Patriots Draft 29th Overall First Round

[ATippett56]

Patriots draft pick reset - New England Patriots Blog - ESPN

The NFL has made a shift in its offseason schedule for 2014, as the draft has been pushed back to May 8-10, a few weeks after its normal time slot of late April.

The Patriots own the 29th pick in this year’s draft, and below is a snap shot of their entire set of picks.

• First round: 29th in the round
• Second round: 29th in the round (61st overall)
• Third round: 29th in the round (93rd overall)
• Fourth round: 29th in the round (actual pick number TBD based on compensatory picks awarded)
• Fifth round: No pick (sent to Philadelphia in Isaac Sopoaga trade)
• Sixth round: 22nd in the round (from Philadelphia), 29th in the round (actual pick number TBD based on compensatory picks awarded)
• Seventh round: 29th in the round (actual pick number TBD based on compensatory picks awarded)

Total: 7 picks, plus potential compensatory picks.

Note: The Sopoaga trade cost the Patriots essentially 25 spots in the draft order, plus however many compensatory picks are awarded in the fifth round.

 

[varjao]

A high 5th round pick would not be bad

 

[patsfaninpa]

Roger Goodell steps up to the podium and says; "With the 29th pick of the 2014 Entry Draft, the New England Patriots have traded the pick the Dallas Cowboys." Camera pans to Jerry Jones who is seen drooling over a scouting report.

 

[State]

You got it. We probably would succeed best by trading out of the first, loading up on picks this year--one or two to recuperate from free agent acquisitions--and a first next year.

Trading down has been an obviously successful strategy. 2000-2012 Patriots Draft Analysis atriots Coverage With John Vampatella

I'd love to do that with a team like Dallas. Then in the second we take two players, a Ninkovich replacement in Louisville's Marcus Smith, a 6'4" 260 LB athlete who recorded 14.5 sacks last year. And he was a high school QB! Smart kid who can cover receivers in space. Y! SPORTS

And with the second second-rounder I think changes to the offensive line are in order with moving Cannon to guard and bringing in Ohio State's OT Jack Mewhort. A tough, hard-nosed kid. Think of a 6' 6" Matt Light.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

You got it. We probably would succeed best by trading out of the first, loading up on picks this year--one or two to recuperate from free agent acquisitions--and a first next year.

Trading down has been an obviously successful strategy. 2000-2012 Patriots Draft Analysis atriots Coverage With John Vampatella

I'd love to do that with a team like Dallas. Then in the second we take two players, a Ninkovich replacement in Louisville's Marcus Smith, a 6'4" 260 LB athlete who recorded 14.5 sacks last year. And he was a high school QB! Smart kid who can cover receivers in space. Y! SPORTS

And with the second second-rounder I think changes to the offensive line are in order with moving Cannon to guard and bringing in Ohio State's OT Jack Mewhort. A tough, hard-nosed kid. Think of a 6' 6" Matt Light.

I am thinking that BB is already lining up potential scenarios for trading #29. This year I think he finds a willing trade partner. Given this draft is short on red chip prospects, but high on white chip prospects, BB can get great value in the second round this year and we all know BB loves value.

PS: I like the Mewhort pick. He is a bit mechanical, but really nasty.

 

[mgteich]

Has Adam indicated what if any compensatory picks we will get?

 

[VJCPatriot]

We've traded down before. But it needs to be the right deal. The only guy I really regret not trading down from is Ras-I Dowling. I really wish we had taken Kaepernick if that was the 'stay put' pick. The kid has been to two NFC championship games already.

 

[dryheat44]

We've traded down before. But it needs to be the right deal. The only guy I really regret not trading down from is Ras-I Dowling. I really wish we had taken Kaepernick if that was the 'stay put' pick. The kid has been to two NFC championship games already.

You wish we had used the #33 pick on someone who wouldn't have played for us?

 

[reflexblue]

We've traded down before. But it needs to be the right deal. The only guy I really regret not trading down from is Ras-I Dowling. I really wish we had taken Kaepernick if that was the 'stay put' pick. The kid has been to two NFC championship games already.

The only one you regret is Dowling? How about:

T Wilson

J Cunningham

P Chung

Darious Butler

Ron Brace that was a good one

Terrance Wheatley

Chad Jackson

IMHO the Second round is where the Pats seem to do the worst.

 

[Huckleberry1]

The Patriots have a number of needs and need to get young players into their program sooner, not later, and this is by all accounts a strong draft, so unless the board is devoid of top prospects they really like they should not only take the #29 but they should trade Mallett to Houston for the #33 if possible and take that pick as well. I would be fine with a number of picks with their first 3 choices but would love to see them address the 2nd TE, WR, C, or another pass rushing LB. Who to take would depend upon who is gone and who is left at those positions, but to this point guys like Jace Amaro, Kyle Van Noy, Dee Ford, Odell Beckham, Marquise Lee, Travis are among those I want them to look seriously at taking. Who will actually be available is still way up in the air as the draft is far from settling and it will be Late March early April before it solidifies enough to get a serious look at who should or should not be around when they pick.


If they did get the #33 then I could see using one of the first 3 to move back and gain 2nd and 3rd round picks but again that would depend upon who is around, every year there are major surprises when certain players drop from where they were projected, some years that has really benefitted the Patriots, such as when Wilfork fell to them, and other years the players who drop, like Barkley and Geno Smith, don't benefit them at all, and some years players we love drop and they just pass them over, as they did with LaVonte David. Hopefully this year we see another one of those years where a player they need falls to them and they actually take them, we'll see?

