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@AtomicDawg: the f—kup at the end of the Argentina game was far worse than Ebner's missed kick here. The US wasn't expected to beat Fiji. They should have beaten ARG.

I agree. The fact they lost by 5 should make everyone proud. They have consolation games left but it was a valiant effort here.
 
But isn't that what Fiji just did to end the game? Sorry to be obstinate, just trying to understand the rules.

I believe kicking it out there would have been a ***** move. You've got the ball, move it down the field and score. It would be a pretty bad message to send to your players. It's not like kneeling on the ball to end the half, you expect to get it ended on something other than your opponent's try. At least that's what my newbie brain is telling me.
 
Reality check

Best Fiji athletes go to Rugby - and you can see that from a mile.
In USA rugby gets low string athletes for the moment. That makes it a tough call.
Ebner is not a rugby player, he is not even top football player - and he looked one of the best in US team.
 
Reality check

Best Fiji athletes go to Rugby - and you can see that from a mile.
In USA rugby gets low string athletes for the moment. That makes it a tough call.
Ebner is not a rugby player, he is not even top football player - and he looked one of the best in US team.

He's not a professional rugby player, but he started at a young age, and was actually the youngest US national rugby player ever.
 
Best Fiji athletes go to Rugby - and you can see that from a mile.

Not just that, but they target sevens as opposed to the 15 man version.

I didn't watch it but bad luck y'all. GB beat NZ which was a turn up. Fingers crossed for a medal.
 
I believe kicking it out there would have been a ***** move. You've got the ball, move it down the field and score. It would be a pretty bad message to send to your players. It's not like kneeling on the ball to end the half, you expect to get it ended on something other than your opponent's try. At least that's what my newbie brain is telling me.

I can see that. The US also had a man advantage at the start of that "final play," so I don't have a problem with them being aggressive. The problem was, they got driven back about 25 meters from where they started. I wouldn't have had any problem with the US kicking it out of bounds at that point and have the half end in a tie.

Of course, that was an easy decision for me to make, sitting on my couch, and not being on the field being chased by Fijians.
 
Missed the game due to having to fix my wife's grandmother's house phone..

I have to put the loss on the coach. I said it yesterday after the loss to Argentina. Ebner brings a whole different level of intensity to the team when he's on the field. And the other players react to it. It was night and day difference.. And it was proven again in the game against Brazil when they had Ebner on the field to start the game.

The US needs more high intensity players like Ebner. Hughes is good for kicks.
 
Missed the game due to having to fix my wife's grandmother's house phone..

I have to put the loss on the coach. I said it yesterday after the loss to Argentina. Ebner brings a whole different level of intensity to the team when he's on the field. And the other players react to it. It was night and day difference.. And it was proven again in the game against Brazil when they had Ebner on the field to start the game.

The US needs more high intensity players like Ebner. Hughes is good for kicks.

I'd say between Ebner, Carlin and Danny, those are the only three you can count on to bring tenacity and fear into the opponent in every scrum. Others I'm not so certain.
 
Get off our red, white and blue lawn!

'merica!

What colours are these then...oops, I meant colors.

 
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