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This analysis had not yet appeared when the long, thoughtful thread on Tarik Glenn's retirement drifted away.
As usual from this source, it is thought-provoking.


By Jonathan Comey
Cold, Hard Football Facts

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But the biggest news of the NFL offseason took place Tuesday night, and it had absolutely nothing to do with the lithe but beleaguered Michael Vick. It had everything to do with a 330-pound All-Pro who may well have altered the balance of power in the AFC.

Indianapolis left tackle Tarik Glenn retired at the peak of his career Tuesday, citing a lack of passion for the game. The story was buried below the Tour de France by the time the overnight news cycle rolled around, ....

But Glenn’s decision will have more effect on the 2007 season than any other event that happened this summer, ....

The Colts’ loss of Glenn, on the other hand, should be a major shift in the AFC, a/k/a the annual home of Super Bowl champions. Indy suffered four key defensive losses in the offseason, which would be troubling if they didn’t suffer similar losses every season. And every season, Bill Polian proves to be the best hole-filler in the game – while other teams talk about “best athlete available,” he looks for needs and satisfies them.

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The Colts haven’t had much of a need on offense since using a series of high picks to assemble their incredible (and well-paid) offensive core – Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne. Edgerrin James, then Joseph Addai.

And throughout it all, Tarik Glenn at left tackle. But no more.

For the 31-year-old Glenn, coming off three Pro Bowls in a row and a Super Bowl title, he’s one of the few that’s getting out of the game at his peak. There is speculation that it’s part of a contract ploy (he has one year left on a relatively low-paying deal), but more likely, it’s the end of a career for a key cog on a great team.

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For the Colts, it's not so great.

Of Manning’s 144 career starts, Glenn was protecting his blind side on 138 of them. And blindsided is something Manning has never been – he’s been sacked 170 times in 3,301 pass attempts, or once every 19.41 dropbacks. Manning’s sack stats are even better than those of tidy Tom Brady, who’s been sacked once every 17.83 dropbacks in his Patriots career – and how often do you see tufts of grass stuck in Brady's helmet?

A sack every 20 attempts or so is an elite number, and one that speaks to the quality of the left tackle, as well as the quarterback.

Just last year, the Chiefs lost left tackle Willie Roaf to a similarly timed retirement, and took a major turn for the worse. They went from allowing a sack every 16.84 dropbacks to once every 11.96 – a major difference. They also went from averaging 4.58 yards a carry on the ground to 4.18 without Roaf, and dropped from 1st to 15th in total yards.

Roaf is just one example, but it doesn’t take Cold, Hard Football Facts to guess that a franchise left tackle ain’t easy to replace. There has been a left tackle drafted in the top 5 overall in six of the last eight drafts – lofty territory, and a place where only pass rushers, game-breakers and QBs usually tread.

In other words, not easy to replace.

However, the Colts are never truly unprepared for change. Polian had hints of a Glenn retirement after the Super Bowl win, and Indy drafted tackle Tony Ugoh in the second round. In addition, the Colts have veteran Ryan Diem available to switch from right tackle and second-year man Charlie Johnson to compete with Ugoh.

Still, it’s no easy fix. Left tackle is one of the highest-paid positions in football, and Glenn was a three-time Pro Bowler who probably should have gone more often over his last eight seasons. By definition, the starting left tackle for one of the most dominant offenses in NFL history has simply got to be playing Pro Bowl football just about every season.

In 2006, he was at his best. Manning was sacked 14 times for a total of 86 yards, both the best numbers in the league. And according to SI.com, the Colts rushed for an average of 4.8 yards a carry to the left side, a significant upgrade over their 4.0 per carry overall.

In 2003, Glenn missed time for the only time in his 10-year career, six games in midseason. The Colts went 3-3 without him and 9-1 with him.

But Glenn’s greatest measure of success can be told by the number zero – as in, how many games Manning missed due to injury with Glenn protecting his left side.

Manning is one of the best ever in the pocket, but just as Michael Jordan never won without Scottie Pippen, Manning will have to see how he fares without big ol' No. 78 protecting his back.

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http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=1510
 
Maybe he'll "unretire" after training camp, citing a renewed passion for the game. I seem to remember a lot of guys from HS and College who had a "Passion for the game", until double sessions, that is...

