Miguel Makes Some Projections: players to be re-signed with low salary cap impact

[mgteich]

Miguel projects that we will re-sign all the following with little cap effect ($2M net).

Blount
Collie
Hooman
Svitek
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He also has us re-signing Aiken and Fletcher for short money.

This would be a great thing to do before March 11th, the first day of free agency. Aiken can be tendered and a contract negotiated after March 11.
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This would clear the board so that we focus on Talib, Wendell, Spikes and Edelman. Miguel has us keeping only ONE of these four.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

This would clear the board so that we focus on Talib, Wendell, Spikes and Edelman. Miguel has us keeping only of these four.

I doubt we'll make Spikes an offer. I love part of him but it looks like the relationship will end. If we re-sign Wendell it had better be for not much more than league minimum.

The other two we have to get done.

 

[Tunescribe]

This would clear the board so that we focus on Talib, Wendell, Spikes and Edelman. Miguel has us keeping only of these four.

How many of the four? I'm ready right now to bid Wendell and Spikes adieu.

 

[RI Patriots fan]

I can't see signing Blount for so little money. I understand that there are some issues which will stop him from making huge money (not a pass catcher, past discipline issues, etc.) but the fact remains that he still ran for 772 yards with a 5.0 yard per carry average along with 7 TDs. Also, he just turned 27 years old and he's kept his nose clean for the entire year.

If someone was willing to pay BJGE $9 million for 3 years with $4 million guaranteed, what is Blount worth?

Granted, BJGE wasn't worth that much but all it takes is one team out of 32.


http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/contracts/nfl/cin/bengals

http://www.nfl.com/player/legarretteblount/497149/profile

 

[nabwong]

I'm ready to drive Wendell to the airport anytime (if he's the projected starter). Just PM me.

 

[mgteich]

ONE

I fixed the post.

How many of the four? I'm ready right now to bid Wendell and Spikes adieu.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Patriots Salary Cap

Summary
Danny Aiken – Stays – 2014 cap hit – $800,000
LeGarrette Blount – Stays – 2004 cap hit – $1.5 million
Andre Carter – Retires
Austin Collie – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $635,000
Julian Edelman – Goes
Dane Fletcher – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $800,000
Michael Hoomanawanui – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $1,000,000
Matthew Mulligan – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $635,000
Brandon Spikes – Goes
Will Svitek – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $900,000
Aqib Talib – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $4,000,000
Ryan Wendell – Goes

Good read and well thought analysis. Talib is tricky to guess what his value is but Miguel's estimate of 7.5 million a year over 4 years through incentives seems about right.

LeGarrette Blount
I can see Blount resigning with the Pats on a 3-year $5 million deal that with incentives could increase the contract’s value to $8 million

My only real disagreement is here. I think Blount could get 4-5 million a year on the open market.

 

[mgteich]

We'll see regarding Blount. Personally, I have no problem paying him what BJGE got. Od course, I would follow this up with an extension of Vereen.

I can't see signing Blount for so little money. I understand that there are some issues which will stop him from making huge money (not a pass catcher, past discipline issues, etc.) but the fact remains that he still ran for 772 yards with a 5.0 yard per carry average along with 7 TDs. Also, he just turned 27 years old and he's kept his nose clean for the entire year.

If someone was willing to pay BJGE $9 million for 3 years with $4 million guaranteed, what is Blount worth?

Granted, BJGE wasn't worth that much but all it takes is one team out of 32.


Cincinnati Bengals - NFL Team Contracts - Rotoworld.com

LeGarrette Blount, RB for the New England Patriots at NFL.com

 

[ripatsfan91]

No one will offer Blount big money, and if they do their front office needs its head checked. His sample size is way too small this season and he is 27 years old (although with not much wear).

In reality, Blount had 3 really big games and that was it. When he faced an above average to good run defense, he was stopped for 5 carries and 6 yards.

Does anyone remember when he was given the opportunity to start against the Bengals when Ridley went down? Didn't do much and lost a fumble.

Did not do enough to earn big money, had three great games, and should be back relatively cheap.

 

[RayClay]

As long as we lock up Aiken.

