McGinest the best Pat draft pick EVER???

[shatch62]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6687794

According to this the McGinest was the Best ever draft pick for the Pats

“McGinest shows up here because of a combination of performance and longevity. Twelve years with a team is a whole lot, especially when you play up to McGinest's caliber. Will Tom Brady and Richard Seymour surpass him? Sure, in about two or three seasons of similarly-caliber play to how they're performing now. Want to talk about clutch, though? McGinest's fourth-down standing-up of Edgerrin James in 2003, a play he made by trusting his instinctual read, is as clutch a move as anything Tom Brady's done.”

This is brutal. McGinest was a quality player but he would not even be in my top 6 overall for Pats Picks

John Hannah: 1973- 1st round, 4th overall:
Andre Tippett: 1982 – 2nd round, 41st overall:
Ty Law: 1995 – 1st round, 24th overall
Tedy Bruschi: 1996 – 3rd round, 86th overall
Curtis Martin: 1995 – 3rd round, 74th overall
Mike Haynes: 1976 – 1st round, 5th overall

Also, Robert Edwards as our biggest bust??? The guy had a freak injury. A bust is Eugene Chung, Chris Canty, Reggie Duppard and Ken Sims (1st overall selection)

 

[VJCPatriot]

I think that Tom Brady actually wins hands down.
You can't get any more value than that out of a 6th round pick, whereas McGinest was a top 10 pick in the 1st round. We were EXPECTING that kind of production out of McGinest, turned out he was a late bloomer.

 

[makoute]

labeling injured players bust never seems fair to me.

 

[shatch62]

I think that Tom Brady actually wins hands down.
You can't get any more value than that out of a 6th round pick, whereas McGinest was a top 10 pick in the 1st round. We were EXPECTING that kind of production out of McGinest, turned out he was a late bloomer.

The article listed Brady as a "steal". The author seams to seperate the two - best and steal.

 

[Clonamery]

(#7) Troy Brown - 8th round/1993 Draft (#198 overall).

 

[DarrylS]

Do not think Willie is the best overall, but should be in the top 5 or 6... he had some earlier injury problems, but he finished well. Before this is all over with Seymour, Brady, Warren and maybe Wilfork will surpass him.

Curtis Martin was a pretty good pick, but he defected.

 

[patsox23]

Tom Brady is established enough, and has played enough, to make this selection F-ing ridiculous. He is EASILY "the best" draft pick the Pats have ever made.

 

[wistahpatsfan]

(#7) Troy Brown - 8th round/1993 Draft (#198 overall).

Falls under the "steal" category I guess.

 

[DaBruinz]

I have to say the guy is pretty whacked out with some of his picks.

Colts: Worst: Art Schlichter. Was the guy really worse than Quentin Coryatt or Steve Emtman? Or Trev Alberts....

Jets: Lam Jones. I thought that Blair Thomas was a much worse pick than Jones.

As others have mentioned, you can't call Robert Edwards a bust. Busts are Chris Canty, Ken Sims, or Eugene Chung. Or even Hart Lee Dykes.... Not Edwards.

 

[PatrioticDynasty]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6687794

According to this the McGinest was the Best ever draft pick for the Pats

“McGinest shows up here because of a combination of performance and longevity. Twelve years with a team is a whole lot, especially when you play up to McGinest's caliber. Will Tom Brady and Richard Seymour surpass him? Sure, in about two or three seasons of similarly-caliber play to how they're performing now. Want to talk about clutch, though? McGinest's fourth-down standing-up of Edgerrin James in 2003, a play he made by trusting his instinctual read, is as clutch a move as anything Tom Brady's done.”

This is brutal. McGinest was a quality player but he would not even be in my top 6 overall for Pats Picks

John Hannah: 1973- 1st round, 4th overall:
Andre Tippett: 1982 – 2nd round, 41st overall:
Ty Law: 1995 – 1st round, 24th overall
Tedy Bruschi: 1996 – 3rd round, 86th overall
Curtis Martin: 1995 – 3rd round, 74th overall
Mike Haynes: 1976 – 1st round, 5th overall

Also, Robert Edwards as our biggest bust??? The guy had a freak injury. A bust is Eugene Chung, Chris Canty, Reggie Duppard and Ken Sims (1st overall selection)

I think the key play in that game was when willie sacked Payton and kept them out of field goal range...that play you describe of was great, but if you look at it, Washington intially stood him up around the legs in time for willie to get there, willie gets all the credit for it, but it was a collective effort, don't get me wrong, I love willie, I even have a signed ball from him...he was an awesome contributor to this team, but the best pick is a little off the top IMO.

PD.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Tom Brady is established enough, and has played enough, to make this selection F-ing ridiculous. He is EASILY "the best" draft pick the Pats have ever made.

He might ultimately qualify as the best draft pick any NFL team has ever made.

