Why isn't national media discussing OVERINFLATED ball for Jets game?

[Eric Manchester]

The ball attendants gave testimony that a ball was recorded AFTER a game at 16 PSI (against Jets, October).
This should raise SERIOUS questions. Are the refs that sloppy doing their job? Might the Jets have OVERINFLATED the ball after it was given to the refs (after all, they were in NY, and they would know Brady's preferences almost better than anyone).

As I see it, even if the attendants did something (and I don't think there is sufficient evidence that they did), it could easily be because they had found the refs couldn't be trusted to keep the balls at the requested minimum inflation. Yes, this would technically be a violation, but so is having a ball at 16! And we know that refs have not regularly logged PSI numbers, so one has to wonder just how imprecise this has been all along. For that matter, if refs could be that off in pSI count, why should be trust ref memory when it comes to what the Colts balls were at (13 or 13.1)? The strongest part of the league's case is that the Colts balls were deflated by less than half as much as the Pats' (though I think there are factors that should have been taken into account that as far as I can see, were not), but do we really trust their recollection of 13/13.1? If it was 13.5 the differentials would be the same and the main evidence (if one is willing to call it that) would be out the window.

 

[patsfan13]

The narrative the slugs who paid for the Brady hit are ex Jet employees, all they want is the hit on Bradt, not their crappy procedures and the fact no one ever paid attention to how weather affects psi.

 

[PATS16N0]

Not part of the narrative being used to shape the stupid masses brains like warm play-doh.

 

[patsfaninpa]

Or, letting the Colts play with at least 3 balls under 12.5 in the second half? Prileau tested 3/4 under requirements. Yet, they didn't put any air in them. Pumped ours up to 13.3-13.5. Above what TB12 prefers. Yet, he threw better and we didn't fumble.

We talking PSI. C'mon man. PSI? C'mon PSI?? Really. As if a 12.1 ball compared to an 11.8 ball really bleepin matters.

And, if you think we turn a ball in at 12.2 and these refs put air in them. I've got some land to sell ya. They pick it up. Sign it. Looks good to me.

 

[DaBronxPats14]

Or, letting the Colts play with at least 3 balls under 12.5 in the second half? Prileau tested 3/4 under requirements. Yet, they didn't put any air in them. Pumped ours up to 13.3-13.5. Above what TB12 prefers. Yet, he threw better and we didn't fumble.

We talking PSI. C'mon man. PSI? C'mon PSI?? Really. As if a 12.1 ball compared to an 11.8 ball really bleepin matters.

And, if you think we turn a ball in at 12.2 and these refs put air in them. I've got some land to sell ya. They pick it up. Sign it. Looks good to me.

Yup! 'cause Fix Was In. Ravens tipped off Colts, Colts to media for mediots & haters to swarm. Lynch Mob out to get Pats, Colts come out innocent.

 

[Eric Manchester]

Or, letting the Colts play with at least 3 balls under 12.5 in the second half? Prileau tested 3/4 under requirements. Yet, they didn't put any air in them. Pumped ours up to 13.3-13.5. Above what TB12 prefers. Yet, he threw better and we didn't fumble.

We talking PSI. C'mon man. PSI? C'mon PSI?? Really. As if a 12.1 ball compared to an 11.8 ball really bleepin matters.

And, if you think we turn a ball in at 12.2 and these refs put air in them. I've got some land to sell ya. They pick it up. Sign it. Looks good to me.

The Colts balls that were under 12.5, however, we not much under, and fell within the range of drop that could be explained due to game conditions. HOWEVER, as I have stated elsewhere, I did not see anything in the report that indicated when balls would reach "original" equilibrium after being brought inside---and we know that the Colts balls were tested about 8 minutes after the Patriots'. One thing I have said all along is that the bigger drop to Patriots balls could very well be explained by the fac tthat the Colts had quite a bit more time to warm up.

I too have been bothered by the fact that all we have is the refs' testimony that the Colts balls started at 13 or 13.1---they don't log in, and how can they really remember that, if they are only required to make sure they are with 12/5-13.5 (I"ll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they checked them this much, having been tipped off before the game to check PSIs). If the balls were closer to 13.5 originally, this would account for most of the difference in the deflation rates.

