Chiefs vs Doncos, who ya got?

[Kontradiction]

Denver will win, but it will be a close one and a more low scoring win than they're used to. Manning will get rocked a few times but, in the end, Alex Smith won't do enough to pull out the win in Denver. In Kansas City, I think the Chiefs win.

 

[dales804]

I'll go with KC because DEN lost to the only winning team it's played. Not a very good reason but I'm rolling with it!

 

[TinhWoodhead]

Broncos will torch KC - hope I'm wrong.

Denver's O have been coming down to earth but they will pull one out this week but will lose in KC.

 

[mgteich]

We certainly WANT the chiefs to win. That would put the 2nd seed well within our reach.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Denver Broncos: 41.2ppg

Average rankings of defenses they've faced:

PPG: 20.6
YPG: 23.6

The Chiefs defense is 1st and 10th, while being 1st/2nd in sacks, comp pct, opposing qbr, etc.

The Chiefs still score 23.9 ppg (14th) and puts up 317.3ypg (24th)

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Do I think the Chiefs can score 28-31 points on Denver's poor defense? Yes.
Do I think the Chiefs can roughen up the Denver WRs and get to Peyton? Yes.

31-20 Chiefs

I think alot of people are forgetting in this matchup that Denver's D is bad.

 

[supafly]

The Chiefs still score 23.9 ppg (14th)

You're probably not even going to believe me when I say this, but KC's offense actually only puts up about 17-18 pts a game, so that "23.9" stat is very misleading.

They've gotten insane production out of their defensive/special teams scoring so far this year, where they are on pace for almost a TD per game.

Thus far to date, KC's defense has scored them 6 TD's, with their special teams contributing for another TD. That is contributing to almost a full 7 pts per game.

One would think that eventually this is going to slow down, or even stop altogether. As of 2 weeks ago (when I saw the stat) Jamaal Charles was actually responsible for 44% of the overall offensive production. Over the past 3 weeks it seems that teams are keying in on him even more with 8 in the box, as his production has dipped in each one of the last 3 contests.

This all said, I agree with those who feel that they have a legitimate shot when these 2 teams meet up again in KC, where they have one of the best homefield advantages in all of football. I just don't think they'll have the horses to run with the Broncs in Denver, although I think they'll slow them down.

Alex Smith has done an excellent job of utilizing Jamaal Charles, allowing his defense to be the strength, and properly managing the game; but my concern is that their offense is just too conservative and won't be able to score enough pts to make a deep playoff run.

 

[Joker]

Manning has a high AND low ankle sprain on his right, plant leg.

To me, THAT is a huge negative.I used to wager on the NFL when I was younger...80's, 90's.Stopped when I saw the Rams/Pats Super Bowl. You look at that game and there's no way Kurt Warner doesn't tear the New England defense to shreds. You HAVE to make that bet. Everyone knew it then and it holds true now. New England flipped the script by knocking Warner senseless early...and THAT was by design. He was on Pluto until the 4th quarter. When he came to his senses he tore the Patriots to shreds...but only managed to get back to even.

This game could put similar elements into play. Manning needs to plant and throw to be effective. His arm strength is no longer enough to get him through. KC WILL rush him and hit him...unless the NFL suspends the offensive holding rules and the Denver O line tackles any threat. I think KC can surprise the experts in this game.

That being said, I wouldn't touch this one as a bettor...there's surer ways to make money on other matchups than this one...and THAT is the real key to successful betting.

 

[1960Pats]

Also, how dumb is it chiefs and broncs play twice in 3 weeks? There outta be a rule that you can't play divisional opponents twice in at LEAST 4 weeks. Takes a lot of the fun out of divisions. Should try to get those games in first couple of weeks and then have the rest near end of the season if possible.

The schedule and division setup are both idiotic.

 

[1960Pats]

Manning has a high AND low ankle sprain on his right, plant leg.

To me, THAT is a huge negative.I used to wager on the NFL when I was younger...80's, 90's.Stopped when I saw the Rams/Pats Super Bowl. You look at that game and there's no way Kurt Warner doesn't tear the New England defense to shreds. You HAVE to make that bet. Everyone knew it then and it holds true now. New England flipped the script by knocking Warner senseless early...and THAT was by design. He was on Pluto until the 4th quarter. When he came to his senses he tore the Patriots to shreds...but only managed to get back to even.

This game could put similar elements into play. Manning needs to plant and throw to be effective. His arm strength is no longer enough to get him through. KC WILL rush him and hit him...unless the NFL suspends the offensive holding rules and the Denver O line tackles any threat. I think KC can surprise the experts in this game.

That being said, I wouldn't touch this one as a bettor...there's surer ways to make money on other matchups than this one...and THAT is the real key to successful betting.

I remember talking to other Pats fans in 2001 that didn't give the team a chance against the Rams. The Pats had actually showed that they could stay with the Rams when they played them during the season. You deserved to lose badly.

The Pats beat all the Rams up in that SB, not just Kurt Warner

My last bet other than raffles or SB squares was a game that Dan Fouts Chargers team lost to Jim Zorn's Seahawks during the Air Coryell years. I bet I'm way ahead of you with the bookies.

Does poor little Peyton have a boo boo again? Let me break out the Kleenex.

 

[AzorianPats]

Closest I come to betting (besides fantasy football) is playing those football cards...

So if any of you guys want to help out a fellow Pats fan brother with some tips...It would be more than appreciated!!. Been a very expensive 2 years lol

 

[Triumph]

Yeah, it's funny how they chose to franchise Bowe and then give him a deal that pays him 5/56 (actually ends up at 6/66 with the tag from last year), and yet they NEVER target him or involve him in their gameplanning whatsoever.

