Big Ben Gives Big Props

[AtomicDawg]

Says "Brady is the best QB in the world".



He was also supportive of TB during You Know What.

 

[Froob]

I really wish he wasn't a POS off the field so I could like him.

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

They'd never do it, but if you've seen "The Hunger Games" when the people in the districts give the "2 finger salute" for the hero(ine) of the movie, it's be great if fans did it with both hands to indicate 1 & 2 for good old #12.

 

[Big Bucks]

I see the media lining up its next.. Brady v who is better discussion now Manning has gone to his couch with his hands down his pants scratching his balls whilst a family pack of doritos is shared around with no one.

 

[Froob]

I see the media lining up its next.. Brady v who is better discussion now Manning has gone to his couch with his hands down his pants scratching his balls whilst a family pack of doritos is shared around with no one.

Is it crazy to say Flacco is the best in the playoffs after Brady? Hard not to take Rodgers but, Flacco plays out of his mind in the playoffs.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Is it crazy to say Flacco is the best in the playoffs after Brady? Hard not to take Rodgers but, Flacco plays out of his mind in the playoffs.

Small sample size and run-first offense that always elite protection. Let Eli Manning and Joe Flacco play 25 playoff games each and then you'll see they are the same exact players who just happened to have some big and "clutch" games when the spotlight was on. In fact,

Would anyone really take Joe Flacco as their second choice in a playoff game? Just like a few years ago when there were better "championship performers" than LeBron James? It's all just a bunch of nonsense with a few exceptions of guys who are truly different players, usually for the worse, like Peyton Manning. Remember when Mark Sanchez was also a great "playoff performer?" Same things - great defense, run-first offense, and most importantly, tiny sample size.

You can have Flacco in the playoffs, and I'll take Roethlisberger, Brees, Wilson, or a handful of better players.

 

[Rusty Coupe]

“As I’ve evolved I’ve been able to recognize and read defenses, change a play if necessary,” Roethlisberger says. “I’ve gotten comfortable enough in this offense that it even gets down to, Okay, I’m looking at this safety. What’s he doing? What are his eyes telling me? I think that’s just the comfort level with our offense that I can afford to do that.”

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“I think when I was doing the pump fakes early in my career, it was an attempt tothrow the ball,” he says with a laugh. “The throw’s not there, so it turns out looking like a great pump fake. But as you get older, as you understand defenses and your offense, you utilize it [as a weapon]. I want to continue to get better [with all of these physical passing nuances], so I watch Tom and Drew and Aaron and some of those guys to see, Okay what’s something little they do that maybe I can do with my game? That’s how you’re always improving.”

Like Brady and Brees, Roethlisberger’s command both pre- and post-snap has led to an influx in empty backfield formations for his offense. You frequently see the Steelers spread into a 3x2 set with nobody but the QB in the backfield.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/08/23/...s-ben-roethlisberger-most-evolved-quarterback

 

[Wheelman]

Big Ben also wants people to realize that the amount of Lombardi's you win is what determines how good of a QB you were.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Is it crazy to say Flacco is the best in the playoffs after Brady? Hard not to take Rodgers but, Flacco plays out of his mind in the playoffs.

Nope. Hes won and in his last 10 games his numbers are pretty damn good and hes 7-3 and they should have beaten NE........but they didn't

 

[BobDigital]

Well I am happy Brady has Ben's approval. Though I did notice Ben named Brady the best QB in the world without getting consent from him to do so... That's so Ben!

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I saw a Steelers writer also say this offseason that "at this stage in Brady's career", Ben is a better QB. Really? Who on earth outside of Pittsburgh could possibly say a guy is the best when last season he threw more INTs in 12 games (16) than any full season of Brady's career, and that is despite having the best wide receiving corps in the NFL. I actually like Ben Roethlisberger; as a QB, he is the real deal, but come on!

