Drew Bledsoe shows true colors

[QuiGon]

Either you liked him from beginning to end in NE or you hated him,make up your minds for gods sake.

This is an absolutely ridiculous statement for too many reasons to address in one post... but I will try anyway...

Fact of the matter is that I don't see anyone here that hates Drew Bledsoe. This is what the Bledsoe-krishnas do... if you dare utter one single negative thing about Drew, then you are someone who hates him, is bashing him, etc, etc.

But I have some bad news for you: I said the same things back then that I am saying now. Even when Bledsoe was here and even when the Patriots were a regular playoff team, a lot of us talked about how Bledsoe just doesn't have the passion or the commitment to the game that you see in so many others.

Now I admit I wasn't saying these things on draft day in 1993 because I didn't really know much about him. But as the years went by, it became increasingly obvious that the passion just wasn't there.

That ain't bashing. That ain't hating. That's just speaking the truth.

 

[ursa99]

BB told him Brady was the new starter....

 

[Deus Irae]

This is an absolutely ridiculous statement for too many reasons to address in one post... but I will try anyway...

Fact of the matter is that I don't see anyone here that hates Drew Bledsoe. This is what the Bledsoe-krishnas do... if you dare utter one single negative thing about Drew, then you are someone who hates him, is bashing him, etc, etc.

But I have some bad news for you: I said the same things back then that I am saying now. Even when Bledsoe was here and even when the Patriots were a regular playoff team, a lot of us talked about how Bledsoe just doesn't have the passion or the commitment to the game that you see in so many others.

Now I admit I wasn't saying these things on draft day in 1993 because I didn't really know much about him. But as the years went by, it became increasingly obvious that the passion just wasn't there.

That ain't bashing. That ain't hating. That's just speaking the truth.

No, it's bashing. Truth would involve facts, not opinions. For example, it's a fact that Bledsoe was playing with a pin in his finger.

 

[363839]

No, it's bashing. Truth would involve facts, not opinions. For example, it's a fact that Bledsoe was playing with a pin in his finger.

No it's really not just opinion. One of the things that Drew demanded in his rookie contract(Or so I've read)was that he IS the starter-end of story.
It is a fact that Drew did not and does not read defenses because he did not take the time to study film.

Again, no one is questioning Drews toughness.

 

[Deus Irae]

No it's really not just opinion. One of the things that Drew demanded in his rookie contract(Or so I've read)was that he IS the starter-end of story.
It is a fact that Drew did not and does not read defenses because he did not take the time to study film.

Again, no one is questioning Drews toughness.

Again, note the opinion being claimed to be fact.... Furthermore, you claim another item as fact without looking it up to verify it.

 

[Keegs]

BB told him Brady was the new starter....

that's not necessary. It makes you look like a real jerk.

All these people who hate and badmouth Bledsoe are only making it look like they are fair weather fans and only started watching after we won in 2001.

Knock off the crap, there is no reason to talk about Drew like that.

 

[RayClay]

Whether or not Joe Namath did or did not play big games with a hangover was not at all my point. But as long as you are defending him, I'm not really sure why. We do know that he is an admitted alcoholic, and who can forget the embarrassing moment at halftime of a Jets-Pats game on ESPN with Suzy Kolber? I know he has a problem, he knows he has a problem, and after that incident he checked himself into a rehab program and swore off the stuff. I have nothing but sympathy and hope he can beat the demon that bedevils him.

I'm not saying he doesn't have an alcohol problem, I'm saying people had a lot of fun in the 60's and he played up the image.

The implication is that he rolled out of bed in a stupor and won the super Bowl. I seriously doubt that.

He was a great quarterback who would have rewritten the record book, IMO, if not for two destroyed knees that they couldn't fix with non-invasive procedures like they can today.

I'm really glad I grew up in an era when you didn't have to apologize for having fun. He never got arrested or got in to any trouble at all, that i can recall.

He did enjoy some Johnny Walker and also escorted some of the finest examples of the female form the cosmic muffin produced up to that time.

Oh please Lord, I'm on my knees, forgive me for having fun.

As you give your confession, speak directly into the satellite, be on your best behavior on international phone calls, remove your shoes, put all your 3.2 ounce toiletries in a clear zip lock bag and beg the Lord to forgive you for all those impure thoughts.

You dirty bastahd.

 

[RayClay]

As long as we're being clairvoyant about Brady, here was my take/

"Why are we starting the 4th string quarterback ahead of Huarte?"

 

[QuiGon]

No, it's bashing.

No, it's not. If I wanted to bash Bledsoe, I would have brought up the Most Pit incident about 8 pages ago. Could you imagine Tom Brady being absolutely sh*t faced, out of his mind drunk on the front page of every local newspaper 5 days before a big road game..?

Truth would involve facts, not opinions.

Exactly. And it is a statement of fact - not an opinion - that the passion was simply lacking in Drew Bledsoe. Even the majority of his supporters in this thread are willing to concede that point.

 

[RayClay]

Plus Namath never stage dived on anybody.

 

[PromisedLand]

I'm not saying he doesn't have an alcohol problem, I'm saying people had a lot of fun in the 60's and he played up the image.

The implication is that he rolled out of bed in a stupor and won the super Bowl. I seriously doubt that.

He was a great quarterback who would have rewritten the record book, IMO, if not for two destroyed knees that they couldn't fix with non-invasive procedures like they can today.

I'm really glad I grew up in an era when you didn't have to apologize for having fun. He never got arrested or got in to any trouble at all, that i can recall.

He did enjoy some Johnny Walker and also escorted some of the finest examples of the female form the cosmic muffin produced up to that time.

Oh please Lord, I'm on my knees, forgive me for having fun.