Alex Smith refuses to even consider throwing the ball downfield more than 5-10 yards to anyone.

I've also noticed that teams seem to be keying in on Jamaal Charles, as he has had 3 straight games where his production has taken a pretty significant drop. It seems that defenses are finally smartening up and realizing that if you stop Charles, you are stopping 60% of their entire offensive production.

And Bingo was his name.

If Charles goes down or is worn down heading into the post season, the Chiefs are done.

 

[Triumph]

Denver Broncos: 41.2ppg

Average rankings of defenses they've faced:

PPG: 20.6
YPG: 23.6

The Chiefs defense is 1st and 10th, while being 1st/2nd in sacks, comp pct, opposing qbr, etc.

The Chiefs still score 23.9 ppg (14th) and puts up 317.3ypg (24th)

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Do I think the Chiefs can score 28-31 points on Denver's poor defense? Yes.
Do I think the Chiefs can roughen up the Denver WRs and get to Peyton? Yes.

31-20 Chiefs

I think alot of people are forgetting in this matchup that Denver's D is bad.

Denvers D is bad, but so is KCs O.

KC has not scored a TD in 6 quarters and kicking FGs is a recipe for a loss unless youre playing anemic offenses like KC has.

 

[PATRlOT]

Manning has a high AND low ankle sprain on his right, plant leg.

To me, THAT is a huge negative.I used to wager on the NFL when I was younger...80's, 90's.Stopped when I saw the Rams/Pats Super Bowl. You look at that game and there's no way Kurt Warner doesn't tear the New England defense to shreds. You HAVE to make that bet. Everyone knew it then and it holds true now. New England flipped the script by knocking Warner senseless early...and THAT was by design. He was on Pluto until the 4th quarter. When he came to his senses he tore the Patriots to shreds...but only managed to get back to even.

This game could put similar elements into play. Manning needs to plant and throw to be effective. His arm strength is no longer enough to get him through. KC WILL rush him and hit him...unless the NFL suspends the offensive holding rules and the Denver O line tackles any threat. I think KC can surprise the experts in this game.

That being said, I wouldn't touch this one as a bettor...there's surer ways to make money on other matchups than this one...and THAT is the real key to successful betting.

Betting straight up may not be wise

But I'd probably take Kansas City in a 10 point teaser, giving them up to 19 points to lose by, or just win, and I'd still win the bet...

 

[RIpats88]

I actually think the Chiefs could pull off the upset...

manning has been getting hit alot the past few games...and I dont particularly think the SD DL is anywhere near as good as KC's

a solid D-line and an increasingly immobile Manning.

I wouldnt count Alex Smith out either...remember, he went toe to toe with Drew brees in that playoff game a couple of years ago...he can sling it, but its their gameplan to play it safe with the short passes/moving the chains.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Two good teams intradivision, i'm going home and home for the wins.

 

[Uncle Rico]

Interesting tidbit from Judy Battista at NFL.com:

If the Chiefs are feeling disrespected, they might be heartened by Manning's mixed track record against top-ranked scoring defenses. Six times in his career, Manning has faced the top scoring defense in the second half of the season or in the playoffs. In those games, his teams went 3-3, with Manning giving up eight interceptions while throwing just six touchdowns and averaging 201.8 passing yards per contest -- well below his average of 361 yards this season.

Pretty good piece overall, worth a read.

Also, as an aside: Forecast calls for temps to be only two degrees warmer at kickoff time Monday Night in Charlotte than at kickoff Sunday afternoon in Denver. FWIW.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

i have denver...will win this one...lose the one in KC...

 

[RelocatedPatFan]

OT: Chiefs @Broncs - it occurs to me

That NFLs much beloved Peyton Manning can only lose tonight if...if he is injured during the game and out for the season.

If he wins, then he'll be the ultimate warrior, gritting out what will doubtless be dubbed as a history performance. I mean this guy is the ultimate preparation/practice week players (sadly its true, but we have one of our own as well) and he's resting up.

If he loses, then "the media" will have the injury excuse to fall back on and the team wasn't able to help him carry the load. His legend will grow as his gutsy performance will show the mettle of his character.

Love him or hate him, the media will put a very positive spin on the outcome of the game.

 

[Tunescribe]

Re: OT: Chiefs @Broncs - it occurs to me

That NFLs much beloved Peyton Manning can only lose tonight if...if he is injured during the game and out for the season.

If he wins, then he'll be the ultimate warrior, gritting out what will doubtless be dubbed as a history performance. I man this guy is the ultimate preparation/practice week players (sadly its true, but we have one of our own as well) and he's resting up.

If he loses, then "the media" will have the injury excuse to fall back on and the team wasn't able to help him carry the load. His legend will grow as his gutsy performance will show the mettle of his character.

Love him or hate him, the media will put a very positive spin on the outcome of the game.

I have great respect for Peyton as a competitor. Can't stand the media-driven commercial monstrosity he has become.

 

[Rob0729]

Re: OT: Chiefs @Broncs - it occurs to me

To be blunt, who gives a ****? What has the media ball washing of Manning done to help him win championships?

Let the media ball wash Peyton. I know it is sickening, but it is a fact of the media. Peyton Manning gets ratings.

Besides, the media ball washes Brady a lot more than people on this board likes to admit. Yes, it isn't nearly as much as Manning, but you go to other teams' boards and you see people complain about all the ball wash Brady and the Pats.