They were always effective at testing the level of dedication of a player.
 
Tarik Glenn is not going to retire. He's just a vet trying to skip 2 a days and squeeze some more cash from the Colts.
 
As much as I would love to believe this it seems like one of those "OMG the sky is falling!" knee jerk reactions that the media loves expressing......
 
As much as I would love to believe this it seems like one of those "OMG the sky is falling!" knee jerk reactions that the media loves expressing......

Exactly. The effect of Glenn's departure, while large, does not necessarily mean the end of the Colt's season. Charlie Johnson played beautifully in the Super-Bowl when Ryan Diem got hurt so if they decide to move Diem to the left side, Johnson and Ugoh should be able to handle the right side. If that happens, I think I'd be more worried about the left side than I would be the right side. Diem's been, IMO, inconsistent during his time in Indy. Then again, he's a FA after this year so, we should get his best effort.

Personally, I think Tarik's done for good. He just doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would retire just to miss TC. JMO.
 
Exactly. The effect of Glenn's departure, while large, does not necessarily mean the end of the Colt's season. Charlie Johnson played beautifully in the Super-Bowl when Ryan Diem got hurt so if they decide to move Diem to the left side, Johnson and Ugoh should be able to handle the right side. If that happens, I think I'd be more worried about the left side than I would be the right side. Diem's been, IMO, inconsistent during his time in Indy. Then again, he's a FA after this year so, we should get his best effort.

Personally, I think Tarik's done for good. He just doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would retire just to miss TC. JMO.

Dude, don't make light of it - your team is weakened if you do lose Tarik Glenn. That will be your biggest loss from last year to this, without question. The man has always been awesome - he is a probowler and as such, not easily replaced at all.
 
Of course it doesn't mean the end of the season. DUH. But it's a big loss. Not a HUGE loss like Harrison or Wayne would be but you don't lose a rock solid LT, especially in an offense that makes a lot of adjustments at the line, without it being a big loss.
 
The effect of Glenn's departure, while large, does not necessarily mean the end of the Colt's season. Charlie Johnson played beautifully in the Super-Bowl when Ryan Diem got hurt so if they decide to move Diem to the left side, Johnson and Ugoh should be able to handle the right side. If that happens, I think I'd be more worried about the left side than I would be the right side. Diem's been, IMO, inconsistent during his time in Indy. Then again, he's a FA after this year so, we should get his best effort.

Personally, I think Tarik's done for good. He just doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would retire just to miss TC. JMO.

Yeah... and regardless, its not like Left Tackle is a very important position anyway.
 
Tarik Glenn is not going to retire. He's just a vet trying to skip 2 a days and squeeze some more cash from the Colts.
Pro Football Talk says it's a done deal :

"Even as some of the assorted sock puppets continue to report (and you know who you are) that the Colts are still trying to persuade left tackle Tarik Glenn to change his mind about retiring, the door to a return is slammed shut.

Per a league source, the Colts already have placed Glenn on reserve/retired list, which means that he cannot play at all in 2007, for any team."
 
The fine folks at CHFF had a cow last year when Edge left too. How'd that work out?
Keep laughing off losses if you like. You can't keep losing good players with no drop off - good luck with this.
 
Keep laughing off losses if you like. You can't keep losing good players with no drop off - good luck with this.

Oh, I know its a big loss and I hope we can manage without him. I just don't think its the end of the world, thats all.
 
As good as Tarik is, his loss won't be the end of the world, Howard Mudd is what truley makes that line
 
Pro Football Talk says it's a done deal :

"Even as some of the assorted sock puppets continue to report (and you know who you are) that the Colts are still trying to persuade left tackle Tarik Glenn to change his mind about retiring, the door to a return is slammed shut.

Per a league source, the Colts already have placed Glenn on reserve/retired list, which means that he cannot play at all in 2007, for any team."

Wow, shocking if true. Glenn's only 31. Still, not sure it's that significant a loss. I've never been that impressed with the Colts O-line. Peyton's so good that he makes them look better than they are.
 
Isn't it amazing how the Patriots loose guys like Vinatieri, McGinest, Branch, and Givens and everyone was calling gloom and doom. The Colts, they lose Glenn, Cato June, Domenic Rhodes, Mike Doss, Nick Harper, and everything is going to be ROSEY and they won't miss a beat? People are smoking some serious weed if they believe that.