As you give your confession, speak directly into the satellite, be on your best behavior on international phone calls, remove your shoes, put all your 3.2 ounce toiletries in a clear zip lock bag and beg the Lord to forgive you for all those impure thoughts.

You dirty bastahd.

That pretty much WAS my point, that times and attitudes were very different both in sports and in society at large, so if that WAS the example upstater was alluding to when he said, "I can name you some other QBs who didn't exactly live, eat and breathe football, like the guys who showed up for big games with hangovers. Some of these guys have Super Bowl rings." (in regard to Bledsoe's alleged lack of preparation) then it was not an apt example.

 

[363839]

Again, note the opinion being claimed to be fact.... Furthermore, you claim another item as fact without looking it up to verify it.

How many delay of games does Brady incur on his own team.
How many did Drew get?
Brady always goes to the LOS with plenty of time on the play clock left.
That's so he can assign blockers for the look the defense would give.
Too many times Drew took the offense to the LOS late so couldn't make adjustments if he wanted to. This is an indication of bad preparation. Not a fact, I'll admit. But pretty obvious, nevertheless.
I mean, I see this stuff with my own eyes. I do not need a link to wickipedia to figure it out.
Look deus irae, I don't hate Bledsoe. I'll always remember him as part of the reason the Pats are where they are today.
But remember, Tom Brady took the very same team that won 5 or 6 games from the previous season and lost 2 to start the next with DB under center and brought them a SB victory.

 

[RayClay]

That pretty much WAS my point, that times and attitudes were very different both in sports and in society at large, so if that WAS the example upstater was alluding to when he said, "I can name you some other QBs who didn't exactly live, eat and breathe football, like the guys who showed up for big games with hangovers. Some of these guys have Super Bowl rings." (in regard to Bledsoe's alleged lack of preparation) then it was not an apt example.

My point was, Namath liked to have a good time, but nobody worked harder.

Drew really didn't work to improve. For example, Namath had two bad knees and had to constantly work on his mobility to survive at all.

Drew had two good knees and liked to fish.

And Bill Lee sprinkled Pot on his wheaties, if you believe everything these guys told reporters.

I guess I'm saying a lot of guys worked hard and played hard. Brady doesn't seem like he spends his off hours at teaching Sunday School either, if you know what I mean.

 

[RayClay]

Promised Land,I understand your point, but I think Namath was a bad example. Jerry Rice was a contemporary of Bledsoe and no one worked harder to improve.

Larry Bird liked to drink and got into some scrapes, but no one worked harder to improve. Michael Jordan probably has a gambling problem, yet no one worked harder to improve.

A clean living image doesn't say much. Image is image.

 

[PromisedLand]

Promised Land,I understand your point, but I think Namath was a bad example. Jerry Rice was a contemporary of Bledsoe and no one worked harder to improve.

Larry Bird liked to drink and got into some scrapes, but no one worked harder to improve. Michael Jordan probably has a gambling problem, yet no one worked harder to improve.

A clean living image doesn't say much. Image is image.

I am sure you are right, and I don't think we're disagreeing, RC. I wasn't using Namath as an example of anything - I was just replying to upstater on the assumption that was the example HE was thinking of.

 

[RayClay]

I am sure you are right, and I don't think we're disagreeing, RC. I wasn't using Namath as an example of anything - I was just replying to upstater on the assumption that was the example HE was thinking of.

A lot of guys look like professional body builders these days and some use supplements that are hurting their bodies like HGH and steroids.

They're no doubt better conditioned on the whole.

However, in the old days a lot of players loaded trucks and such in the offseason and were as strong and tough as any players today.

Bottom line is, some players put in the time, certain players constantly worked to improve. Brady's the latter, Drew the former. He always showed up for practices, he just didn't do more preparation than was required.

Also take into account I am a cranky old bahstid who just lost his part time job (school) because of the incompetent Govt. and Library system in Tampa.

You're a real good poster and i appreciate you putting up with my mindless rant. When you watch the games, you get a sense of who's punching the clock and who the real pros are. Namath was the real deal.

Playing up the image was just a little joke on the generation gap at the time.

 

[Deus Irae]

How many delay of games does Brady incur on his own team.
How many did Drew get?
Brady always goes to the LOS with plenty of time on the play clock left.
That's so he can assign blockers for the look the defense would give.
Too many times Drew took the offense to the LOS late so couldn't make adjustments if he wanted to. This is an indication of bad preparation. Not a fact, I'll admit. But pretty obvious, nevertheless.
I mean, I see this stuff with my own eyes. I do not need a link to wickipedia to figure it out.
Look deus irae, I don't hate Bledsoe. I'll always remember him as part of the reason the Pats are where they are today.
But remember, Tom Brady took the very same team that won 5 or 6 games from the previous season and lost 2 to start the next with DB under center and brought them a SB victory.

That's the key. The rest is just a load of crap to justify bashing a player who doesn't deserve to be bashed.

 

[Iverson]

Who is this Drew Bledsoe guy?

 

[QuiGon]

Promised Land,I understand your point, but I think Namath was a bad example. Jerry Rice was a contemporary of Bledsoe and no one worked harder to improve.

I think Jerry Rice might have been one of the hardest working guys ever to play football. His greatness was on display every Sunday, but it was the offseason when there were no cameras around that made him so great. And he is 100% a class act.

 

[RayClay]

I think Jerry Rice might have been one of the hardest working guys ever to play football. His greatness was on display every Sunday, but it was the offseason when there were no cameras around that made him so great. And he is 100% a class act.

I'm not a Drew basher either. There are lots of very good players and few great ones. If you'd rather be fishing, you'll not get into the second category.

Drew was tough and gave his all on the field IMO. Even a dance class or agility drill in the off season and he might have made the hall. His choice.