It's time for Amendola to step up

[primetime]

I fixed it for ya. He was a pretty big disappointment, I believe both Dobson and Thompson would have surpassed him if they had stayed healthy.

This is an odd post (and, for what it's worth, both Dobson and Thompkins are currently 'injury-prone' as well if we're throwing that label around).

None of them were healthy all year, yet Amendola was still convincingly the best and most productive of the three of them and at no point was that position challenged.

 

[Ring 6]

I would wonder that his streaky performances are due to his snaps and who is playing with him. I would go to bet his targets are lowered because Jules and who is playing. Remember after we lost gronk, amendola had a huge game with Jules. I don't think amendola has been given a large amount of targets or in the game plan as much. Now if we focus on the passing game in the following weeks, I expect amendola and Jules to put up insane production.

I think Danny is healed, we just have used him a lot.

Its just a red herring argument.

Amedola had 26 of his 54 catches in the best 1/4 of his games. 48%
Edelman had 44 of his 104 in the best 1/4 of his games 42%
Dobson had 18 of 37 in 1/4 of his games 49%
gronk had 17 of 39 in 2/7 of his games (closest to 1/4 you can divide his season) 44%
Thompkins had 16 of 32 in 1/4 of his games 50%
Vereen had 24 of 47 in 1/4 of his games 51%
Hooman had 8 of his 12 in 1/4 of his games 67%

The average is 47% of all Patriots receivers catches were made in the best 1/4 of their games.

I guess the entire team is great 1/4 of the time and doesnt earn their money 75% of the time which is why we are 12-4.

 

[SalemPats]

Its just a red herring argument.

Amedola had 26 of his 54 catches in the best 1/4 of his games. 48%
Edelman had 44 of his 104 in the best 1/4 of his games 42%
Dobson had 18 of 37 in 1/4 of his games 49%
gronk had 17 of 39 in 2/7 of his games (closest to 1/4 you can divide his season) 44%
Thompkins had 16 of 32 in 1/4 of his games 50%
Vereen had 24 of 47 in 1/4 of his games 51%
Hooman had 8 of his 12 in 1/4 of his games 67%

The average is 47% of all Patriots receivers catches were made in the best 1/4 of their games.

I guess the entire team is great 1/4 of the time and doesnt earn their money 75% of the time which is why we are 12-4.

I think we can say outside of Edelman (who emerged after the few couple of weeks) they have been inconsistent.

 

[Archeryaddict12]

I fixed it for ya. He was a pretty big disappointment, I believe both Dobson and Thompson would have surpassed him if they had stayed healthy.

Hahaha, whole career. Lol, actually by that logic, Dobson and KT have been injured their whole career. Amendola has 2 full healthy seasons under his belt. Doesn't Edelman have 1?? You guys really like to exaggerate stuff.

 

[Ring 6]

I think we can say outside of Edelman (who emerged after the few couple of weeks) they have been inconsistent.

Not really, this just shows that in the NFL it is common that recievers have ups and downs week to week.
Getting nearly half your production in 1/4 of your games and the other half in 3/4s of your games in not an unusual thing. Game plans, coverages, opponents change week to week. Is this earth shattering? No. But it is very valid to blow up the silly argument invented by the Amendola hater to pretend this is something wrong with him.

 

[JackBauer]

I fixed it for ya. He was a pretty big disappointment, I believe both Dobson and Thompson would have surpassed him if they had stayed healthy.

I like Dobson and Thompkins, but had Amendola also stayed healthy I feel pretty confident calling this notion absurd.

 

[SalemPats]

Not really, this just shows that in the NFL it is common that recievers have ups and downs week to week.
Getting nearly half your production in 1/4 of your games and the other half in 3/4s of your games in not an unusual thing. Game plans, coverages, opponents change week to week. Is this earth shattering? No. But it is very valid to blow up the silly argument invented by the Amendola hater to pretend this is something wrong with him.

It's not hating on Amendola but he's been 60/650 guy, we were expecting with Brady that he would be an 80-90/1000+ player like Welker. Fortunately Edelman has emerged as that guy. Amendola, either injured or performance related hasn't played as good as expected. It doesn't mean he can't, but for us to win the SB he's going to have to step up his game.

 

[Ring 6]

It's not hating on Amendola but he's been 60/650 guy, we were expecting with Brady that he would be an 80-90/1000+ player like Welker. Fortunately Edelman has emerged as that guy. Amendola, either injured or performance related hasn't played as good as expected. It doesn't mean he can't, but for us to win the SB he's going to have to step up his game.

I didn't say you were hating on him. The post you quoted belittled him has a guy who has a few good games and year and is average or worse and doesn't earn his pay the rest of the year'.
I was simply pointing out that this opinion was ignorant of fact.

Also the 'he has to step it up for us to win the SB' is in dispute with those facts, as most WRs 'step it up' in 1/4 to 1/3 of there games, so SOMEONE must, but it doesnt have to be any of the WRs and it could be (and very well might be) a different one each game.

