rookBoston
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I'm feeling real good about Moroney and Jackson, but I still have this huge, lasting regret that we dont have Bobby Carpenter on the roster. I watched Carpenter for most of the last college season, and I felt that he was arguably a better all around player than AJ Hawk.
There are reports that the Pats tried to trade up to #17, ahead of Dallas, but we're able to close the deal with the Vikes, who really wanted Greenway.
Now, Miami drafted Jason Allen at #16, and you have to think that they would have been willing to trade back to #21 and still have a decent expectation that Allen would still be on the board for them.
Supposing that Pioli had been able to make that trade with Miami, to move up to #16 to steal Carpenter. It may have cost the 3rd rounder, plus a Day Two pick. But it would have made Chad Jackson an impossibility for us. What would that draft class have looked like?
#16 - OLB Bobby Carpenter
#52 - WR Greg Jennings
#86 - TE Dave Thomas
as opposed to
#21 - RB Lawrence Moroney
#36 - WR Chad Jackson
#86 - TE Dave Thomas
I think Moroney is going to be great, gives us a future at RB, and Jackson has the makings of a pro-bowl calibre talent. With them in place, we've got a stunningly talented and deep, score-at-will type of offense.
But I sure would feel better about the team with Carpenter and Colvin, Vrabel and Bruschi anchoring the LB unit. If we'd traded up for Carpenter, we would have had tougher questions to answer at WR, but we would have more than enough talent at TE to compensate.
As things stand, either our outside pass rush or our run-stopping D is going to need a youngster step up and fill the void. No wonder Belichick was working with Mincey and Woods during rookie camp-- that seems to be, clearly, the weak link on the roster right now. Plus, we're as thin as an egg shell in terms of depth at LB.
I'm not predicting doom: things can change quickly, and there is some good reason to hope for Beisel or Claridge to step up. But still, in terms of long term solutions, my lasting hope for the Pats is starting to take the form of Georgia DE Quentin Moses and Penn State LB Paul Posluzny... I'll be watching the college game real close for other (more achievable) nominees.
Question: With what you know now, would you rather have Carpenter and Jennings or Moroney and Jackson?
There are reports that the Pats tried to trade up to #17, ahead of Dallas, but we're able to close the deal with the Vikes, who really wanted Greenway.
Now, Miami drafted Jason Allen at #16, and you have to think that they would have been willing to trade back to #21 and still have a decent expectation that Allen would still be on the board for them.
Supposing that Pioli had been able to make that trade with Miami, to move up to #16 to steal Carpenter. It may have cost the 3rd rounder, plus a Day Two pick. But it would have made Chad Jackson an impossibility for us. What would that draft class have looked like?
#16 - OLB Bobby Carpenter
#52 - WR Greg Jennings
#86 - TE Dave Thomas
as opposed to
#21 - RB Lawrence Moroney
#36 - WR Chad Jackson
#86 - TE Dave Thomas
I think Moroney is going to be great, gives us a future at RB, and Jackson has the makings of a pro-bowl calibre talent. With them in place, we've got a stunningly talented and deep, score-at-will type of offense.
But I sure would feel better about the team with Carpenter and Colvin, Vrabel and Bruschi anchoring the LB unit. If we'd traded up for Carpenter, we would have had tougher questions to answer at WR, but we would have more than enough talent at TE to compensate.
As things stand, either our outside pass rush or our run-stopping D is going to need a youngster step up and fill the void. No wonder Belichick was working with Mincey and Woods during rookie camp-- that seems to be, clearly, the weak link on the roster right now. Plus, we're as thin as an egg shell in terms of depth at LB.
I'm not predicting doom: things can change quickly, and there is some good reason to hope for Beisel or Claridge to step up. But still, in terms of long term solutions, my lasting hope for the Pats is starting to take the form of Georgia DE Quentin Moses and Penn State LB Paul Posluzny... I'll be watching the college game real close for other (more achievable) nominees.
Question: With what you know now, would you rather have Carpenter and Jennings or Moroney and Jackson?