3, 1st round picks in 2010 possible?

[Blizzzard]

How would everybody feel about swinging trades with 2 teams and trading 2 of our #2's for 2 #1's next year?

It's possible, judging by all the first round value in the 20's to 40's this year.

We keep 23 & 34 and roll 47 and 58 + 89 (or what have you) into 1st rounders next year. This would still leave us with at least 1 pick in every round except the 5th. (ours was traded for Lewis... but who knows, the 58+89 could include us getting a 5th back this year)

Imagine 3 first round pick in 2010?!?!?!?
That could be worked so many ways to keep us loaded for many years of drafts.
At the very least it would cause the patsfans.com servers to melt several times leading up to the '10 draft..lol.

Thoughts? have at it

 

[HEY BRO! WHAT UP?]

No, because if they have 3 #1's next year and don't like where their sitting, they'll pull the same s*** next year. Sooner or later, your going to have to make a pick and stop being scared.

 

[billdog3484]

wouldnt be the end of the world, but usually the biggest improvement in nfl players' progression is between the first and second season, so getting guys in now, so long as they are good, is important. but 3 1st rounders in 010 is ok

 

[Water Boy]

How would everybody feel about swinging trades with 2 teams and trading 2 of our #2's for 2 #1's next year?

Thoughts? have at it

I'm feeling you. I have a real hard time believing BB is going to use all 4 picks in the first two rounds. Its all about getting maximum value for each pick. Given that we don't have many significant immediate needs, a 2010 first rounder may be the best value for a couple of our 2009 second rounders.

 

[jeffbiologist]

First rounders cost ALOT more $$ than 2nd rounders. This is a cap-concious team that spends $$ on its superstars and fills holes with role players. First rounders are nice to groom, but all of em(even if they all start)cant be superstars. Right now we dont have many "middle-class" players, 2nd round picks are perfect to balance this. And in a un-capped year(potentially) I dont want to be spending $$ on rookies, I want players who will win another SB NOW!! Its been 4+years already......time to win one before TB starts playing with his kids too much.

 

[Blizzzard]

No, because if they have 3 #1's next year and don't like where their sitting, they'll pull the same s*** next year. Sooner or later, your going to have to make a pick and stop being scared.

I wouldn't think they would make that decision out of fear, but out of the fact that they would be able to get whoever they wanted in just about any draft in the immediate future.

Even if they had to package 2 firsts to get him, it would really have only cost them a 1st and a 2009 2nd.

 

[WhiZa]

No, because if they have 3 #1's next year and don't like where their sitting, they'll pull the same s*** next year. Sooner or later, your going to have to make a pick and stop being scared.

Is the glass half empty?

They can use all the first rounders they can get next year with the amount of FAs leaving the team.

 

[Blizzzard]

First rounders cost ALOT more $$ than 2nd rounders. This is a cap-concious team that spends $$ on its superstars and fills holes with role players. First rounders are nice to groom, but all of em(even if they all start)cant be superstars. Right now we dont have many "middle-class" players, 2nd round picks are perfect to balance this. And in a un-capped year(potentially) I dont want to be spending $$ on rookies, I want players who will win another SB NOW!! Its been 4+years already......time to win one before TB starts playing with his kids too much.

But they could easily roll 1 of those into a 2011 1st rounder + more later round picks... leaving us with 2 1st round picks in the next 2 drafts.

I've never heard anybody on this board complain about having 2 first round picks (in fact I heard alot of the opposite after jolly roger stole our 2nd 1st rounder last year).

I never expected so many posters to be so upset about trading 2's for 1's :confused2:

 

[Water Boy]

And in a un-capped year(potentially) I dont want to be spending $$ on rookies, I want players who will win another SB NOW!! Its been 4+years already...

Which 2nd rounders in this draft are going to get significant playing time and win us a Super Bowl?

 

[Jimke]

Better still, why not trade all our picks except the compensatory

picks for four picks in 2010 and four picks in 2011. This will give

Nick Caserio a little time to grow into the posistion.

 

[mayoclinic]

How would everybody feel about swinging trades with 2 teams and trading 2 of our #2's for 2 #1's next year?

It's possible, judging by all the first round value in the 20's to 40's this year.

We keep 23 & 34 and roll 47 and 58 + 89 (or what have you) into 1st rounders next year. This would still leave us with at least 1 pick in every round except the 5th. (ours was traded for Lewis... but who knows, the 58+89 could include us getting a 5th back this year)

Imagine 3 first round pick in 2010?!?!?!?
That could be worked so many ways to keep us loaded for many years of drafts.
At the very least it would cause the patsfans.com servers to melt several times leading up to the '10 draft..lol.

Thoughts? have at it

I think it's a simple question of value. If you think there is value at a pick, then you take it. If there isn't, then you trade it back or out.

In 2007 BB obviously didn't like the values in the latter part of the 1st round. I thought Joe Staley, Lamarr Woodley, David Harris and Alan Branch were good players, but obviously BB wasn't adequately impressed, and when SF called he traded out.

