Happy New Year Roger Goodell

[groundgame]

Played a significant role in sending the 11-5 Patriots home without a playoff berth. On the most important 2008 regular season week, he chose, alleging TV ratings for the 1pm & 4pm non-prime time slots, as the reason to only have the Jets sit back and wait for the outcome of the Ravens and Patriots 1 pm games. Only after heavy pressure did Goodell back-off and allow the Ravens to go into the 4pm spot also. That was hardly an issue for the Ravens, up against the mail-it-in Jags. I am convinced the Jets would have defeated the Dolphins if New England loses. Thanks again Roger.

 

[Clonamery]

Played a significant role in sending the 11-5 Patriots home without a playoff berth. On the most important 2008 regular season week, he chose, alleging TV ratings for the 1pm & 4pm non-prime time slots, as the reason to only have the Jets sit back and wait for the outcome of the Ravens and Patriots 1 pm games. Only after heavy pressure did Goodell back-off and allow the Ravens to go into the 4pm spot also. That was hardly an issue for the Ravens, up against the mail-it-in Jags. I am convinced the Jets would have defeated the Dolphins if New England loses. Thanks again Roger.

It's always about the $$. Yes, it sux but get over it.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

We'll never know for certain I guess. To me it looked like the Jets were trying in that 2nd half and the scheduling didn't play a role, they did after all take the lead at one point. I remember Kerry Rhodes making a 3rd down stop and showed emotion, I know at least he was giving it his all. We will never know though, what if instead of just seeing the Ravens up 24-7 at halftime, if they would have also seen the Patriots up by just a FG in conditions that took away the major strength of our team. So yes the absolute fairest thing in the name of competition would have been to have all 3 games at 4, but the maximizing of ratings took precedence and that is pretty unfortunate.

 

[sieglo]

It's always about the $$. Yes, it sux but get over it.

As I posted on another thread, this actually isn't the issue here.

Sure, the NFL may have made more money last Sunday by scheduling Jets/Phins and Ravens/Jags at 4:00. But what that doesn't take into account is that now, the Pats are out of the playoffs. And the Pats in the playoffs makes more money for the NFL than the Dolphins in the playoffs.

Sorry, it just does.

So yes, Goodell made the decision in order to screw the Pats.

 

[JaxPats]

It's always about the $$. Yes, it sux but get over it.

Yep. It is all about the money. But where is the best product? I hope Ol' Roger gets a case of uncontrolable dysentary for the whole year along with a severe end case erectile dysfunction with no cure.

 

[Patriot_in_NY]

Naw, some of the Jets were trying very hard. Look at Farvaque, he was working real hard at cementing his all-time INT leader stats. It's not easy getting those numbers, afterall, most CB's and Safety's can't really catch all that well. You have to have just the right "touch" on the ball to ensure they can handle it.

 

[Clonamery]

As I posted on another thread, this actually isn't the issue here.

Sure, the NFL may have made more money last Sunday by scheduling Jets/Phins and Ravens/Jags at 4:00. But what that doesn't take into account is that now, the Pats are out of the playoffs. And the Pats in the playoffs makes more money for the NFL than the Dolphins in the playoffs.

Sorry, it just does.

So yes, Goodell made the decision in order to screw the Pats.

Sorry, you're as short-sighted as Roger Goodell. Short-term the big $$ was to put the Jets-Dolphins on at 4pm whether the Jets won or not and NEP was eliminated or not. Yeah, the NEP attracts a LARGE audience but who says Goodell has shown any ability to think that far ahead.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

As I posted on another thread, this actually isn't the issue here.

Sure, the NFL may have made more money last Sunday by scheduling Jets/Phins and Ravens/Jags at 4:00. But what that doesn't take into account is that now, the Pats are out of the playoffs. And the Pats in the playoffs makes more money for the NFL than the Dolphins in the playoffs.

Sorry, it just does.

So yes, Goodell made the decision in order to screw the Pats.

Well the NFL is going to feel the effects of the Pats not being in the playoffs. Like I said in another thread, you have to go back to the late 90s to find a well played Super Bowl not involving the Pats. And when was the last time there ever an AFC championship like Pats @ Indy in '06, when was there a 2nd round game like the tuck game? I wouldn't be suprised if the ratings suffer big.

 

[DarrylS]

Played a significant role in sending the 11-5 Patriots home without a playoff berth. On the most important 2008 regular season week, he chose, alleging TV ratings for the 1pm & 4pm non-prime time slots, as the reason to only have the Jets sit back and wait for the outcome of the Ravens and Patriots 1 pm games. Only after heavy pressure did Goodell back-off and allow the Ravens to go into the 4pm spot also. That was hardly an issue for the Ravens, up against the mail-it-in Jags. I am convinced the Jets would have defeated the Dolphins if New England loses. Thanks again Roger.