And, as I've also said elsewhere, the report said the balls were checked before the game in the shower area of the locker room--if that room was heated and damp from showers, the pats 12.5 reading there might actually have been lower than that, which would also explain why the Patriots appear to drop more--maybe they were really only 11.5 or 12 to begin with, but measured 12.5 because of conditions.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Or, letting the Colts play with at least 3 balls under 12.5 in the second half? Prileau tested 3/4 under requirements. Yet, they didn't put any air in them. Pumped ours up to 13.3-13.5. Above what TB12 prefers. Yet, he threw better and we didn't fumble.

We talking PSI. C'mon man. PSI? C'mon PSI?? Really. As if a 12.1 ball compared to an 11.8 ball really bleepin matters.

And, if you think we turn a ball in at 12.2 and these refs put air in them. I've got some land to sell ya. They pick it up. Sign it. Looks good to me.

When you take about 1000 steps back, it really is absolute insanity on how things have gotten so out of hand over ball pressure.

Its just crazy.

 

[50-yard-line]

The Thursday Night Patriots-Jets game in question was in New England.

On the rest, I agree. The league says nothing about balls at 16, but we're supposed to believe that there's a "big deal" to be had over .3 or .5 psi?

 

[Jim Colclough fan]

They are not talking about the Jets or Colts because they are irrelevant. The national media want to tear down and see the end of Brady & Belichick. Their motivation is solely based on envy & jealousy.

 

[Froob]

That's over the legal limit, punish the Patriots more! Brady acted like he didnt want them that big to throw an eventually investigaton off the trail.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

It's because none of them have read the report.

Ironically, the "almost 16" is something that is specifically stated quoting the texts.

What is not stated in the texts is :

- Deflating the balls after the ref check.
- Deflating the balls below 12.5
- Brady asking for illegal deflation of balls.
- Brady knowing about illegal deflation of balls.

That turns into Brady more probable than not being generally aware. But the refs screwing him to "almost 16" is quoted, QUOTED, as happening and ignored.

 

[SunshineSammy]

The ball attendants gave testimony that a ball was recorded AFTER a game at 16 PSI (against Jets, October).
This should raise SERIOUS questions. Are the refs that sloppy doing their job? Might the Jets have OVERINFLATED the ball after it was given to the refs (after all, they were in NY, and they would know Brady's preferences almost better than anyone).

As I see it, even if the attendants did something (and I don't think there is sufficient evidence that they did), it could easily be because they had found the refs couldn't be trusted to keep the balls at the requested minimum inflation. Yes, this would technically be a violation, but so is having a ball at 16! And we know that refs have not regularly logged PSI numbers, so one has to wonder just how imprecise this has been all along. For that matter, if refs could be that off in pSI count, why should be trust ref memory when it comes to what the Colts balls were at (13 or 13.1)? The strongest part of the league's case is that the Colts balls were deflated by less than half as much as the Pats' (though I think there are factors that should have been taken into account that as far as I can see, were not), but do we really trust their recollection of 13/13.1? If it was 13.5 the differentials would be the same and the main evidence (if one is willing to call it that) would be out the window.

You are probably right but the jets were not under suspicion.

The way I understand it the league was tipped off about the pats...

to be perfectly honest I never even knew this was a thing until January... I always thought both teams had their own set of balls for their qb..

 

[Rob0729]

Because no one believes that text. All the other text are 100% true, but that one isn't.

People only see what they want to see and right now it is all about hanging Brady and the Pats.

 

[reflexblue]

Or, letting the Colts play with at least 3 balls under 12.5 in the second half? Prileau tested 3/4 under requirements. Yet, they didn't put any air in them. Pumped ours up to 13.3-13.5. Above what TB12 prefers. Yet, he threw better and we didn't fumble.

We talking PSI. C'mon man. PSI? C'mon PSI?? Really. As if a 12.1 ball compared to an 11.8 ball really bleepin matters.

And, if you think we turn a ball in at 12.2 and these refs put air in them. I've got some land to sell ya. They pick it up. Sign it. Looks good to me.

And the whole idea that the NFL FO would allow the AFCCG to be played with balls that are under inflated. Talk about ruining the integrity of the game, knowingly allowing the first half of the AFCCG to be played like that to catch the pats is outrageous.

 

[TBR]

The narrative the slugs who paid for the Brady hit are ex Jet employees, all they want is the hit on Bradt, not their crappy procedures and the fact no one ever paid attention to how weather affects psi.

Most damn people involved in this are either: former Jet employees (Goodell, Kensil), former division rival player (Troy Vincent), NY resident (Wells).

That's just off the top of my head. I'm sure I could expand further if I took my time.