McCourty shuts down the idea of Brady being a System QB

[Soul_Survivor88]

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“Everybody knows [his] legend. His game speaks for itself."

Amen brother

 

[ViperGTS]

“Everybody knows [his] legend. His game speaks for itself."

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Saw a snap of this yesterday. Man, this only fuels them. Brady a system QB.

Go ask Martellus' bro if Bradys a system QB.

 

[farn]

Brady with Marty + Gronk in a few weeks makes me feel nice inside.

 

[nabwong]

Brady
+
Marty - Gronk
+
Edelman - Ammendola - Hogan - Mitchell
+
Dion

ohhhhh myyyy.

 

[StockingAnarchyNumber12]

Awwwwwwwww yeaaaaaah!

 

[TBR]

People act as if Brissett threw for 300+ yards and 3 TDs. He didn't - he threw for around 100 and 0 TDs.

2 of his biggest contributions came on runs - not even something a part of the offense Brady runs.

Let's be real, the Pats won that game due to defense and special teams.

As for Garoppolo, the guy has studied the offense for 3 years and was a 2nd round draft pick. It's not very surprising that he looked good. Although it was only 6 quarters. Brian Hoyer looked good for at least 6 quarters as the Browns QB not too long to. Nick Foles, RG3 and more did it for full seasons and look where they are now.

Also, this receiving corps (WRs and TEs) is top 3 in the league - easily. Not to mention Blount, who should be top 3-5 in rushing yards after tomorrow. (#1 now although that's due to the extra game)

Brissett and Garoppolo could definitely be successful starters in this league - but it will have nothing to do with a system that automatically makes them good.

 

[Fencer]

Also, this receiving corps (WRs and TEs) is top 3 in the league - easily.

Without Gronk? It's certainly deep -- among Edelman, Hogan, Amendola, and Bennett, who is the 4th-best guy? And Mitchell is a fine #5.

That said, I can't quickly name 3 that I'd say are better ...

 

[Wax Frog]

Brady
+
Marty - Gronk
+
Edelman - Ammendola - Hogan - Mitchell
+
Dion

ohhhhh myyyy.

 

[RobertWeathers]

How is this even a reasonable topic of conversation? Jimmy G has a 6 good quarters and now people think QBs here are plug n play?

 

[BradyFTW!]

Anyone who can look at the 2001, 2004, 2007, and 2011 offenses and conclude that the guy who excelled in all of them is a 'system' QB is just dumb, plain and simple. Mostly because those 5 offenses are radically different, featuring radically different personnel, philosophies, positions of emphasis, areas that they like to attack, etc. Brady has excelled in a ball control offense, a dink and dunk offense, a shotgun spread offense that bombs downfield, a 2 TE base offense that attacks the seams, etc. You could probably argue that half the reason why the Pats have been able to evolve their personnel and base strategy so much is precisely because Brady isn't tied to one specific style. He's good in pretty much any passing offense, provided that you aren't doing something super dumb like asking him to roll out all the time or run the read option or some other similar fad.

This is why you'll never see Brady being a slightly above average QB for a whole year like Rodgers has been, solely because his favorite receiver got hurt and the Packers are unwilling/unable to adapt. That's the kind of inflexibility that you'd expect to see in a 'system' team. The Pats, OTOH, are the opposite. And in Rodgers' case, he can play his entire career in the same exact offense, an offense in which his backup can come in and throw for 500 yards and 6 TDs in that offense, but nobody has ever claimed he's a system QB. Which is good, because he's not, but it's even more ridiculous to claim that Brady is. And Manning can be so married to his ideal offense that Gary Kubiak had to basically throw out his playbook and use Peyton's to get anything at all out of the guy, but somehow nobody suggests he's a system QB either. Only Brady, despite the fact that Brady has proven far more scheme-versatile than either of them.

 

[Gronk]

Without Gronk? It's certainly deep -- among Edelman, Hogan, Amendola, and Bennett, who is the 4th-best guy? And Mitchell is a fine #5.

That said, I can't quickly name 3 that I'd say are better ...

Gronk is the best TE or WR in the league and is the heavyweight that tips the scales for the Pats skill group, but I think you could argue that other teams have 2-3 guys who are seen as "better" in the eyes of most, as in those players have physical measurables and skill sets with more widespread appeal to other teams. E.g. Hurns & Robinson in JAX, Fitz/Floyd/Brown in AZ, even (despite Thursday) Hopkins/Fuller in HOU. If the money was the same (and it's not, which is a big part of the reason Bill has run the WR group the way he has for 15 years), I think we'd all take a long, hard look at a straight up trade of Edelman and Amendola for any 2 of those WR. Most of us would do it, even though it probably wouldn't turn into a net gain in catches, yards, TDs, or overall value from those players.

Overall I don't think anyone is anywhere close to as deep as Gronk/Bennett/Edelman/Hogan/Dola, of course accounting for the fact that playing in a system that allows them to succeed as role players and playing with Brady (and with JG filling in admirably) instead of someone less good helps a ton. Gronk would be a beast anywhere, but what Hogan did in BUF (or say, Cole Beasley in DAL as a JE comp) is probably about the ceiling production-wise for these other guys elsewhere. On teams that SUCK. Not that we as fans are immune to being swayed by the prevailing league-wide analysis of receivers - because Amendola didn't put up WWW numbers here as expected, every year everyone always wants to cut him and trade for Larry Fitzgerald or Megatron.

Back to the point of the topic yeah, Brady is a system QB, if the system is constantly winning for approaching 2 straight decades.

 

[PatriotsReign]

This gif needs to be in slow mo....

 

[ausbacker]

How is this even a reasonable topic of conversation? Jimmy G has a 6 good quarters and now people think QBs here are plug n play?

Mate, seriously, shut up would you. Have you learnt nothing in your observation of the Patriots. Let the detractors continue to fan the flames. In fact, provide them with a lifetime supply of kerosene bottles.

In all honesty, you'd think the idiots in the media, by now, should understand the Patriots live to be slighted. It's remarkable that, for the sake of ratings, they continually fall into the trap.