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  1. RhodyPatriot

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    I've never understood why the NFL goes with this ridiculously unfair bye system. It's an absolute joke and has been since its' inception. Why can't they figure out a way to have half the AFC and NFC take week 8 off and the remaining half of the AFC and NFC take week 9 off???
    There are 4 divisions in each conference.
    Have the AFC East - NFC South - AFC North - NFC West take week 8 off
    Have the NFC East - AFC South - NFC North - AFC West take week 9 off

    Each season they can flip it so last year those who had week 8 now have week 9 and and so on.
    This is a fair system for every team and it provides regional games for every TV market in the country during the 2 bye weeks. I simply don't understsnd why they can't figure this out. Don't tell me it's a sceduling thing because I don't buy that at all.
    I don't get it!! Can someone explain to me why the NFL can't streamline the bye weeks and make them middle of the season for every team??
    Anyone????
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    I said in another thread that they should just give one whole division a week off and rotate them every year, weeks 4 thru 11.

    There's no way they would give half the league off in the same week. First of all DirectTV wouldn't like that at all. Because with only 8 games, two in primetime, that leaves 6 for Sunday afternoon. I'm sure there are other reasons.

    Also, are you complaining about this because the Pats have a week 4 bye week this year? That's bad, but we had a great bye week last year.
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    This is the better idea.
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    They tweaked it a year or two ago, shortening the bye window by a week on each end, IIRC.

    Remember the Pats had a Week 3 bye in 2004. The earliest bye is now Week 4.

    Also remember they originally had a Week 17 bye in 2001, which turned into Week 16 after 9/11. The latest bye is now Week 10.
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    Still hate the bye, would rather it after 8 weeks, after 3 weeks is way too soon..
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    You could still go half way between the two proposals suggested and end up with: bye weeks from weeks 7-10.

    2 divisions off per week for 4 weeks instead of either
    4 divisions off per week for 2 weeks or
    1 division off per week for 8 weeks

    in a normal week (non-bye) you have 16 games with 1 Thur/Mon, 1 Sun nt, and 14 Sunday. (7 1pm start / 7 4pm start)

    If you take 8 teams out of mix that means 12 games and still 10 on Sunday (5 at 1pm / 5 at 4pm). That is still reasonable.

    Granted the previous changes improved the completely absurd week 17 or week 1 bye situations. But that doesn't mean just because the current situation is better than plain stupid that we have to live with it forever.
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    That was ridiculous. But that was before the Texans, so there were an odd number of teams. Someone must have had a week 1 bye then no?

    Edit: Arizona had a week 1 bye that year. Now that's worth complaining about. That's why you need an even number of teams.
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    I've heard numerous players and coaches say they prefer a bye around week 5 because at that point they have been practicing for 12 weeks and playing games for 9 weeks (preseason included) without a break.
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    I guess but we did pretty well at the half way point last yr.
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    It's no big deal. Are you claiming that it was better than when there was no bye week???

    The scheduling of the bye is such a minor issue. Does it even make a 1 point difference in the spread? I don't think so. That indicates how insignificant it is.
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    I actually talked about this in this thread back in February.

    There's no fundamental reason they can't schedule the bye over just three weeks. Or, perhaps, why not give every team a week off, and have two eight-week half-seasons in which every team plays every week?
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    week 4 is early, but last year it was about perfect, right after the indy game week 10. it cant be great every year, some years this will happen. in 2004 they had week 3 off, this is at least better than that
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    Quit cher *****in and stop whining!!!!!


    It was O.K. when NE had the perfect bye week last year but as soon as we have a lousy week 4 bye like this year goofballs are whining like a baby and want changes all of a sudden.

    Just Quit the sh!t already - please

    If you don't like the bye week system then watch another sport - the NFL bye week system is fine the way it is and is not likely to change any time soon - get over it
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    Wow! Tempers are running high.