The Pats can clearly use an influx of new talent, whether this year or in 2010. We have so much ammo that we can move around and get almost any player we want, something that is usually unheard of. BB alluded to this uncommon "flexibility" in his presser today. If he decided he wants BJ Raji, Malcolm Jenkins, Andre Smith or even Aaron Curry he can go get that player. We didn't have that opportunity even in 2007 when we had 2 1st round picks. And he can probably pick up at least a couple of other potential impact players. Or he can trade around within the 1st two rounds and get a bevy of future starters. But if at any point he thinks that the values aren't there, I think he will be open to offers allowing him to trade into 2010.

 

[amazinPats]

Somebody doesn't read threads before starting one. I just started a thread 25 minutes before on the same topic. Oh well, great minds think alike, I guess!
http://www.patsfans.com/new-england...many-picks-will-ne-keep-first-two-rounds.html

How would everybody feel about swinging trades with 2 teams and trading 2 of our #2's for 2 #1's next year?

It's possible, judging by all the first round value in the 20's to 40's this year.

We keep 23 & 34 and roll 47 and 58 + 89 (or what have you) into 1st rounders next year. This would still leave us with at least 1 pick in every round except the 5th. (ours was traded for Lewis... but who knows, the 58+89 could include us getting a 5th back this year)

Imagine 3 first round pick in 2010?!?!?!?
That could be worked so many ways to keep us loaded for many years of drafts.
At the very least it would cause the patsfans.com servers to melt several times leading up to the '10 draft..lol.

Thoughts? have at it

 

[Blizzzard]

Better still, why not trade all our picks except the compensatory

picks for four picks in 2010 and four picks in 2011. This will give

Nick Caserio a little time to grow into the posistion.

Oh lord, come down off the ledge

 

[Blizzzard]

I think it's a simple question of value. If you think there is value at a pick, then you take it. If there isn't, then you trade it back or out.

In 2007 BB obviously didn't like the values in the latter part of the 1st round. I thought Joe Staley, Lamarr Woodley, David Harris and Alan Branch were good players, but obviously BB wasn't adequately impressed, and when SF called he traded out.

The Pats can clearly use an influx of new talent, whether this year or in 2010. We have so much ammo that we can move around and get almost any player we want, something that is usually unheard of. BB alluded to this uncommon "flexibility" in his presser today. If he decided he wants BJ Raji, Malcolm Jenkins, Andre Smith or even Aaron Curry he can go get that player. We didn't have that opportunity even in 2007 when we had 2 1st round picks. And he can probably pick up at least a couple of other potential impact players. Or he can trade around within the 1st two rounds and get a bevy of future starters. But if at any point he thinks that the values aren't there, I think he will be open to offers allowing him to trade into 2010.

Thank you Mayo, for that well thought out response that I was looking for.
I always value your thoughts on draft scenerios

 

[Jimke]

Oh lord, come down off the ledge

My post, of course, is quite silly. I just wonder if you have taken note
of what can happen after this season. The Patriots stand to lose
Faulk, Kaczur, Mankins, Neal, Galloway, Thomas, Watson, Bodden,
Hobbs, Bruschi, Woods, Green, Seymour, L. Smith, Wilfork, Hanson,
and Gostowski.

This is a draft year that is supposed to have depth up thru the third
round. I would prefer to have the Pats draft as many good players as
they can this year so they have a year's experience under their belt.
I think that this is preferable to having to start several rookies next
year.

 

[Bring Back Antowain!]

No, because if they have 3 #1's next year and don't like where their sitting, they'll pull the same s*** next year. Sooner or later, your going to have to make a pick and stop being scared.

Really? Stop being scared?

Its called getting the best value out of a selection. If you can trade a third rounder for a second rounder the following year, and you're not zeroing in on a player that actually has a second round grade, why wouldn't you make that deal?

Like really. Scared? Do you want Belichick to make a pick that doesn't work just because he feels he needs to make a pick eventually?

While it might be irritating for a fan to watch draft picks traded into the next year, it is simply genius, IMO.

What's your line of thinking?

 

[Jimke]

No, because if they have 3 #1's next year and don't like where their sitting, they'll pull the same s*** next year. Sooner or later, your going to have to make a pick and stop being scared.

You're right! The Patriots would not draft three #1 picks in a year.

Too much money to pay out for draft choices. They would trade

one into the following year. The only time I can remember their

drafting three #1 draft picks was Chuck Fairbainks first year.

 

[Spiral]

This may sound a little strange, but I enjoy the post-season, pre-draft months a lot more during the years when the Patriots are loaded up with picks. Even if they subsequently trade some of them into the following year on draft day, it's OK. I wouldn't mind it if BB traded for a 2010 #1. I also think it would be a good idea to trade their 3rd for a 2010 2nd. I'd make that trade every year if I could.

 

[SeauOUCH]

I love it when they pick up someone elses 1st round pick next year, it gives me a reason to watch & root against that team every week.

 

[Feep50]

I don't like the idea at all..... Trade one 2nd round pick for a mid-first next year? OK Fine by me if BB doesn't like any players in that slot.

Better yet, trade up for a player you really, really want BB..... 3 quality picks in the first 47 sounds sweeeeet to me!