 

[Galeb]

If the Pats make it to the superbowl, expect a cortisone shot and huge game from Amendola.... if they don't elect to give him the shot sooner.

 

[SalemPats]

I didn't say you were hating on him. The post you quoted belittled him has a guy who has a few good games and year and is average or worse and doesn't earn his pay the rest of the year'.
I was simply pointing out that this opinion was ignorant of fact.

Wow, you really jumped to conclusions there. We've all watched the games and seen how Amendola went from the #1 target in pre-season and buffalo to the #3/4 when Gronk/Edelman were playing, maybe because of injury or inconsistent play. He had 2 monster games and the rest he's been a 3-5/50-60 guy. All I'm saying is that with Gronk out, he's going to have to emerge these playoffs as a great #2. If we want to win the SB we're going to need at least 8/80 in the games. We have a good offense in Indy, the Broncos game will be a shootout. We're going to have to score a lot to win.

 

[SalemPats]

You have to admit Amendola hasn't blown us away this year. We expected him to do what Edelman did this year.

 

[PatsFan2]

As far as we know DA is not on IR so he can only help us. I think Danny has shook the fragile label lets hope Gronk can do the same one of these years. We are going to NEED DA Big Time going forward and I think he's going to step up. Him and JE have similar playing styles anyway they just know how to get open.

 

[letekro]

It's pretty obvious, just by looking at him run now versus in game one, that he's still hindered by the groin.

extremely obvious. People need to go back and watch the preseason and see how dynamic he was. He's still a quality player, but we won't see the real DA until next year.

 

[PatsFan2]

You have to admit Amendola hasn't blown us away this year. We expected him to do what Edelman did this year.

But for the most part he has played with that nagging injury he's a Tough Guy in my Book. Many other players would have probably shut it down but DA didn't he's has earned is $5Mill as far as I am concerned.

 

[primetime]

Wow, you really jumped to conclusions there. We've all watched the games and seen how Amendola went from the #1 target in pre-season and buffalo to the #3/4 when Gronk/Edelman were playing, maybe because of injury or inconsistent play. He had 2 monster games and the rest he's been a 3-5/50-60 guy. All I'm saying is that with Gronk out, he's going to have to emerge these playoffs as a great #2. If we want to win the SB we're going to need at least 8/80 in the games. We have a good offense in Indy, the Broncos game will be a shootout. We're going to have to score a lot to win.

When Gronk is healthy, he's always going to be the #1 target because he's an historically dominant player. After that, it's anyone's guess who's going to get the majority of looks in a given week. It might be Edelman, it might be Vereen, it might be Amendola, it may be one of the other receivers. Over the course of the year, it tended to be Edelman, especially when Gronk was injured - his great play aside, he was the only target on the team to suit up in every game.

 

[Brady6]

Its just a red herring argument.

Amedola had 26 of his 54 catches in the best 1/4 of his games. 48%
Edelman had 44 of his 104 in the best 1/4 of his games 42%
Dobson had 18 of 37 in 1/4 of his games 49%
gronk had 17 of 39 in 2/7 of his games (closest to 1/4 you can divide his season) 44%
Thompkins had 16 of 32 in 1/4 of his games 50%
Vereen had 24 of 47 in 1/4 of his games 51%
Hooman had 8 of his 12 in 1/4 of his games 67%

The average is 47% of all Patriots receivers catches were made in the best 1/4 of their games.

I guess the entire team is great 1/4 of the time and doesnt earn their money 75% of the time which is why we are 12-4.

Edelman had at least 5 receptions in 12 of 16 games, these were the 4 games in which he did not:

@Bengals
vs. Dolphins
vs. Steelers
@ Panthers

The team’s record was 2-2 in those games, the Bengals game was the when Amendola returned from his groin injury and the other 3 games were at midseason when Amendola and Gronkowski were both back the Patriots were attempting to integrate them both as the top 2 targets, Edelman was targeted 21 times in those 4 games (5.25 TPG) in the other 12 games Edelman was targeted 130 times (10.3 TPG).

Vereen has at least 75 total yards in 5 of his 8 games played, 1 of the games he did not was the game against the Ravens when he left at the beginning of the 2nd quarter and the other was last week against Buffalo where he had 45 total yards and 1 touchdown despite the fact Blount and Ridley took the bulk of the snaps. Vereen had 1 poor game this season and it was in a game we lost @ Dolphins.

Gronkowski played 6 full games he had 5+ receptions in 5 of the 6 games and 90+ receiving yards and 1 touchdown in 4 of the 6 games.

Dobson, Thompkins and Boyce are all rookies so inconsistency is expected.

Gronkowski played 6 full games he had 5+ receptions in 5 of the 6 games and 90+ receiving yards and 1 touchdown in 4 of the 6 games.