 

[Tunescribe]

So the conclusion seems to be that both Edelman and Talib cannot be afforded. That truly sucks. I don't want to see Edelman go; in fact, I'd choose him over Talib if it came to that. Is there not a reasonable scenario under which both can be signed?

 

[mayoclinic]

I want Julian Edelman to stay, but if he tests the market and gets ridiculously overpaid then I'm fine going after Jeremy Maclin (likely on a 1 year "prove it" deal) or Emmanuel Sanders as lower-cost replacements.

 

[mgteich]

In a word, "no".

Obviously these situations are difficult to predict. Who would have predicted that we would have resigned Vollmer and Talib for what we did last year?

EDELMAN
Brady may succeed where he didn't last year, in keeping his top receiver. I doubt it though. It seems likely that our #1 receiver will move elsewhere. After all, last year our #1 became some else's #3. I don't think Belichick will lay out the money that others will. Edelman is rated as one of the top free agent wide receivers (#4).

TALIB
There has been a lot a positive vibes in this situation. I am being convinced by others that Talib may truly want to come back. Perhaps a Bodden-like contract with incentives may work for everyone. Talib is likely to be our #1 priority. We need a top corner. Others of his quality will cost even more than Talib, and would need to be integrated into our system.
In a sense, a top corner is our clear #1 need, with nothing else close.

So the conclusion seems to be that both Edelman and Talib cannot be afforded. That truly sucks. I don't want to see Edelman go; in fact, I'd choose him over Talib if it came to that. Is there not a reasonable scenario under which both can be signed?

 

[deters]

Don't even waste time and money on Wendell and Spikes. Both make our roster worse off.

 

[manxman2601]

Summary
Danny Aiken – Stays – 2014 cap hit – $800,000
LeGarrette Blount – Stays – 2004 cap hit – $1.5 million
Andre Carter – Retires
Austin Collie – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $635,000
Julian Edelman – Goes
Dane Fletcher – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $800,000
Michael Hoomanawanui – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $1,000,000
Matthew Mulligan – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $635,000
Brandon Spikes – Goes
Will Svitek – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $900,000
Aqib Talib – Stays – 2014 cap hit of $4,000,000
Ryan Wendell – Goes

I'd be a little surprised at re-signing both of these as it leaves little room to upgrrade a position that we need to upgrade badly. I'm not sure we'd resign Mulligan, the least versatile of the two.

 

[mgteich]

We need competition for camp. The only real cost of signing Mulligan is his signing and workout bonuses. We have a similar situation with Collie.

Hooman is going nowhere. He is a fine backup, who is capable of starting.

We are not building a 53 man roster for the season. We are building an 80 or 90 man roster for camp.

I'd be a little surprised at re-signing both of these as it leaves little room to upgrrade a position that we need to upgrade badly. I'm not sure we'd resign Mulligan, the least versatile of the two.

 

[manxman2601]

We need competition for camp. The only real cost of signing Mulligan is his signing and workout bonuses. We have a similar situation with Collie.

Hooman is going nowhere. He is a fine backup, who is capable of starting.

We are not building a 53 man roster for the season. We are building an 80 or 90 man roster for camp.

I have no problem with Hooman being kept but we can do better than Mulligan can't we? He's a very good blocker and all but offers nothing beyond that. Maybe a Jake Ballard return?

 

[mgteich]

We won't be limited. There will be plenty of TE's by the time camp comes. I agree that Mulligan isn't worth a lot. Still, he know the system and has played for us.

I have no problem with Hooman being kept but we can do better than Mulligan can't we? He's a very good blocker and all but offers nothing beyond that. Maybe a Jake Ballard return?

 

[ATippett56]

No one will offer Blount big money, and if they do their front office needs its head checked. His sample size is way too small this season and he is 27 years old (although with not much wear).

You forgot there exists a fat blowhard in New Jersey who knows nothing about offense except "Ground and Pound" or is it "Pound and Ground"?

 

[Tunescribe]

You forgot there exists a fat blowhard in New Jersey who knows nothing about offense except "Ground and Pound" or is it "Pound and Ground"?

Even he gets it confused with "Ground Round."