OL. When he was healthy and on his game he was pretty good; accurate passer, good decisionmaker, good arm strength, good athletically.

So I'd rank him top 5 all time for the Pats.

A rare accurate and useful Wiki bio, worth studying: Jim Plunkett - Wikipedia

His shoulder separation here was among the worst sports injuries I've ever seen, and that includes car crashes, Theisman's leg and Greer "Cat" Stevens' knee.

In terms of sheer talent, Jim's #1 on my Patriots' QB list. Tom worked and made himself the G.O.A.T., similarly to Bill Russell in basketball.

Plunkett played through pain not only worse than most pro athletes would, but when he really shouldn't have. He was compelled to try in SF; in this case, Mr. Davis was brilliant to pick him up and keep him.

I understand people depending on statistics for their evaluations of athletes; but there will always simply be much, much more to it than that.

Then, when statistics don't match up with people's beliefs on something, they make sweeping preposterous statements like Felger, who only today said: "Shut up about the Celtics of the Sixties. They played in a 'Mickey Mouse' league."

Why don't I pick up Michael Jordan and plunk him down in the NBA in 1965. He would poop his pants and go running home to his mommy, sobbing. No living like royalty, no Nike's, no media fawning, and when he hurts his knee it'll be fixed by 1964 doctors. He'll find out firsthand why shooting percentages were lower. He'll learn what "tough" really is. And no, he won't be as good as Elgin Baylor. Nothing personal.

On the other hand, David Stern's watered-down, insane 2-3-2 finals format cookie cutter league looks a lot more like...Mickey Mouse.

 

[mosslost]

A rare accurate and useful Wiki bio, worth studying: Jim Plunkett - Wikipedia

His shoulder separation here was among the worst sports injuries I've ever seen, and that includes car crashes, Theisman's leg and Greer "Cat" Stevens' knee.

In terms of sheer talent, Jim's #1 on my Patriots' QB list. Tom worked and made himself the G.O.A.T., similarly to Bill Russell in basketball.

Plunkett played through pain not only worse than most pro athletes would, but when he really shouldn't have. He was compelled to try in SF; in this case, Mr. Davis was brilliant to pick him up and keep him.

I understand people depending on statistics for their evaluations of athletes; but there will always simply be much, much more to it than that.

Then, when statistics don't match up with people's beliefs on something, they make sweeping preposterous statements like Felger, who only today said: "Shut up about the Celtics of the Sixties. They played in a 'Mickey Mouse' league."

Why don't I pick up Michael Jordan and plunk him down in the NBA in 1965. He would poop his pants and go running home to his mommy, sobbing. No living like royalty, no Nike's, no media fawning, and when he hurts his knee it'll be fixed by 1964 doctors. He'll find out firsthand why shooting percentages were lower. Hell learn what "tough" really is. And no, he won't be as good as Elgin Baylor. Nothing personal.

On the other hand, David Stern's watered-down, insane 2-3-2 finals format cookie cutter league looks a lot more like...Mickey Mouse.

You are quite simply ridiculous. And have no sports knowledge or common sense or feel for any of the sports.

 

[mosslost]

A rare accurate and useful Wiki bio, worth studying: Jim Plunkett - Wikipedia

His shoulder separation here was among the worst sports injuries I've ever seen, and that includes car crashes, Theisman's leg and Greer "Cat" Stevens' knee.

In terms of sheer talent, Jim's #1 on my Patriots' QB list. Tom worked and made himself the G.O.A.T., similarly to Bill Russell in basketball.

Plunkett played through pain not only worse than most pro athletes would, but when he really shouldn't have. He was compelled to try in SF; in this case, Mr. Davis was brilliant to pick him up and keep him.

I understand people depending on statistics for their evaluations of athletes; but there will always simply be much, much more to it than that.

Then, when statistics don't match up with people's beliefs on something, they make sweeping preposterous statements like Felger, who only today said: "Shut up about the Celtics of the Sixties. They played in a 'Mickey Mouse' league."

Why don't I pick up Michael Jordan and plunk him down in the NBA in 1965. He would poop his pants and go running home to his mommy, sobbing. No living like royalty, no Nike's, no media fawning, and when he hurts his knee it'll be fixed by 1964 doctors. He'll find out firsthand why shooting percentages were lower. Hell learn what "tough" really is. And no, he won't be as good as Elgin Baylor. Nothing personal.

On the other hand, David Stern's watered-down, insane 2-3-2 finals format cookie cutter league looks a lot more like...Mickey Mouse.

 

[Nikolai]

It kinda feels like a bye week in this forum...a lot of weird threads.

 

[Geezer Butler]

What's the motivation of this thread..

Obviously to start sh*t so OP can use all these gifs they saved up.

 

[Bruins29]

In terms of sheer talent, Jim's #1 on my Patriots' QB list.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

It kinda feels like a bye week in this forum...a lot of weird threads.

Well, the game isn't until Monday, so...

 

[Nikolai]

Well, the game isn't until Monday, so...

I was tempted to say I got it because it WAS the Rams (which I guess is like a bye) and then the Monday night game, but...well...yeah...

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I'm sorry, I really like Flutie too, it's nothing personal

 

[Bruins29]

I'm sorry, I really like Flutie too, it's nothing personal

Great but you arent talking about who you "like" You are making quntifying statements about QB talent. And I am sorry too. Posting on any public form that Jim Plunkett has more talent than Tom Brady makes you look like an imbecile.

Its nothing personal.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Great but you arent talking about who you "like" You are making quntifying statements about QB talent. And I am sorry too. Posting on any public form that Jim Plunkett has more talent than Tom Brady makes you look like an imbecile.

Its nothing personal.

Comparing anybody with Bill Russell is nothing but the highest of compliments.

Tom has great ability, but I don't think he has the same talent as Peyton for example, or Favre.

I do consider him the GOAT, which he achieved through hard work, determination, and character; overcoming imposing and what many would consider to be insurmountable obstacles, at every level. As an athlete, he is among the best role models ever, to me.

 

[Bruins29]

Tom has great ability, but I don't think he has the same talent as Peyton for example, or Favre.

Or Jim Plunkett apparently.

You are insane