Post Game Thread- Pats @ Jets

[SVN]

Oline needs to be addressed next season with serious talent. And I mean proven starts. Big, angry, tough a**holes that can command the trenches. Some have made the point "They were up against a great DLine!", which I don't discredit, but ask yourself, when is the last time Brady has had a SINGLE clean game where the Oline gave him time and didn't have him running around for his life? I can't remember one...

yes but the pats also never adjusted. brady wasnt his self and they dont seem to want to stick with the quick underneath passing game instead trying deep bombs. Even vs seattle which has a very good secondary.

 

[Gronkowski123]

so gronk could barely walk? but the patriots said he was fine.
im confused...

 

[TBR]

Yes, Rodney called him out and he looked putrid. He has completely given up on the Browns. I doubt he will be getting that big contract everyone thought he would get. Starting to think he blew his future.

Collins is an idiot. He could've stayed here, accept a reduced role, and get a solid contract in free agency.

Role players on winning teams like the Pats get paid very well in FA. And he'd be viewed far more than just a role player by other teams.

 

[PP2]

Seattle scored 5 runs against TB today.

I think you mean to say 5 points?

 

[fightingirish595]

Oline needs to be addressed next season with serious talent. And I mean proven starts. Big, angry, tough a**holes that can command the trenches. Some have made the point "They were up against a great DLine!", which I don't discredit, but ask yourself, when is the last time Brady has had a SINGLE clean game where the Oline gave him time and didn't have him running around for his life? I can't remember one...

I know you didn't say "WE need an O line like Dallas" but do you know how hard it is to build a line like that. They had a multi year plan to build that line. And they stuck with it, while hitting their draft picks

 

[HawaiianPatsfan]

Yes, Rodney called him out and he looked putrid. He has completely given up on the Browns. I doubt he will be getting that big contract everyone thought he would get. Starting to think he blew his future.

What if he comes back and turns it around like blount on a cheap contract. The tongue biting people would have to make around here would be all time legendary. lol

 

[TomPatriot]

I think you mean to say 5 points?

I was joking. They scored so little it was like they were the Seattle Mariners. The Seattle offense only scored 3 points.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

yes but the pats also never adjusted. brady wasnt his self and they dont seem to want to stick with the quick underneath passing game instead trying deep bombs. Even vs seattle which has a very good secondary.

brady's lob passes haven't been working at times

 

[PatriotsPimp136]

so gronk could barely walk? but the patriots said he was fine.
im confused...

That's scary. Back. Ughhhh. I rather it was something else

 

[Gronkowski123]

That's scary. Back. Ughhhh. I rather it was something else

why would the pats say he was alright and there was nothing to worry about?? if that was the case, then gronk could of returned.

i dont blame gronk/his family for not trusting the pats..

 

[fightingirish595]

That's scary. Back. Ughhhh. I rather it was something else

The guy already has already messed up a knee arm and back. Thats atleast 3 different parts of his body he has severely fu!!ed up

 

[Satchboogie3]

I know you didn't say "WE need an O line like Dallas" but do you know how hard it is to build a line like that. They had a multi year plan to build that line. And they stuck with it, while hitting their draft picks

I know it's not easy, but it's been 9 years of the same ****. And in terms of stats. Brady was near to most pressured of all QBs last year with pressure on over 32% of his snaps and about 21% of those end up in a sack (not good). Considering how elusive he is in the pocket, that just points to how awful the O-line is.

It has to be a priority because of how vital it is. Brady is now 39. He can't keep running for his life and getting hit 25 times a game. Without an O-line, the offense can't do anything. An O-line can make average receiver look like All-Pros when they give Brady time to find them. They can open huge holes for JAG backs. But behind a crappy O-line, even NFL legend backs aren't going to be able to do anything and your mid-to-deep plays can't develop, even when you have Randy Freaking Moss.

 

[fnordcircle]

Perspective.

This Bennett idiot doesn't get it. Anything less than a 20 point win and defensive shutout is a trash outing.

God, I wish I was a Seahawks fan.

 

[SVN]

why would the pats say he was alright and there was nothing to worry about?? if that was the case, then gronk could of returned.

i dont blame gronk/his family for not trusting the pats..

Did pats say that ? was it announced by BB he is alright and nothing to worry about ?

 

[TomPatriot]

Yes, Rodney called him out and he looked putrid. He has completely given up on the Browns. I doubt he will be getting that big contract everyone thought he would get. Starting to think he blew his future.

I saw much of the game. Rodney was right. No one plays contain on Eli, so Collins was just loafing on a blitz in the 2Q. He stayed blocked on at least one running play, unlike HT or Roberts, who sometimes get beat but never from lack of effort. He looked much better against the Steelers.

 

[long distance]

Oline needs to be addressed next season with serious talent. And I mean proven starts. Big, angry, tough a**holes that can command the trenches. Some have made the point "They were up against a great DLine!", which I don't discredit, but ask yourself, when is the last time Brady has had a SINGLE clean game where the Oline gave him time and didn't have him running around for his life? I can't remember one...

 

[Satchboogie3]

yes but the pats also never adjusted. brady wasnt his self and they dont seem to want to stick with the quick underneath passing game instead trying deep bombs. Even vs seattle which has a very good secondary.

I agree that Brady was off, but part of the problem is that a QB is going to be put 'off' when he doesn't have time to go to his 2nd or 3rd reads in his progression. A big problem today was they were covering his 1st read/hot read, but he just didn't have time to move on through his reads because the pressure was already in his face. I'm not giving him a complete pass, but he needs a little time.

 

[PP2]

brady's lob passes haven't been working at times

To be fair, throwing the lob on a fade route with a 5'11 receiver is compounding the issue- that's a degree of difficulty that wasn't really necessary.

 

[Koma]

"Now we go to Dan Shaughnessy for his thoughts on today's game. Dan, how concerned should we be about this Patriots team going forward?"

 

[fightingirish595]

I know it's not easy, but it's been 9 years of the same ****. And in terms of stats. Brady was near to most pressured of all QBs last year with pressure on over 32% of his snaps and about 21% of those end up in a sack (not good). Considering how elusive he is in the pocket, that just points to how awful the O-line is.

It has to be a priority because of how vital it is. Brady is now 39. He can't keep running for his life and getting hit 25 times a game. Without an O-line, the offense can't do anything. An O-line can make average receiver look like All-Pros when they give Brady time to find them. They can open huge holes for JAG backs. But behind a crappy O-line, even NFL legend backs aren't going to be able to do anything and your mid-to-deep plays can't develop, even when you have Randy Freaking Moss.

I cant really argue with your points, but our defense in 2014 was filled with first and second round picks. I thibk the unit is good enough personally