The primary difference between Amendola and the other players you’ve named is they’re not being paid as a top 30 player at their position in the NFL. Amendola is the 26th highest paid receiver in the NFL and he, Cruz and Welker are the highest paid slot receivers in the NFL.

There is also the small matter of Amendola having an average annual salary of $5,700, 000, every other player that started the season with us that has been used in a receiving capacity this year combines for an average annual salary of $5,472,048.

• Vereen - $865,288
• Dobson - $857,093
• Edelman - $765,000
• Mulligan - $715,000
• Josh Boyce - $659,250
• Hooman - $630,000
• Thompkins - $495,833
• Bolden - $484,584

The difference between good players and great players is the ability to do it week in and week out, Amendola is being paid like a great slot receiver and he is not playing like that.

 

[letekro]

Edelman had at least 5 receptions in 12 of 16 games, these were the 4 games in which he did not:

@Bengals
vs. Dolphins
vs. Steelers
@ Panthers

The team’s record was 2-2 in those games, the Bengals game was the when Amendola returned from his groin injury and the other 3 games were at midseason when Amendola and Gronkowski were both back the Patriots were attempting to integrate them both as the top 2 targets, Edelman was targeted 21 times in those 4 games (5.25 TPG) in the other 12 games Edelman was targeted 130 times (10.3 TPG).

Vereen has at least 75 total yards in 5 of his 8 games played, 1 of the games he did not was the game against the Ravens when he left at the beginning of the 2nd quarter and the other was last week against Buffalo where he had 45 total yards and 1 touchdown despite the fact Blount and Ridley took the bulk of the snaps. Vereen had 1 poor game this season and it was in a game we lost @ Dolphins.

Gronkowski played 6 full games he had 5+ receptions in 5 of the 6 games and 90+ receiving yards and 1 touchdown in 4 of the 6 games.

Dobson, Thompkins and Boyce are all rookies so inconsistency is expected.

Gronkowski played 6 full games he had 5+ receptions in 5 of the 6 games and 90+ receiving yards and 1 touchdown in 4 of the 6 games.

The primary difference between Amendola and the other players you’ve named is they’re not being paid as a top 30 player at their position in the NFL. Amendola is the 26th highest paid receiver in the NFL and he, Cruz and Welker are the highest paid slot receivers in the NFL.

There is also the small matter of Amendola having an average annual salary of $5,700, 000, every other player that started the season with us that has been used in a receiving capacity this year combines for an average annual salary of $5,472,048.

• Vereen - $865,288
• Dobson - $857,093
• Edelman - $765,000
• Mulligan - $715,000
• Josh Boyce - $659,250
• Hooman - $630,000
• Thompkins - $495,833
• Bolden - $484,584

The difference between good players and great players is the ability to do it week in and week out, Amendola is being paid like a great slot receiver and he is not playing like that.

what is the point of going on and on about this? He's hurt, and thus can't perform up to his compensation level.

It would be one thing if you were questioning the Pats for signing an injury prone player, but you're complaining about his performance, which is limited by his injury. The ironic part is that he is getting criticized for gutting it out and at least providing some production.

 

[primetime]

You constantly harp on Amendola's salary but the context isn't there. Comparing him to a bunch of rookies on their initial contracts isn't fair. He's making less than Santonio Holmes, Miles Austin, Josh Morgan, Mike Williams, Sidney Rice, and Brian Hartline, and about the same as Devin Hester, Nate Burleson, Santana Moss, Eddie Royal, and Nate Washington. The fact that Edelman has completely (and surprisingly) outplayed his salary is not a sign that Amendola is underproducing for his worth; rather, if he was posting Welker-like numbers, he would be outproducing his salary, though relatively less than Edelman has.

 

[Ring 6]

Wow, you really jumped to conclusions there.

No conclusion jumping at all. It wasn't your post it was the one you quoted that made essentially that exact statement.

We've all watched the games and seen how Amendola went from the #1 target in pre-season and buffalo to the #3/4 when Gronk/Edelman were playing, maybe because of injury or inconsistent play. He had 2 monster games and the rest he's been a 3-5/50-60 guy. All I'm saying is that with Gronk out, he's going to have to emerge these playoffs as a great #2. If we want to win the SB we're going to need at least 8/80 in the games. We have a good offense in Indy, the Broncos game will be a shootout. We're going to have to score a lot to win.

What I am saying is we don't need any single receiver to have great games as long as someone does.
Catches by individual receivers vary from game to game dramatically. As long as we are moving the ball and scoring points, we are fine whether Amendola, Edelman or anyone has a great game or an average one individually.

 

[primetime]

Catches by individual receivers vary from game to game dramatically. As long as we are moving the ball and scoring points, we are fine whether Amendola, Edelman or anyone has a great game or an average one individually.

This, pretty much.

Edelman's great year was to some degree a story of attrition. While he was excellent for most of the year, there were games where other players were as good or better... but the faces around him changed game by game as targets ended up on the injury report.