    Aside from your anger, I actually agree with you.
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    Sorry for sounding MAD :mad: Patjew but I am because I get sick and tired of jerks who want the NFL to change things totally around just because its for the benefit of the Patriots and if it were the other teams getting the bye in week 4 and the Patriots getting week 10 again then you would hear "f-the other teams with a lousy bye we have a perfect bye" - I think that stinks but of course there is nothing I or anyone can do except wish they would come to grip with reality and respect what the NFL has per its schedule or like I said find another sport to watch.
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    I hear you. Just don't give yourself a heart attack.
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    Relax Tinkerbell! Your satin panties are getting all bunched up. Funny but I don't recall ever stating that I thought last years late bye week was fair to the Patriots. Certainly was a hell of a lot closer to the midway point of the season than a week 4 bye though still too late IMO.
    No reason why the NFL can't make the bye system equitable for all teams. ALL teams!! The system they have in place now is a joke and has been for years. But as some of you accurately point out it's all about the $$$$$$$.
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    yes...but that was a year that had 31 teams..with an odd number ONE team every week had to have a bye..
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    What the eff is your problem? Do you always insult people with whom you disagree, or do you just not like independent thought in general? If it were up to people like you, the queen of England would still have her face on our money.

    The fact is, the bye system is flawed and needs to be fixed. There is no way - no way - that a team should have a bye earlier than after its 4th game.

    I like Gumby's plan the best: 2 divisions off, one from each conference, for 4 weeks, beginning Week 7. The divisions can then rotate bye schedules over 4 years, similar to how a division from one conference plays a different division from the other conference every year for 4 years.

    Also, with bye weeks being determined by division, the unfairness of scheduling one team, coming off a bye, against another team, not coming off a bye, is eliminated.

    This plan is simple, easy and fair...and unlikely to be passed any time soon. Remember, this is the same league that for years had St.Louis/Arizona and Dallas in the NFC East, and Atlanta in the NFC West.
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    I don't see how that can possibly be guaranteed unless all 32 teams have a bye the same week.
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    You could give each division the same bye week, and rotate it every year, from 4 thru 11. Then play a division game after the bye week.
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    OK, that might work, although I definitely don't like the idea of having eight weeks of byes. I'm also not 100% sure it works mathematically without producing some clunky scheduling results.
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    GET RID OF THE BYE WEEK ALTOGETHER.

    Get rid of the 4th preseason game which is worthless anyway. I can't imagine any network or stadium really makes money for the game. (Except Krafty and his 169 tickets.) Anyway now you have one less week in the preseason and one less game in the regular season. Thats fine with me. All that matter is that they still play 16 games that actually count.


    If the NFL really gets heartburn over this proposal, they can increase the schedule to 18 games equalled out by no bye week and no 4th preseason game. Then the overall calender remains constant and the money flows for the fat cats.
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    Sure. Its called TV contractual obligations. They are obligated to have a certain number of games each week during the regular season.

    Also, it IS a scheduling thing. You don't seem to understand that the current match-ups were set years in advance for all except 2 games, right?
    One other thing to remember is that the more limiting parameters you set in the schedule, the harder it is to create one.
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    The league currently has 7 bye weeks. And I believe that is what they had PRIOR to Houston being added.

    Its clunky now because you have 2 weeks where 6 teams have byes and 5 weeks where only 4 teams have byes.

    Personally, I'd have no problem with them going to 4 weeks of byes with 8 teams resting. And you can start it at week 6 and run through week 9 or week 7 and run through week 10.

    That IS much fairer than the current system and only reduces the schedule to 12 games instead of 8 like someone else mentioned.
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    How about this...Week 9 EVERYONE has off. Schedule a couple of big college games on that Sunday.

    I know it sucks, but bye weeks are part of the game.
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    I don't see what the match-ups being set years in advance have to do with assigning the byes. If you look at this thread, you'll see that, theoretically, the schedule could be made extremely uniform if everyone agreed to do so. [In a manner of speaking, you start off with 256 games filling 16 weeks of a 17-week grid in the manner I explained there. You can then move games around as much as you want, so long as no team plays twice in the same week.]
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    I half agree with you. Its not a bad idea to get rid of the 4th preseason game. But in addition to that, the NFL should provide all teams with 2 bye weeks. That way the season extends over 18 weeks - which I am sure would be good for business / tv.

    More importantly, if a team has an early bye week, they are also guaranteed a later one, so that there is less concern over where the bye falls. Also, it could be used to decrease the number of short weeks a team has, by giving it to teams after a monday night road game or before a thursday game.
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    Didn't the league have a 2 bye week system a long time ago?
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