 

[zippo59]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6687794

According to this the McGinest was the Best ever draft pick for the Pats

“McGinest shows up here because of a combination of performance and longevity. Twelve years with a team is a whole lot, especially when you play up to McGinest's caliber. Will Tom Brady and Richard Seymour surpass him? Sure, in about two or three seasons of similarly-caliber play to how they're performing now. Want to talk about clutch, though? McGinest's fourth-down standing-up of Edgerrin James in 2003, a play he made by trusting his instinctual read, is as clutch a move as anything Tom Brady's done.”

This is brutal. McGinest was a quality player but he would not even be in my top 6 overall for Pats Picks

John Hannah: 1973- 1st round, 4th overall:
Andre Tippett: 1982 – 2nd round, 41st overall:
Ty Law: 1995 – 1st round, 24th overall
Tedy Bruschi: 1996 – 3rd round, 86th overall
Curtis Martin: 1995 – 3rd round, 74th overall
Mike Haynes: 1976 – 1st round, 5th overall

Also, Robert Edwards as our biggest bust??? The guy had a freak injury. A bust is Eugene Chung, Chris Canty, Reggie Duppard and Ken Sims (1st overall selection)

I love Willie, but how is a goal line stop in a regular season game the same as two Superbowl winning drives?

 

[shatch62]

I love Willie, but how is a goal line stop in a regular season game the same as two Superbowl winning drives?

I'm still focused on John Hannah. I know that a lot of us don’t remember him as he played over 20 years ago but the man was a beast. McGinest was not even the Pats best 1st round pick ever. Hannah was

 

[Mainefan]

This is really a desperate article--the desperation being the writer's need to fill space. Anyone can look at the great players of our time and see who drafted them. It's not exactly rocket science--or even very insightful.

That said, I remember when Willie was drafted. No one was sure he'd be a good value, even if he played as well as predicted. But his long career, with some great years, some good years and some injury-slowed years, reaffirms the judgment of those who chose him. A very special player indeed. I wish he could have finished his career here.

 

[PromisedLand]

I think the key play in that game was when willie sacked Payton and kept them out of field goal range...that play you describe of was great, but if you look at it, Washington intially stood him up around the legs in time for willie to get there, willie gets all the credit for it, but it was a collective effort, don't get me wrong, I love willie, I even have a signed ball from him...he was an awesome contributor to this team, but the best pick is a little off the top IMO.

PD.

I was going to say that too. Willie made an excellent play, but it never would have happened without the Big Mount Washington bulldozing into the backfield at the snap and making the initial stop. And actually, I think that Willie might have made an even better play when he stopped play with an injury (faked, according to Colts fans) two play earlier, giving the defense a chance to collect themselves and catch their breaths for the last two plays.

 

[Rob0729]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6687794

According to this the McGinest was the Best ever draft pick for the Pats

“McGinest shows up here because of a combination of performance and longevity. Twelve years with a team is a whole lot, especially when you play up to McGinest's caliber. Will Tom Brady and Richard Seymour surpass him? Sure, in about two or three seasons of similarly-caliber play to how they're performing now. Want to talk about clutch, though? McGinest's fourth-down standing-up of Edgerrin James in 2003, a play he made by trusting his instinctual read, is as clutch a move as anything Tom Brady's done.”

This is brutal. McGinest was a quality player but he would not even be in my top 6 overall for Pats Picks

John Hannah: 1973- 1st round, 4th overall:
Andre Tippett: 1982 – 2nd round, 41st overall:
Ty Law: 1995 – 1st round, 24th overall
Tedy Bruschi: 1996 – 3rd round, 86th overall
Curtis Martin: 1995 – 3rd round, 74th overall
Mike Haynes: 1976 – 1st round, 5th overall

Also, Robert Edwards as our biggest bust??? The guy had a freak injury. A bust is Eugene Chung, Chris Canty, Reggie Duppard and Ken Sims (1st overall selection)

The problem is that McGinest had a three or four year stretch where his performance was hampered by injuries and lack of production. It wasn't until Belichick and Crennel decided to take his hand out of the dirt and move him from a full-time DE to a LB with some DE responsibilities; did he resurrect his career.

 

[mcbee]

Clayton Weishuhn was really good value. I think he retired early b/c of injuries.

San Angelo State, IIRC.

 

[zippo59]

I'm still focused on John Hannah. I know that a lot of us don’t remember him as he played over 20 years ago but the man was a beast. McGinest was not even the Pats best 1st round pick ever. Hannah was

The whole thing is goofy. Hannah is arguably the best guard to ever play the game and realistically Willie isn't even the best linebacker to play on the Patriots, and that's no disrespect for Willie. I even remember that before the 2003 season there was atlk of him being released as a cap casualty. I'm certainly glad we didn't but it just goes to show that for whatever reason McGinest was not a consistently high performer throughout his career.

 

[desi-patsfan]

how is Edwards a bad pick. A bad pick would be taking someone with lots of problems in college. Not someone who wins rookie of the year and gets hurt in hawaii.

 

[dalero]

I loved when the Pats drafted Willie. The cameras were on Jerry Jones and I got to see him throw up in his mouth, crap his pants, and darned near have a stroke with dissapointment.