Aaron Rodgers went 34:8 last season and Tom Brady 36:7. Roethlisberger 21:16. When the two most obvious numbers (TDs, INTs) are that dramatically far away, you don't even get into deeper discussions about different offenses, etc. And of the Packers, Patriots, and Steelers in 2015, there's zero doubt the Steelers had far superior weapons even with Bell's injuries.

Roethlisberger is a really good QB. He is the guy that the media tries so desperately to make Eli Manning into, someone who can consistently carry a team on his shoulders and win a lot of games on his own. He is just not Brady or Rodgers...probably the very next level.

 

[letekro]

Nope. Hes won and in his last 10 games his numbers are pretty damn good and hes 7-3 and they should have beaten NE........but they didn't

His career playoff passer rating is 88.6 and Manning's is 87.4. Manning's was in the 90s before he had the nerve problems. Brady's is 88. We all saw Manning struggle against those great early 2000s Patriot defenses. And he has had some clunkers since then. But the overall individual performance of the three is not far off, certainly not enough to justify the patsfans perception of Brady as godlike in the playoffs, Flacco as solid, and Manning as terrible. Some of that is bias, but some of it is the Super Boel performances. To be fair to Manning, 2 of those were post nerve damage and the other was played in a monsoon.

 

[Deus Irae]

Still the same top 5 (well, 4 with the Fivehead having retired)... :

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger

That's been a static group for years. This is the first time in a long time that we enter a season knowing with certainty that one of them (Fivehead) doesn't belong. So it will be interesting to see who joins the club this year.

 

[Deus Irae]

His career playoff passer rating is 88.6 and Manning's is 87.4. Manning's was in the 90s before he had the nerve problems. Brady's is 88. We all saw Manning struggle against those great early 2000s Patriot defenses. And he has had some clunkers since then. But the overall individual performance of the three is not far off, certainly not enough to justify the patsfans perception of Brady as godlike in the playoffs, Flacco as solid, and Manning as terrible.

If we measured everything only in QB rating, you'd be dead on with that assessment. Since we don't, you're high on crack.

 

[ExpatPack]

Still the same top 5 (well, 4 with the Fivehead having retired)... :

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger

That's been a static group for years. This is the first time in a long time that we enter a season knowing with certainty that one of them (Fivehead) doesn't belong. So it will be interesting to see who joins the club this year.

Russell Wilson should get serious consideration for #5. Still a bit young, but if he has another great season this year then yes.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Russell Wilson should get serious consideration for #5. Still a bit young, but if he has another great season this year then yes.

Its Wilson. The throw to Malcolm should not sway that assessment. Hes won in the reg season. Hes won in the playoffs. He has a title. Hes has the stats. Plus with his running he adds another offensive dimension to the position.

He deserves it,IMO.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Still the same top 5 (well, 4 with the Fivehead having retired)... :

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger

That's been a static group for years. This is the first time in a long time that we enter a season knowing with certainty that one of them (Fivehead) doesn't belong. So it will be interesting to see who joins the club this year.

Russell Wilson. Spare me the "system" and defense arguments. They said the same thing about Tom Brady during his first few years. Wilson is a winner, and his elite stats didn't come from handing the ball off.

106 TDs, 34 INTs.

He is a star even without the rushing yards, and he isn't someone who typically scrambles because he misses better options.

 

[Tuck]

Still the same top 5 (well, 4 with the Fivehead having retired)... :

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger

That's been a static group for years. This is the first time in a long time that we enter a season knowing with certainty that one of them (Fivehead) doesn't belong. So it will be interesting to see who joins the club this year.

Solid list but at this point I'd put Newton in the third spot.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Still the same top 5 (well, 4 with the Fivehead having retired)... :

Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Roethlisberger

That's been a static group for years. This is the first time in a long time that we enter a season knowing with certainty that one of them (Fivehead) doesn't belong. So it will be interesting to see who joins the club this year.

All of them can scorch defenses with remarkable consistency. The difference between the first two and second two: they can do it while turning the ball over a lot less, which just happens to be the biggest correlation with winning in pro football.

 

[IllegalContact]

like him or not, Newton deserves to be ahead of Wilson