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Vrabel traded to KC, compensation still unknown


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The draft is very deep in 3-4 OLB's. Maybe BB has his eyes on one or two. (Mathews and Barwin.) That would allow Thomas to move back inside next to Mayo.
 
Im not happy about it, I know Vrabel is up there,but come on what is next trade Brady and keep Cassel??? I hope its more of big things to come, like a jullius peppers, but I guess its better than cutting him in camp.. Who knows..
 
Trade Vrabel if we havent deal Cassel before is just stupid .

Salary dump mode .
 
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Wright is a UFA. Peppers is too light to play DE in the 3-4.
Wright can still be signed. And then there's the draft. I'm sure they'll work out their contingencies before dealing or cutting Jarvis.
 
I'm shocked and a little upset!!

I get back from work, hoping for a trade, but not with Mike involved!!!!

Thanks Vrabel for some gooood times :):)
 
You guys think you're upset? How do you think Tony Gonzales feels?
 
Trade Vrabel if we havent deal Cassel before is just stupid .

Salary dump mode .

Yes.

Perhaps you are smarter than BB and the Pats braintrust. What on earth does trading Vrabel have to do with eventually shipping Cassel out?
 
Wow, was shocked hearing this today.

Thanks for the memories Vrabel!
 
I am dying to know what picks we got! :eek:
 
Why do i have this AWFUL feeling in my gut that we're NOT going to be happy with what we receive in return. I want to believe something great is going to happen, but i just don't feel it.
 
here is curran's take

Quiet On The Pats-KC Front; Could Mean Cassel's Involved - NBC Sports Blogs


It smells like there might be a lot more to the Mike Vrabel to the Chiefs deal than simply a benign "undisclosed" draft pick.

New England is locked up tight as a drum this afternoon. There is no conversation going out which is a sure harbinger that there are bigger dominoes wobbling.

My speculation? Since Vrabel is only in KC and his acquisition hasn't been officially declared, he is merely a sidebar in the deal. The holdup - and silence - is being caused by something else that's taking place and my guess is that the something else is negotiations between Matt Cassel's agent David Dunn and the Chiefs GM Scott Pioli.

Cassel, of course, is the franchised Patriots quarterback who's due to make $14.6 million this year if he stays with the Patriots. If New England deals Cassel, he comes off their books, clearing cap space.

And that has me thinking the undisclosed pick is the third overall pick in this draft.

So it may well be Cassel and Vrabel to the Chiefs for the third overall pick and - likely - another later round pick. The financial end of this is what makes it a solid deal for the Pats. Between Cassel and Vrabel, there's almost $20 million in cap space getting cleared. Vrabel would have been a free agent after this year so the Pats are going to get something for him they wouldn't have otherwise.

Wouldn't the Pats want to avoid the third overall pick and the money outlay for an unproven player that comes with it? Not necessarily. They will still win financially in 2009 even adding the third overall pick because of the money they clear with Vrabel and Cassel leaving. And they'll have a good player from that spot going forward (presumably).

So who replaces Vrabel? Hmmmm. The Patriots liked Jonathan Vilma coming out of Miami. He's on the market. And so is Ray Lewis. Would they be fits at outside linebacker where Vrabel played predominantly? It will be interesting to see. And to see if this goes down as I'm suspecting.
 
Wow. I'm in complete shock. Either we're closer to signing Peppers than any of us thought or BB must have a TON of confidence in Crable.
 
Who's going to be our stealth goal line TE now?
 
He's already wrong about Vilma, since Vilma have re upped with the saints.
 
He's already wrong about Vilma, since Vilma have re upped with the saints.


Yeah I was completely perplexed by that.. the need is obvious for an outside rusher..
 
Curran could be right about the fact that there is no word because Matt is working out a deal...

But I wonder, if that is true, what is the follow-up ??? To use the 3rd to replace Vrabel (hoping Curry is there) or to get a FA ? I really can't think they are going to weaken an already suspect LB corp by moving Vrabel with no other move in mind. Sure, we'Re not talking about 2003 Vrabel, but still - I have to think they value him over TBC or Woods !
 
Curran could be right about the fact that there is no word because Matt is working out a deal...

But I wonder, if that is true, what is the follow-up ??? To use the 3rd to replace Vrabel (hoping Curry is there) or to get a FA ? I really can't think they are going to weaken an already suspect LB corp by moving Vrabel with no other move in mind. Sure, we'Re not talking about 2003 Vrabel, but still - I have to think they value him over TBC or Woods !

Or we take that pick and flip it for Peppers.. hmmmm or we hold on to that trade our 23# for Peppers..
 
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