Owners to vote on 18 games season

[stinkypete]

Re: Owners to Vote on18 games season

I love the idea of a longer season but it's not necessary to play more games.

Each weekend I miss great games because they're not televised in NE or they conflict with the Patriots or with other great games.

Stretch out the season with more bye weeks and ratings per game will rise so the NFL can make more money without increasing their costs. Players have more time to recover from injuries leading to more meaningful games and playoffs. Teams have more time to learn the playbook and to practice together in a sport that has become ridiculously complex.

And if there's more than one bye week, it won't be so obvious to my wife when I'm planning our vacation around it.

I love this idea. The best solutions are always the simplest.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

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Interesting. I thought the fan reaction was pretty positive when talk of the 18 game season started. I agree that the idea seems reckless given concussion and now potential ALS issues. I love the concept in the vein that I love football, but this idea seems wrong place, wrong time.

I think since becoming commissioner, that Roger Goodell has established a pattern of poor decision making and poor judgement. The 18 game season is just another in a long line of poor calls.

 

[Frezo]

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Interesting. I thought the fan reaction was pretty positive when talk of the 18 game season started. I agree that the idea seems reckless given concussion and now potential ALS issues. I love the concept in the vein that I love football, but this idea seems wrong place, wrong time.
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Absolutely build a second bye week into the schedule. Make sure it is systematic too. If it's going to be an 18 week season, there should be at least 6 weeks between byes. And teams who play on Thursdays should get byes the week before. Teams who play on Mondays should get byes the week after. There's no reason not to look after your employees like that.

Good thoughts. I say expand the roster by 4 players from the PS for weeks 15-18 and into the POs.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

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If they vote on 18 games per season, every player's annual salary should automatically and immediately increase by 13% to be fair.

That's my biggest problem with it. In the new CBA, the NFL will want to scale back rookie salaries and also scale back the overall revenue given to players.

They're going to ask for this after essentially shortening players' careers. An 8 year veteran in the new system would essentially have played 9 seasons under the old 16 game schedule. Tell a RB those two extra games each year won't mean much

If nothing else, it just seems like terrible timing to push this now when there's so much fear of not having football next season because they won't be able to agree on a new deal.

 

[upstater1]

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The owners are greedy pigs.

It sucks watching your team play with key players injured.

 

[Wolfpack]

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At the meetings this year the owners are going ot vote on making the season 18 games starting in 2012 and dropping 2 preseason games. all the reports sound like it'll pass by a lot

so what so you all think of this and yes they can vote on it with out talking to the players about it. they'll ahve to get the players to agree after but there is nothing stoping them from voting it in

Don't listen to the doomsayers - this is wonderful news and will be a tremendous success!

 

[Wolfpack]

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If they vote on 18 games per season, every player's annual salary should automatically and immediately increase by 13% to be fair.

It goes without saying that in order to get the NFLPA to sign on to the 18 game season, the players (as a group) will be compensated in some way. It may be a 13% raise across the board, but it also may be a bigger piece of the revenue percentage pie.

 

[efeene]

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The superbowl will be the day before Presidents day, which will give
most people the day after the superbowl off from work.

Whatever necessary to make this happen Give the players a 15% raise.. more on rosters.. an extra bye week.. just allow me to have the day after the Super Bowl off please haha.

On a serious note though - player contracts must include preseason games and all mandatory workouts and such as part of their salary right? If a player signs a 1 year 4 million dollar deal in March it isnt just for the 16 regular season games starting in September right? If that was the case all workouts/training camp/and pre season games would be done for free in theory. They must be getting paid something for the preseason games. Just saying that if they replace 2 preseason games with regular season games it isnt going to be as cut and dried as "give them the equivalent of two extra regular season paychecks".

 

[patsfan13]

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Terrible idea. I am totally against this, bad for the players, especially teams that make the playoffs. Imagine a WC team that makes the SB 22 real games you gotta be kidding me.

 

[ScrewDrvr]

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the players are still required to play the exact amount of games. How anyone could be AGAINST watching more MEANINGFUL football is beyond me...

 

[spacecrime]

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Fans want it. Almost all fans.

Some fans are in denial or just dumb, but the owners know that fans will watch every game. Fans vote with their attendance, at the games and in front of their TV. Goodell and the owners know what fans really want. Regardless of what they say, they want 18 games and will watch all the games.

There may be a few people who will only watch 16 games, and I applaud them for meaning what they say. All the rest say they don't want it, but when week 18 and 19 roll around, they will avidly watch the games.

I love to watch football. I now watch 4 phony games and 16+ real games. Nothing would make me happier thatn watching 2 phony games and 18 real games, unless it is watching 2 phony games and 20 real games.

Go Pats. Yeah football.

 

[pdangle]

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They plan to add a 2nd buy week which will make the season 20 weeks.
The superbowl will be the day before Presidents day, which will give
most people the day after the superbowl off from work.

Holy sweet jeezus, is this true? Men have been made Kings, Emperors and Senators for less!

I hereby forfeit all my, now quite obvious, petty and poorly thought out rationals that I've spewed before, and henceforth stand solely behind THIS AND ONLY THIS platform for the addition of two regular season NFL games.

:americaflag:

 

[AzPatsFan]

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When the season goes to 18 regular season games there are some necessary cleanup changes that have to go with it.

1) Add 5 positions to the roster, so walking wounded don't have to play and get more severely injured.

