Randy Moss.....

[Ring 6]

For the right price why not.

Many reasons, the primary being that with a shortened offseason you dont want to take reps away from other players to find out if the guy you found not good enough to help you last year has gotten better with another year of age.

We gave him away last year. Why would we ****** the growth of our other WRs to see if Moss is the exception to the rule that as your skills decline with age, they dont miraculous improve with more age.

 

[Mossachusetts]

Many reasons, the primary being that with a shortened offseason you dont want to take reps away from other players to find out if the guy you found not good enough to help you last year has gotten better with another year of age.
We gave him away last year. Why would we ****** the growth of our other WRs to see if Moss is the exception to the rule that as your skills decline with age, they dont miraculous improve with more age.

Like i said, for the right price why not. It doesn't matter what WE think anyway lol.

 

[Ring 6]

Like i said, for the right price why not. It doesn't matter what WE think anyway lol.

Well, I listed the reasons why not. If it doesnt matter what we think, then why are you posting what you think?

 

[Uncle Rico]

Sign him, let him have a great camp catching passes from Hoyer and Mallett, then trade him for a 2012 #2.

 

[RussFrancis]

Yeah, "why not" is just not good enough reason. He did close to nothing for 3 different teams last year. Basically shut it down. Quit. Definitely held back from making a play against us in the Vikings game, unlike anything Id really ever seen. He literally did not try and make a play that was there to be made. I just dont think he respects the game enough. Imo, he seems to play for all the wrong reasons.

 

[goheels22002]

Moss and Brady have unbelievable chemistry when Moss takes his head out of his butt and decides to play football. His experience looking for the grass to be greener outside Foxboro proved his best situation is waving his arm in the air while running down the field and for Brady to hit him in stride. Branch and Brady have a similar connection on the outside. Branch and Moss wide with Welker in the slot would pose a small problem to most defenses. I like it. If Moss proves he's lost it or acts like an ***** again, cut him or trade him for a bag of balls and move on. Why not is the right answer.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Moss and Brady have unbelievable chemistry when Moss takes his head out of his butt and decides to play football. His experience looking for the grass to be greener outside Foxboro proved his best situation is waving his arm in the air while running down the field and for Brady to hit him in stride. Branch and Brady have a similar connection on the outside. Branch and Moss wide with Welker in the slot would pose a small problem to most defenses. I like it. If Moss proves he's lost it or acts like an ***** again, cut him or trade him for a bag of balls and move on. Why not is the right answer.

Why not is because for much of his career here including with Brady in 2009-10, what Moss does in practice hasn't translated to what he does on game day particularly against more competitive defenses and therefore his mere presence in TC has the potential to limit the progression of youngsters who yet have may have substantial upside.

 

[Off The Grid]

Actually, I have Moss penciled in as my early favorite for ComeBack Player of the Year.

Randy is at his very best when 99.9999% swear he's Bad Medicine.

***

Even so...

It simply won't last.

Once that Confidence is restored, and he starts getting Love, again...WATCH OUT.

PASS.

 

[Triumph]

Moss is a 1 trick pony - all he wants to do is catch the long bomb which is a low percentage completion pass.

I like the Hernadez/Gronkowski style passing offense better but, thats not to say NE should not look at a deep threat FA. Just not Moss.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Moss is a 1 trick pony - all he wants to do is catch the long bomb which is a low percentage completion pass.

I like the Hernadez/Gronkowski style passing offense better but, thats not to say NE should not look at a deep threat FA. Just not Moss.

The only way he catches long bombs these days is if the CB falls and safety is out of position.

In case you haven't seen Randy play last year,he has no longer the talent to Seperate from cornerbacks or willing to do what he can to get open.

It appears to me that once the cornerback is physical with him within 5 yards from the LOS he goes off into lala land and is irrelevant in play...physical corners will shut down Mr. Moss...everytime...Heck even average corners can hold him under 30 YPG

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

The only way he catches long bombs these days is if the CB falls and safety is out of position.

In case you haven't seen Randy play last year,he has no longer the talent to Seperate from cornerbacks or willing to do what he can to get open.

It appears to me that once the cornerback is physical with him within 5 yards from the LOS he goes off into lala land and is irrelevant in play...physical corners will shut down Mr. Moss...everytime...Heck even average corners can hold him under 30 YPG

Besides blind speed, the physical corner domination is what distinguishes Moss' past great seasons from post 2007 to the the present. In 2008 it became obvious what smart DCs had noticed previously in a few plays as a developing tendency. The Randy Moss who used to go up for the ball and take it away from corners was a thing of the past. As DCs starting with the JETs began nailing him in the 1st 5 yards and then with the more talented CBs going up and challenging Randy for the ball, his emerging tendency to give way when confronted physically became his typical style with just a few occasional flashes of past greatness ball hawking.

