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  1. PATSNUTme

    PATSNUTme Paranoid Homer Moderator Staff Member PatsFans.com Supporter

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    With all of his fumbles lately there are many on this board very unhappy with him.

    What should be done with him?

    EDIT: Had a poll but the system wouldn't let me post it because I must have taken 5 mins and 1 sec to set it up.
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    Stick with him, we have no choice. I feel the same about Gabriel too.
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    Coat his uniform with Crazy Glue? Is that legal?
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    He should be cut, should have been last week.

    And Brady should be cut too, to show each and every player that nobody is above good ball security. Think about it, if Brady gets the axe everyone else will be too scared to fumble.
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    heh, like we can exert any influence on good 'ol BB :) I'm sure he just loves to pick his team based on fan sentiment....
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    Maybe borrow some of the gunk that Lester Hayes and Belitnikoff used to use in Oakland ;)
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    I co-sign the above, with the addendum that every football that is fumbled should be drawn, quartered, and set on a pike, as a lesson to the others.
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    They should keep throwing the ball to him.

    A lot.

    Because he's one of the few Pats receivers who can consistently get open for more than a 4 yard reception.

    3 fumbles in 3 games, coming after 1 fumble in 26 games, is not proof of a fumbling problem in the slightest. It could simply be random grouping. Sure, it is a potentially worrisome situation, and something to monitor over the next few games, but that's it.

    Furthermore, he's a young player. He's shown great work ethic and coachability so far, and has really improved his hands this year. If he is developing a fumbling problem, there's no reason to think it can't be coached.
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    Coaching should help him adhust where he holds the ball and he should start protecting the ball with two hands.
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    YEsterday's fumble was unlucky. From what I saw he did everything right, had two hands on the ball but was taken down in a difficult position and had the ball knocked away by a helmet. The early fumble against the Bears was the result of a very good defensive hit, and he didn't seem to do a lot wrong there.

    In spite of the massive all round improvement in Reche Caldwell's game, Benjamin Watson remains our biggest receiving threat, and I'm looking forward to him having a massive game against Miami next week.
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    The commentators yesterday mentioned that he has a sore arm, which could have something to do with his recent fumbles.
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    Seems to me that pass catching TEs that are on teams with established #1 and #2 WRs benefit from having the defense key on other threats-

    take a team like Dallas for example - where even with Drew Bledsoe taking the snaps for the majority of the season you've got TO and Glenn hauling in 70 and 50 passes thus far.

    That keeps a lot of defensive pressure off of Witten.

    In New England's passing game, who is keeping the pressure off of Watson?

    Caldwell. Who else? Faulk's caught a lot of passes but that's for short yardage.

    If I'm a DC I'm going to have a few guys keying on Watson at all times. I know the vast majority of the mid to deep balls are going to him and Caldwell.

    In the best case scenario Watson's prevented from adding a lot of yards after the carry - in the worst case scenario Watson's got a few guys keying on him to make a bone rattling hit as soon as the ball touches his hands.

    I give Watson a lot of credit for carrying so much of this offense this year. He's exceeding most everyone's predictions from the pre-season around here.

    Picking up another legitimate WR in the offseason, or having Gabriel or Jackson come around would make a big difference in how DC's approach a game against the Patriots.
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    Yeah, and we know that BB is an idiot who's easily impressed, so it's obvious how he got the job.
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    a lesson to other footballs?
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    All of the above.

    Make him hit the jugs machine.
    Make him put stickum on his gloves.
    Make him do ball security drills.
    Try to coach more awareness into him.
    Whatever it takes just keep him involved with the offense.
    Because the Pats need him.

    Other than that I'm not sure what more you can do but if you have an idea feel free to add on to the list.
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    let Maroney teach him how to hold the ball..like he thought Faulk!
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    Jeez, man, read . . . slowly . . . and understand :

    I said STICK WITH HIM. And that I FEEL THE SAME ABOUT GABRIEL.

    :mad:
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    Precisely. Our footballs lack loyalty. Their fumbling problems should not be tolerated. That is what we must do.
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    I guess his only qualification was impressing a future NFL Hall of Fame Head Coach. Probably in meetings, and out of them, they talked about offensive football, ideas, what they like and don't like, and Belichick liked what he heard.

    How have your conversations with McDaniels and Belichick gone, NEM ?
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    I think Ken Walter should rub the balls before Brady uses them.:)
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    Congrats -- you nailed it.
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    I don't understand why critizing Watson for fumbles and droped passes makes anyone think it means BB should cut him. There's nothing to get defensive about. The coaches need to stay on the kid about ball security and he needs to do whatever it takes to get better at it. Wasn't KiKi Barber a fumbler in his early years? There's been others too. But too many of his drops and fumbles have been drive killers and messed up scoring chances. You can't ignore that like it doesn't happen. Although K Faulk doesn't have a large number of fumbles over the years, many have not just been drive killers but in some instances game killers. Has that not happened either?
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    Absolutely. My thoughts exactly! Teach these unloyal, slippery, over-inflated pig bladders a lesson they will never forget!
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    It's probably nothing, but Watson appears to have switched the type of glove he wears. Here he is from Minnesota:

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    Here he is from Chicago:

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    Here he is from Detroit:

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    His two biggest ball security games have been the last two, and he appears to wearing the same glove in those two (albeit in different colors). Perhaps the glove from the Minnesota game has a tackier palm?
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    Yeah, I caught that one, too. A rookie is teaching a 5 year vet how to hold onto the ball???

    DUHHHH....maybe he should listen to his coaches...
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    I work for the NFL part-time, and one of my duties when I do work the games is to catch punts and passes from the players pre-game. Therefore, I get pretty much every glove the NFL puts out. There really isn't a difference in the amount of tack (or stick) on each glove that receivers wear. The only difference is between the line gloves and the receiving gloves. Obviously, linemen don't have that tack, it's replaced with extra padding. Where there may be a difference is in the snugness of the glove. If you notice the first glove, it has a traditional velcro strapping. Some players in the past would leave them unfastened, and roll the top over. The last 2 photos are of the newer gloves which are shorter, and have a thin "V" fastener. This doesn't allow for the glove to be tight, or to fold over. There is also a third glove made that doesn't have a velcro adjustment at all. One thing I noticed when using the different gloves is that I definitely preferred the old style. The newer gloves seemed almost like a flex-fit to me, and I wasn't as comfortable with the football. Now, the difference between my catching uncovered punts in pregame and Ben Watson being jacked after catching a pass by Chicago defenders is immense, and this is really not a valid excuse. But, it's interesting you noticed the difference, since I had that similar experience.

    As for Watson, what to do? Well, keep throwing him the ball. You have to trust your best players. I think his fumbles are an anomaly and he'll work on ball security. I'm sure they can find something on film that can be corrected.
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    If you want to take stats into account Watson's not the worst fumbler on the team. For 2005 and 2006 combined Watson's got 5 fumbles so far. Brady has 15. So whatever you want to do to Ben for his problem should be tripled for Brady? Maybe we should really be talking about Brady's problem and what to do with him because it's a much more worrisome situation from a guy who handles the ball a lot being so careless. :rolleyes:
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    Perhaps the new field should be taken into consideration. During the Bears game it was mentioned that the Silicones or what ever that is used in the manufacturing has not worn off yet and the amounts of fumbles and bad pass might be caused by that.

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