Oliver goes to Chargers

[dryheat44]

According to PFT in the 4th...


A league source tells us that the San Diego Chargers have selected cornerback Paul Oliver in round four of the supplemental draft.

The process is now in round five.

Stay tuned.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

If he becomes half the player Jamal Williams became, it will be a great move for the chargers.

I will say this about Oliver, I know he only ran 4.55 or so he is much better in zone than man which makes his lack of spped a little less observable and he has great ball skills. He blew a few assignments last year and really seemed lost out there at times, but again if the ball is in his zip code, he'll track it.

 

[dryheat44]

If he becomes half the player Jamal Williams became, it will be a great move for the chargers.

I will say this about Oliver, I know he only ran 4.55 or so he is much better in zone than man which makes his lack of spped a little less observable and he has great ball skills. He blew a few assignments last year and really seemed lost out there at times, but again if the ball is in his zip code, he'll track it.

Yeah. I think he'll be a fine zone corner or free safety.

 

[dryheat44]

And the Ravens get Gaither in the fifth.

 

[Clonamery]

No one else taken.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/10254491

 

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If he becomes half the player Jamal Williams became, it will be a great move for the chargers.

I will say this about Oliver, I know he only ran 4.55 or so he is much better in zone than man which makes his lack of spped a little less observable and he has great ball skills. He blew a few assignments last year and really seemed lost out there at times, but again if the ball is in his zip code, he'll track it.

lack of speed is false. hes not a true burner but hes a legit 4.4 guy

yes he ran a 4.5-4.6 but he had to lose 15 pounds to get back into working out because he was too busy trying to improve his grades

 

[jcdavey]

oliver will be our 4th cb this season at best

drayton florence aka the headbutter will walk to free agency in 08 , hopefully we can get some good compensatory picks for michael turner and florence.

florence has got some skill but he does make some stupid decisions and doesn't always capitalize on his opportunities, that's my guess as to why he wasn't offered a contract extension before now

 

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oliver will be our 4th cb this season at best

drayton florence aka the headbutter will walk to free agency in 08 , hopefully we can get some good compensatory picks for michael turner and florence.

florence has got some skill but he does make some stupid decisions and doesn't always capitalize on his opportunities, that's my guess as to why he wasn't offered a contract extension before now

being 4th string doesnt make him bad

-Jammer is a borderline pro bowler
-HeadButter played well last year but had a lot of drops
-Cromartie was round 1 and hes a freak

 

[jcdavey]

being 4th string doesnt make him bad

-Jammer is a borderline pro bowler
-HeadButter played well last year but had a lot of drops
-Cromartie was round 1 and hes a freak

yeah, i'm not doubting oliver's potential

hell i even think florence could be a stud if NE signed him

NE does wonders with secondary players via coaching

 

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yeah, i'm not doubting oliver's potential

hell i even think florence could be a stud if NE signed him

NE does wonders with secondary players via coaching

u realize Florence was the 1 who was bad mouthing us 2 years ago and then headbutted Graham? Hes too much of a ******

 

[VJCPatriot]

Well looks like my prediction came true. Oliver with a 4th rounder at the earliest. Those of you who predicted a 2nd round pick can wipe the egg off now. Oliver might turn out to be a fine corner. But the risks were high and a lot of teams as you can see passed on him for the issues I have enumerated in numerous posts: mediocre measurements, questionable intellect, etc. I think a lot of you guys were on the Oliver bandwagon in large part because of the uncertainty with Samuel so I can't blame you, however the Pats were not desperate enough to bite just because of that. Don't worry, Samuel will very likely sign the franchise tender and we will be all set to go for 2007.

 

[jcdavey]

u realize Florence was the 1 who was bad mouthing us 2 years ago and then headbutted Graham? Hes too much of a ******

like i said, NE has an effect on players once they join up

you guys really do get the most out of some people

 

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like i said, NE has an effect on players once they join up

you guys really do get the most out of some people

i dont recall anyone we ever signed badmouthing us and taunting us after a regular season win.

what effect do we have? Not all players want to go to a certain place and not all coaches want a certain player.

i doubt Drayton-Shaun Phillips would be welcome here if they wanted to.