Did Goodell drop the pass to Gaffney in the Indy game?? The Pats got into this position because of a few mistakes, nothing can change that..

 

[RayClay]

Games are scheduled because of ratings. Don't be sore losers. You sound like Jets fans.

 

[upstater1]

Did Goodell drop the pass to Gaffney in the Indy game?? The Pats got into this position because of a few mistakes, nothing can change that..

This kind of thinking I don't understand. If the Patriots had gone 12-4, a couple of more IFs would have us missing the playoffs at 12-4 as well. For example, if Walt Coleman doesn't overturn the ruling on the field in the Steelers-Ravens game, or if Miami doesn't allow a Matt Schaub scramble with 3 seconds left, then the Patriots miss the playoffs with a 12-4 record even with a win over the Jets.

Yes, we could be 12-4 and out of the playoffs right now. I'm just wondering if that would have changed some people's thinking about the system we use.

The same logic applies at 10-6. 11 is just an arbitrary number in the discussion. The point is, the NFL did not maximize its competitive integrity by having 3 games at the same time.

If it had, the Jets would have gone into the second half knowing the Patriots were up only 3-0 on the Bills.

 

[upstater1]

Games are scheduled because of ratings. Don't be sore losers. You sound like Jets fans.

I have to say, I really don't care that they do it for money or ratings. I'm a fan first. I watch for the competition. The NFL lectured us about the competition for a year when it comes to stealing defensive signals from tapes, or when it comes to messing with the injury report. If the NFL is so concerned about the game's competitive integrity when it comes to stealing signals and injuries, then I don't want to hear from them when they move games and fail to maximize competitive integrity. It should go both ways. They shouldn't be hypocrites about it.

 

[upstater1]

One more thing. Damien Woody was quoted as saying that all the Jets saw the scoreboard at Giants Stadium when it read Jaguars 7 and Jets 3. Woody said that they never showed the scor again, and the Jets knew in the first half that this meant the Ravens had the game well in hand.

These are Woody's words.

To be fair, I do think the Jets offense played hard, but the defense allowed Miami to run through them like swiss cheese. The defenders deflated, they were disappointed. I think this is natural when you realize your playoff hopes are done.

 

[denverpatsfan]

I disagree. Jets were on a losing streak and Farve was cooked. Miami was playing very well the last 2-months of the season.

If you want to blame anybody, blame Mangini for playing an injured Farve rather than a healthy Clemens.

And he DID get fired for that decision.

 

[Deus Irae]

It's always about the $$. Yes, it sux but get over it.

The league could very easily have done the correct thing, which would have been to play the Dolphins-Jets game at 1 pm and move the Patriots and Ravens games, along with the Giants game, to 4 pm. That would still have split the playoff determining games, would still have had a New York team on at both 1 pm and 4 pm, and would have avoided the letdown syndrome.

Saying that it's all about the money is a copout.

 

[pats1]

Played a significant role in sending the 11-5 Patriots home without a playoff berth. On the most important 2008 regular season week, he chose, alleging TV ratings for the 1pm & 4pm non-prime time slots, as the reason to only have the Jets sit back and wait for the outcome of the Ravens and Patriots 1 pm games. Only after heavy pressure did Goodell back-off and allow the Ravens to go into the 4pm spot also. That was hardly an issue for the Ravens, up against the mail-it-in Jags. I am convinced the Jets would have defeated the Dolphins if New England loses. Thanks again Roger.

So we're just inventing stories now? Give me a break.

 

[RayClay]

I have to say, I really don't care that they do it for money or ratings. I'm a fan first. I watch for the competition. The NFL lectured us about the competition for a year when it comes to stealing defensive signals from tapes, or when it comes to messing with the injury report. If the NFL is so concerned about the game's competitive integrity when it comes to stealing signals and injuries, then I don't want to hear from them when they move games and fail to maximize competitive integrity. It should go both ways. They shouldn't be hypocrites about it.

Maybe they'll schedule all the games at one o'clock next year so there's no question.

 

[Pujo]

Games are scheduled because of ratings. Don't be sore losers. You sound like Jets fans.

Damn right, people should be ashamed of all of their whining. If you want to whine, put on a dress and go become a Jets fan. Some people always look for someone else to blame, they're the losers in life. The Pats did control their own destiny, until they lost 5 games. That's how it goes sometimes.

 

[PittPatriot]

Yep. It is all about the money. But where is the best product? I hope Ol' Roger gets a case of uncontrolable dysentary for the whole year along with a severe end case erectile dysfunction with no cure.

priapism can be far more debilitating.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

The JEST didn't lose the game to screw the Patriots. They lost the game because for the last five or six years, Lord Favre is teh suck under pressure late in the season.

Looking at the season as a whole, Lord Favre wasn't even the second best QB in the division. The only shame is that the JEST only have to cough up a third for him.