 

[Ochmed Jones]

The only one you regret is Dowling? How about:

T Wilson

J Cunningham

P Chung

Darious Butler

Ron Brace that was a good one

Terrance Wheatley

Chad Jackson

IMHO the Second round is where the Pats seem to do the worst.

BB usually hits very well in the first round. Does a little better than 50% in the second round and in the third round, he goes off script and drafts next to nothing but losers.

BB needs to trade any and all third round picks in order to keep from embarrassing us further.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

BB usually hits very well in the first round. Does a little better than 50% in the second round and in the third round, he goes off script and drafts next to nothing but losers.

BB needs to trade any and all third round picks in order to keep from embarrassing us further.

If you want to call Mallett, Ridley, Harmon, and Ryan losers, I suppose that's your call, but I wouldn't go nearly that far.

 

[mayoclinic]

If you want to call Mallett, Ridley, Harmon, and Ryan losers, I suppose that's your call, but I wouldn't go nearly that far.

Ellis Hobbs and Nick Kaczur weren't busts, either. Moreover, nobody rated Hobbs (2005), Kaczur (2005), Dave Thomas (2006), Shawn Crable (2008), Tyrone McKenzie (2009), Taylor Price (2010) or Jake Bequette (2012) "off the wall" or "ridiculous" picks when they were made.

3rd round picks are generally a crapshoot. The Jimmy Graham and Navorro Bowman jackpot type of picks are a rare exception.

 

[reflexblue]

BB usually hits very well in the first round. Does a little better than 50% in the second round and in the third round, he goes off script and drafts next to nothing but losers.

BB needs to trade any and all third round picks in order to keep from embarrassing us further.

Agreed, with the exception of Watt he always hits on the first rnd pick. But i don't agree that his average is that good since '06 in the second, very strange. I didn't go back and look at the third round picks.

 

[reflexblue]

If you want to call Mallett, Ridley, Harmon, and Ryan losers, I suppose that's your call, but I wouldn't go nearly that far.

I'm not speaking for OJ but, we don't know what Mallet can really do, the books still out on him. I want to see Ryan play well again next year (TWilson had a good first years, as did Cunningham) I didn't think Harmon was any great shakes, but Ridley was definitely a very good pick.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I'm not speaking for OJ but, we don't know what Mallet can really do, the books still out on him. I want to see Ryan play well again next year (TWilson had a good first years, as did Cunningham) I didn't think Harmon was any great shakes, but Ridley was definitely a very good pick.

Well, they haven't even tried to bring in serious competition for him (no, Tebow doesn't count).

 

[reflexblue]

Well, they haven't even tried to bring in serious competition for him (no, Tebow doesn't count).

I'm talking starting six games in relief of Brady. I want to see what he could do over a stretch like that, like Cassel did. Then well probably know if he was a good pick and what hes realistically worth.

 

[jsull87]

The only one you regret is Dowling? How about:

T Wilson

J Cunningham

P Chung

Darious Butler

Ron Brace that was a good one

Terrance Wheatley

Chad Jackson

IMHO the Second round is where the Pats seem to do the worst.

Ahhh this round about again. In that same time period

Great/Good: Vollmer, Gronk, Spikes, Vereen, Collins, Dobson

Not so good: Ras-I, Chad Jackson, Brace, Wheatley, Cunningham and probably T Wilson despite him having 28 tackles 2 FR and 5 int in 2 years. (not including ST)

I still don't get why people include Chung and Butler in the bust category. Chung has been a starting safety in the NFL for what? 5 years and 2 teams? not making the pro bow anytime soon but he hasn't busted out like the other names above.

Darius Butler now starts for the Colts, he isn't a bust.

Even if I take out Dobson and Collins, it's around the 50% make hit rate, the biggest stuff up is obviously Ras-I IMO.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

The only one you regret is Dowling? How about:

T Wilson

J Cunningham

P Chung

Darious Butler

Ron Brace that was a good one

Terrance Wheatley

Chad Jackson

IMHO the Second round is where the Pats seem to do the worst.

I got killed on this forum when I suggested that Ron Brace was a flounder....ha, he was.

 

[Patriot Missile]

I'm on the fence on this one. About a 50 percent hit rate I guess isn't bad without comparing what the rest of the teams did.

I will honestly say IMO there have been some wtf blunders that po'd me to no end. A couple of safeties come to mind who could of been drafted much lower regardless of how they performed on the field. Taking the lesser talent from Florida when a first round talent falls right on your lap. Why? They thought he was the better football player for their system? He was horrible and let go, meanwhile the other one just got a nice contract extension over the summer from the Bengals. 2012 could of moved up 2 spots and got the Seattle linebacker who covers like nobodies business. No? Sit pat and take the irrelevant safety? The Tampa Bay linebacker was pretty good too who went 10 picks later. There was no captain hindsight intended. Many here liked those two linebackers and thought they had that kind of potential from the get go.

The drafting of the Pats is still one of the strongest in the league but I've seen some work on this forum from armchair gms that have done a better job imo. They are not even privy to airplane rides to college stadiums in a box seat with access to all the film.

I don't crush them like some do, but I also don't fall in the category that these guys are perfect and cover for their mistakes like they walk on water either like some fans. They can do better and that goes for every team not in the Super Bowl right now.