Pryor fined 7500 for hit on Favre...

[BTTA]

But...if Favre's chin hadn't started bleeding, would the league have given that play a second glance? It seems to me that this is a fine based on the outcome, not the action.

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[reflexblue]

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I don't think it was the blood because there wasn't much. I think it was the sight if Farve Curled up in a Fetal position that did it.

 

[FalconHeavy]

No he didn't. He called it a clean, by-the-book hit. (paraphrase).

Goodell is a sack of horse hockey and needs to be removed from the NFL for the good of the game.

how long we have to suffer this guy ? when is the tenure ending ?

 

[Deus Irae]

If I were Bill, I would pay Pryor's fine out of my own pocket.

He can't. It's not allowed.

 

[CheeseMonkeys]

LMAO, ****ing ridiculous. I'm sorry but that is BS.

 

[FirstAndGoal]

The rule is pretty clear.

And his helmet hit the players head.

I am okay with this. It is a pretty small fine (relatively speaking as NFL fines go) with no suspension as it should be given the lack of past offenses and apparent lack of intent.

If Brady had been on the receiving end the board would be going crazy for the lack of a suspension.

This is the rule


" using any part of a players helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/hairline parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily; although such violent or unnecessary use of the helmet is impermissible against any opponent, game officials will give special attention in administering this rule to protect those players who are in virtually defenseless postures."



So which one did he do? Did he spear, ram, or butt? He did none of the above.

 

[PlainOldEd]

When do we find out if he files an appeal?

 

[TriplecHamp]

I wan't Pryor to go Helmet to skull on Goodell.

 

[Off The Grid]

Re: Will Pryor get fined and/or suspended?

Worst.

Commissioner.

Ever.

No lie.

Goodell has NO Honor.

He is vile, lying, thieving SCUM.

I wish him ILL.

 

[Off The Grid]

Anybody know of anyone starting a collection to pay Pryor's fine for him??

I, for one, would be HONORED to contribute.

For more reasons than ONE.

 

[IcyPatriot]

At least its relatively small.

so we can call $7500 Favre-Fines ... like little Brett.

 

[Metaphors]

No, you were "supposed" to complain when the NFL sent out a video that said players are responsible for the END RESULT and it doesn't matter what they aim for.

That is the entire point. Here is the letter from Goodell that went with the video (emphasis mine):

TO NFL PLAYERS AND COACHES:

One of our highest priorities is player safety. We all know that football is a tough game that includes hard contact. But that carries with it an obligation to do all that we can to protect all players from unnecessary injury caused by dangerous techniques from those who play outside the rules.

The video shown today shows what kind of hits are against the rules, but also makes clear that you can play a hard, physical game within the rules.

Violations of the playing rules that unreasonably put the safety of another player in jeopardy have no place in the game, and that is especially true in the case of hits to the head and neck. Accordingly, from this point forward, you should be clear on the following points:

1. Players are expected to play within the rules. Those who do not will face increased discipline, including suspensions, starting with the first offense.

2. Coaches are expected to teach playing within the rules. Failure to do so will subject both the coach and the employing club to discipline.

3. Game officials have been directed to emphasize protecting players from illegal and dangerous hits, and particularly from hits to the head and neck. In appropriate cases, they have the authority to eject players from a game.

Would anybody consider the technique used by Pryor to be "dangerous"? I challenge anyone to find a difference between Pryor's technique and what Alford did to Brady in the Super Bowl. Identical except for the difference in how Brady and Favre absorbed the impact. How is THAT within Pryor's control?

Points #1 and #2 in the letter implicitly suggest that if you teach the proper technique and players use that technique, you shouldn't have a problem with the league. It would be explicit except it describes the negative, leaving the positive open to interpretation ("if you do teach the proper technique and players use that technique, you may still get disciplined").

The league is literally saying that 2 players can do the exact same thing...with one being lauded by the league for tough, physical play and the other being fined for "breaking the rules". Take the Ray Lewis hit on Keller in the league video. Lewis lined up his target area early, leaving Keller plenty of time to duck his head. If Keller did that, Lewis' hit goes from a league example on how to play the game to a violation that draws a fine and possible suspension.

That means that a player can't possibly control whether or not they are playing within the rules. They can do everything right (which Pryor did), but they don't control how the target moves just before and even AFTER they make contact. Fine and suspend players when they did have complete control over the situation (like Meriweather) and the result is negligent or malicious play. If you are just going to punish undesirable outcomes, stop the pretense that there is a correct way to play/coach that avoids penalties. All you are doing is trying to minimize the hit to your bank account and pray that you avoid suspension.

 

[TrueBeliever]

Re: Will Pryor get fined and/or suspended?

Worst. Commissioner. Ever.

FOr the record, I didn't think the hit warranted a fine, but I heard other people saying he would probably get one. But why did it take almost a week? Cripes.

 

[OldNEPatsFan]

It should be clear to anyone that can read and comprehend that Pryor should be fined according to rules


Defenseless players (a term that includes a player in the act of or just after throwing a pass) may not be struck anywhere with the "hairline" or forehead part of the helmet. Also, the rules prohibit the defender from "striking [the defenseless player] in a way that causes the defensive player's helmet or facemask to forcibly strike the defenseless player's head, neck, or face -- even if the initial contact of the defender's helmet or facemask is lower than the defenseless player's neck."

 

[ausbacker]

Ridiculous is all that came to mind. I'm sure Goodell will find a way to fine teams for running up the score soon. Perhaps he can fine officials for screwing up repeated decisions in Super Bowls costing sides championships.

 

[pencilneckgeek]

I thought the purpose of the rule was to prevent concussions, not scratches.

Does Gary Bettman have a job, because he'd be step up at this point.

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

The NFL should pay Pryor. He gave the NFL and the media something else to talk about in regards to Favre

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Don't have much to add to what's already been said except **** YOU ROGER GOODELL

or has that also been said?

 

[Wheelssps]

I just watched highlights from the 2001 SB, and I was laughing at the hits in that game. Most people laud that game as great, hard nosed defense, (which it was) but under the current rules the Patriots would have had about 20 penalties on them by halftime, with St. Louis having 10 or so. Both teams were being physical and I really didn't see much in the way of the junk, dirty hits like Merriweather on Todd Heap, but I did see plenty of helmets hitting other helmets after good clean initial contact with another part of the body (Pyror hit) and plenty of hits where helmets hit inadvertantly whith two players going after the same ball or same tackle (Dunta Robinson type hit).

Interestingly, I also saw several Marshall Faulk and Antoine Smith runs (more often Antoine) where both players lowered their helmets to punish the defenders, and recent fines have really only focused on defensive players and not on powerful offensive players like running backs meeting defenders head on.

 

[DaBruinz]

This is essentially the same hit Vince was fined $15K for after also being flagged for it. I think it was against Buffalo, can't remember which QB since they change almost weekly up there... What Myron needs to to at this point is call Bianca. She will make sure they at least cut the fine and note the contact was incidental... Contact (ultimately) on this type of hit (which in and of itself is perfectly textbook legal) is almost unavoidable due to physics. But they have been consistently fining the incidental contact for emphasis.

Actually, Wilfork's hit was at the waist of Losman/Edwards (I don't remember which). And his slid DOWN. So they called him for going low. What they failed to mention was that Brad Butler has blocked Wilfork into the QB and that is why he slid down.

But Pryor should get Bianca to help him cause that woman rocks when it comes to fighting league fines.