 

[jcdavey]

i dont recall anyone we ever signed badmouthing us and taunting us after a regular season win.

what effect do we have? Not all players want to go to a certain place and not all coaches want a certain player.

i doubt Drayton-Shaun Phillips would be welcome here if they wanted to.

drayton maybe, but i bet NE would take phillips if they could get him

and i was complimenting NE , they get the most out of their players.

it's always amazed me what they can do with their secondary

 

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drayton maybe, but i bet NE would take phillips if they could get him

and i was complimenting NE , they get the most out of their players.

it's always amazed me what they can do with their secondary

i doubt that phillips would ever come here though. he seems to still be angry over the loss and badmouthing us again.

 

[jcdavey]

i doubt that phillips would ever come here though. he seems to still be angry over the loss and badmouthing us again.

eh athletes go anywhere for money.

in phillips case , he's already got a new contract so he won't be, but these guys can badmouth someone, but if that someone offers good money, they'll be there and singing a different tune.

 

[DaBruinz]

Well looks like my prediction came true. Oliver with a 4th rounder at the earliest. Those of you who predicted a 2nd round pick can wipe the egg off now. Oliver might turn out to be a fine corner. But the risks were high and a lot of teams as you can see passed on him for the issues I have enumerated in numerous posts: mediocre measurements, questionable intellect, etc. I think a lot of you guys were on the Oliver bandwagon in large part because of the uncertainty with Samuel so I can't blame you, however the Pats were not desperate enough to bite just because of that. Don't worry, Samuel will very likely sign the franchise tender and we will be all set to go for 2007.

Yes, you were also the person who claimed that the Patriots had NO INTEREST in Oliver. Yet, guess what. The Pats had a PRIVATE WORKOUT for him.

To the person who said the Pats had no interest in Oliver, I have some information for you

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/07/15/timing_pattern_misfired/?page=4

Oliver is represented by Chayut, and when the Patriots did not attend Oliver's Pro Day workout but decided to hold their own workout for him, the sides came together to make it happen."

So, the Pats had so little interest in Oliver that they decided to hold their own private workout for him.....

So, all you garbage about Oliver is still unfounded.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I think the Pats will examine in great detail any and all avenues necessary to make the team better, even a private workout for a supplemental player.

PS: I don't believe Oliver has 4.4 speed. Last year I watched a WRs from Vandy and Tenn. blow by Oliver all game.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Yes, you were also the person who claimed that the Patriots had NO INTEREST in Oliver. Yet, guess what. The Pats had a PRIVATE WORKOUT for him.

To the person who said the Pats had no interest in Oliver, I have some information for you

http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/articles/2007/07/15/timing_pattern_misfired/?page=4

Yeah right, show me the post where I EVER said the Pats had NO interest in Oliver. What I said was that they wouldn't bid higher than a 4th. Come on dude don't just make stuff up just because your "guy" wasn't taken in the 2nd round like you expected.

So, the Pats had so little interest in Oliver that they decided to hold their own private workout for him.....

So, all you garbage about Oliver is still unfounded.

The Pats would be amiss if they didn't do their due diligence. The Pats have worked out dozens of players and never drafted them. Your post reveals nothing other than spin control. The Supplemental draft is over. The players in it were overrated as usual. REAL NFL GM's, not the mock draft experts you held forth as gospel, decided that a future 4th round pick was the highest value they were willing to pay for Oliver. Get over it my man.

I think the Pats will examine in great detail any and all avenues necessary to make the team better, even a private workout for a supplemental player.

PS: I don't believe Oliver has 4.4 speed. Last year I watched a WRs from Vandy and Tenn. blow by Oliver all game.

Thanks. Now we have some eyewitness testimony that corroborates what the stopwatches have been saying about the kid.