Last year, Addai was able to stay healthy because he wasn't running as much in the 2nd half of games. It remains to be seen how he'll do this year.

As for Ryan Diem, don't be so sure he can make the switch to the left side. If they even attempt that.

How many snaps did Johnson get in the SB. Half a dozen maybe? And you think that you can make an effective judgement on how he'll do over the course of the season based on that?

As for Glenn, its interesting that Addai rushed 72 times to the left side of the Colts line and picked up 408 yards. That's 5.6 yards per carry. He was only able to get 287 yards on 81 rushes to the right side for only 3.5 yards per carry. That tells me that Glenn was a very damn good run blocker over there. He WILL be missed. And it will show in Addai's stats to that side.
 
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Isn't it amazing how the Patriots loose guys like Vinatieri, McGinest, Branch, and Givens and everyone was calling gloom and doom. The Colts, they lose Glenn, Cato June, Domenic Rhodes, Mike Doss, Nick Harper, and everything is going to be ROSEY and they won't miss a beat? People are smoking some serious weed if they believe that.
Thew gloom and doom people were flat out wrong. They busted on the Oh-my-God-the-Pats-lost-blahblah year after year after year, starting with Lawyer Milloy.

Nd things DID turn out Rosey in 2003, 2004, and except for a couple blips, could have been rosey in 2005 and 2006 also.

As long as backups step, the Colts will be okay. The biggest problem I see is that they lost so many starters, there are a lot of backups who have to be good. If two or three miss, then there will be trouble.
 
Isn't it amazing how the Patriots loose guys like Vinatieri, McGinest, Branch, and Givens and everyone was calling gloom and doom. The Colts, they lose Glenn, Cato June, Domenic Rhodes, Mike Doss, Nick Harper, and everything is going to be ROSEY and they won't miss a beat? People are smoking some serious weed if they believe that.

Last year, Addai was able to stay healthy because he wasn't running as much in the 2nd half of games. It remains to be seen how he'll do this year.

As for Ryan Diem, don't be so sure he can make the switch to the left side. If they even attempt that.

How many snaps did Johnson get in the SB. Half a dozen maybe? And you think that you can make an effective judgement on how he'll do over the course of the season based on that?

As for Glenn, its interesting that Addai rushed 72 times to the left side of the Colts line and picked up 408 yards. That's 5.6 yards per carry. He was only able to get 287 yards on 81 rushes to the right side for only 3.5 yards per carry. That tells me that Glenn was a very damn good run blocker over there. He WILL be missed. And it will show in Addai's stats to that side.

Maybe Ugoh, whom they drafted to eventually replace Glenn, will be the guy at LT before the season is over. He was a standout run blocker in college.
 
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Thew gloom and doom people were flat out wrong. They busted on the Oh-my-God-the-Pats-lost-blahblah year after year after year, starting with Lawyer Milloy.

Nd things DID turn out Rosey in 2003, 2004, and except for a couple blips, could have been rosey in 2005 and 2006 also.

As long as backups step, the Colts will be okay. The biggest problem I see is that they lost so many starters, there are a lot of backups who have to be good. If two or three miss, then there will be trouble.

I think the problem with the Colts this season will be the time it takes to successfully integrate new faces. It could cost them a few games early in the year, which would put them in the Wild Card group again.
 
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Maybe Ugoh, whom they drafted to eventually replace Glenn, will be the guy at LT before the season is over. He is a very solid run blocker.

Could be.... but will Addai, Dorsey and Chapman be able to be productive enough to not harm the Colts passing game. If Addai, Dorsey and Chapman are only getting 3.5 YPC, then that puts a lot more pressure on the Colts passing game.

Of course, the Colts could make the passing game an even BIGGER focus and use it to try and open up the run, but that didn't work to well for the Pats in 2002 or 2005. And it hasn't worked to well for many teams who've tried to do that.
 
Of course, the Colts could make the passing game an even BIGGER focus and use it to try and open up the run, but that didn't work to well for the Pats in 2002 or 2005. And it hasn't worked to well for many teams who've tried to do that.


There haven't been many teams in NFL history to have a offense like the colts. Not gloating or anything but if any team could use that strategy successfully it's the colts
 
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