 

[Triumph]

The only way he catches long bombs these days is if the CB falls and safety is out of position.

In case you haven't seen Randy play last year,he has no longer the talent to Seperate from cornerbacks or willing to do what he can to get open.

It appears to me that once the cornerback is physical with him within 5 yards from the LOS he goes off into lala land and is irrelevant in play...physical corners will shut down Mr. Moss...everytime...Heck even average corners can hold him under 30 YPG

I saw Moss beat Revis long. Revis didnt pull up lame until he reached the endzone, but Moss had him beat all the way. Not every NFL defense has elite CBs to handle Moss.

I cannot judge what Moss did in Minny or Tenn when he was on the Vikings a week and Tenn didnt have a QB.

 

[Ring 6]

I saw Moss beat Revis long. Revis didnt pull up lame until he reached the endzone, but Moss had him beat all the way. Not every NFL defense has elite CBs to handle Moss.

I cannot judge what Moss did in Minny or Tenn when he was on the Vikings a week and Tenn didnt have a QB.

Interesting that you use one play, one where the corner was injured and dismiss the fact that his inablity to beat man coverage AFTER Revis left the game was the primary reason we lost.

You can't dismiss his horrendous play for 3/4 of a season because you can find an excuse. He played more than 1 game in Minn and WRs that barely belong in the NFL outproduced him with the same QB in Tenn.

Defenses would no longer be putting their elite corner on Moss.

 

[Snake Eyes]

Intersting that you use one play, one where the corner was injured and dismiss the fact that his inablity to beat man coverage AFTER Revis left the game was the primary reason we lost.

You can't dismiss his horrendous play for 3/4 of a season because you can find an excuse. He played more than 1 game in Minn and WRs that barely belong in the NFL outproduced him with the same QB in Tenn.

Defenses would no longer be putting their elite corner on Moss.

The Jets were later using Cromartie on Moss, who seemed to match up very favorably against Moss, who barely has any height advantage on him.

 

[Ring 6]

The Jets were later using Cromartie on Moss, who seemed to match up very favorably against Moss, who barely has any height advantage on him.

Cromartie is an average at the very best corner, and he covered Moss man to man almost the entire second half, and Moss did nothing. In 2007 if they tried that Moss would have had 200 yards and 3 TDs in a half.

 

[Raymond]

I'm tired of reading the same foolish comments of; "sign him to an incentive laden contract, what is there to lose? Just cut him if he doesn't produce"

From BB's perspective, he had a player last year that was being paid handsomely in year 3 of a 27 mil contract. Said player, in week one's post game presser went on a 16 minute rant of how he's not getting any future love with a new contract yet. He feels unwanted, me, me, me etc etc. Then he went out and put in halfhearted efforts in the remaining games. Moss knew exactly what is expected of a "Team player" on the NEP and it would not include the pissing in the wheaties he did when the team won to start the season. IMO BB would never want to put out the vibe that he would look the other way when you break rule #1. Team first. Win the game first. It's the whole point in why they exist. Everything else is just noise.

Bill will not want him back. Write it down.

 

[ausbacker]

Intersting that you use one play, one where the corner was injured and dismiss the fact that his inablity to beat man coverage AFTER Revis left the game was the primary reason we lost.

You can't dismiss his horrendous play for 3/4 of a season because you can find an excuse. He played more than 1 game in Minn and WRs that barely belong in the NFL outproduced him with the same QB in Tenn.

Defenses would no longer be putting their elite corner on Moss.

Revis definitely pulled up lame after Moss broke on him and pulled in the ridiculous 1 handed catch. I'd love Moss back on the Patriots but I'm not sure which Randy we'd be getting.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Revis definitely pulled up lame after Moss broke on him and pulled in the ridiculous 1 handed catch. I'd love Moss back on the Patriots but I'm not sure which Randy we'd be getting.

They were joking on the radio today that his agent had the stones to say he's the Randy of old...without realizing that could mean any number of things...

 

[ausbacker]

They were joking on the radio today that his agent had the stones to say he's the Randy of old...without realizing that could mean any number of things...

The moment Drew Rosenhaus went on his Terrelle Pryor rant it confirmed to me that every single sports agent in the US & A is a bullshít artist.

2007 Randy Moss would be nice though.. so would the 2004 defense whilst we're at it.

 

[Ring 6]

The moment Drew Rosenhaus went on his Terrelle Pryor rant it confirmed to me that every single sports agent in the US & A is a bullshít artist.

2007 Randy Moss would be nice though.. so would the 2004 defense whilst we're at it.

Unfortunately 2007 Moss simply does not exist any more. You can't reverse the decline of skills.

I would suppose Moss could be a reasonably effect receiver even with diminished skills, if he accepted that, knew he had to give 100% every play, knew he had to go over the middle, sell out to make plays, etc, but thats just not part of Randy. Its the same as wishing a hard working guy had more phyisical skills.