2) Cleanup the nonsensical 47 active and allow all roster players to be available to play. With the longer season players will be dinged; let reserves take their places.

3) Anyone going on IR is no longer lost for the entire season. But to discourage roster stacking, require them to serve 9 games minimum, or half a season, before returning.

4) The playoffs are a "second" season. So any one healthy and on IR no matter how long there, can be brought back for the playoffs, if they pass a physical. The League should want its best teams to win; and as many of its Stars available as possible to play in the Playoffs, to make its large audience Playoff teams and games as attractive as possible.

5) Add a second bye week during the season, to allow players to recover, from minor dings.

None of these changes would cost much, but would add to careers. Adding five end of roster salaries likely at league minimum should not be expensive, nor unreasonable.

 

[eagle eye]

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I love the thought of 18 games but I understand the down side to it. I say stretch it out over 9 months and give teams lots of weeks off. 6 months is a long, long break between seasons for fans.

 

[SunnyDenmark]

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3 cents

1) not sure can blanket say there will be more injuries (longer season). As the extra 2 games will replace the 2 preseason games. And you can't say players are not trying their hardest in the preseason as most of the games it is bubble players fighting for their career lives. The rate of injury (statistically speaking) would depend on which group of players you are addressing:
a) For the future practice squad players, future Walmart shelf stockers and roster bubble players (third stringers not on 45 man gameday roster) - their 'season' will be cut in half - 4 down to 2 games. So would expect less injuries to this group as they rarely play in the regular season - or only a few snaps per game or limited to special teams.

b) However with your starters - who don't play so many pre-season game downs - definately adding 2 extra regular season games should increase the injury rate to that group of players.

2) Adding 2 regular season games could widen the division races even more in weak divisions where you can have a team like Colts / Chargers resting their starters for last 3 games. Goodell would have to schedule even more division games at the end of the season to compensate. These extra games would theoretically come during the winter months. Which would favor outdoor cold weather teams more. So Pats hosting an extra winter home game should favor more the cold weather home teams. (think Pats vs. Dolphins).

3) Big 'middle class' (depth) teams like NEP should due better due to more injuries to starters - less dropoff in talent.

those are my 3 cents (inflation). Greetings from Denmark

 

[NEGoldenAge]

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Huge mistake.

From everything I've read, even the fans don't want this.

True football fans don't want it, but there is a significant ammount of khaki wearin, golf clappin sissies who want it just to get more perceived value out of their season tickets.

 

[MassPats38]

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If players were not human, this would be an awesome idea to a football fan. The fact of the matter is they are human, so this is a lousy idea.

The damage the players take during a 16 game season will not magically heal during an extra bye week (players do not appear to jump to 100% health during the regular bye week). And cutting two preseason games will not offset the wear and tear in additional two regular season games given the fact starters play a fraction of the preseason games. Expanding rosters, while it may offset some damage,may also dilute the quality of play (how many of the roster cuts below 53 does the typical fan actually miss in the regular season?).

If the NFL is concerned about player health, as evidenced by the recent battery of contact rules, then it will need to pass more of them to protect players during the season. That will change the nature of the game in the reality of the longer season. As a "true fan" of the sport, I will always choose quality over quantity. It the preseason is too long and meaningless, lose some of the preseason games and offset that revenue loss over the remaining games (as if ticket prices will not increase annually regardless of any schedule changes).

 

[NEGoldenAge]

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Don't listen to the doomsayers - this is wonderful news and will be a tremendous success!

Perhaps if you actually watched the games instead of chit chatting with your "colleagues", you'd understand how brutal of a sport it is, and how beat up many of the players are by the end of the season.

 

[Sean Pa Patriot]

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I understand, the people uproar for the players... But they are giving up 2 preseason games for 2 regular season games.. most people that pay reg price to watch practice will now watch the real thing that counts... Hey more football the better.. but I dont like they will back the start of the season up 2 weeks.. they play football and christmas, but they cant play football on labor day like they used to???

 

[fgssand]

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3 cents

1) not sure can blanket say there will be more injuries (longer season). As the extra 2 games will replace the 2 preseason games. And you can't say players are not trying their hardest in the preseason as most of the games it is bubble players fighting for their career lives. The rate of injury (statistically speaking) would depend on which group of players you are addressing:
a) For the future practice squad players, future Walmart shelf stockers and roster bubble players (third stringers not on 45 man gameday roster) - their 'season' will be cut in half - 4 down to 2 games. So would expect less injuries to this group as they rarely play in the regular season - or only a few snaps per game or limited to special teams.

b) However with your starters - who don't play so many pre-season game downs - definately adding 2 extra regular season games should increase the injury rate to that group of players.

2) Adding 2 regular season games could widen the division races even more in weak divisions where you can have a team like Colts / Chargers resting their starters for last 3 games. Goodell would have to schedule even more division games at the end of the season to compensate. These extra games would theoretically come during the winter months. Which would favor outdoor cold weather teams more. So Pats hosting an extra winter home game should favor more the cold weather home teams. (think Pats vs. Dolphins).

3) Big 'middle class' (depth) teams like NEP should due better due to more injuries to starters - less dropoff in talent.

those are my 3 cents (inflation). Greetings from Denmark

One more cent:

>>16 game player eligibility rule - each player may only play in 16 of 18 games each year. While this risks watering down the product, it does not bring any more risk to the players.