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Ugh, Felger keeps trolling on about Ocho making 6 mil "guaranteed" this year...

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  1. Shockt327

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    ...and it's so annoying. Because isn't it untrue?

    Ok, so I was under the impression the 6 million dollar base was from Cincy. I could have sworn that I read about how the Pats made him restructure; thus making it way, way lower. In my head, I remembered it as being, like, two-million and change against the cap....

    I just Google'd it. I believe my memory served me well. Across the board it seems like all the articles point to Ocho having a 1 million dollar base; that was set to increase in '12 and '13. Now it gets a little different.... Some point to a 4.5 mil signing bonus being upfront, thus being 5.5 total for this year. Other articles claim the bonus is only 1.5 a year over the 3 years - thus 2.5 mil for '11. So am I misunderstanding? Or is it simply a situation where the signing bonus money itself is indeed upfront (and now in Ocho's pocket); but it only counts against the cap at 1.5 mil per year?
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    It makes no difference because, by all accounts, he tried his best it just didn't work out. If he had dogged it that would be different. It appears to have been a good faith effort by both sides with an unfortunate outcome.
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    Mazz is so annoying.
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    Yeah. If they thought Ocho wasn't trying they would have bought him a seat next to Haynesworth on the bus out of town.
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    He's been paid $5.75MM this year.
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    What ever he made over a practice squad player was too much.
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    I was under the impression he was away, and it hadn't been updated in some time.
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    AFAIC, it was a bad decision, but that's water under the bridge. With 20/20 hindsight, we can see there's no use crying over spilled milk. It was what it is. Time to let it go and let it be.

    So did I use enough cliches to describe how I feel. :D
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    Felger & Mazz are right on this one. What a waste. **** man, I'll show up and "try my best" for half of that Bill!!! Call me up bro!
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    The Patriots are going to the Super Bowl. At this point in time, why should anyone give a damn how much Johnson makes?
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    Well, it's more about Felger's annoying behavior than anything....
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    Couldnt agree more, he really brings that show down a notch, Felger is at least entertaining although annoying at times, Mazz is just annoying.
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    That was not the main theme of the bashing. It came up after they read a quote by him that said this season (among other things) wasn't about the money. Their point was that he already got paid, so of course it wasnt.
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    I thought ocho played well when he was on the field, Great blocking, great team player...I bet he is back next year if branch is gone.
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    Four more.
    That is, I click off that station by Mazz's fourth word.
    if I am slow.
    Guy offers nothing.
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    OMG! How true is that statement! Mazz makes Felger look like a homer.
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    $6M counting his $250K workout bonus. All players were entitled to them in full once the lockout ended. So Chad did indeed make $6M guaranteed this season.

    To put a positive Chad like spin on it though, the good news is there is no additional guaranteed money in his 3 year $12M (plus $5m in apparently unreachable incentives like pro bowl) extension so they will gain $1.5M in cap space when they release him. The bad news is his 2012 dead cap hit of $3.16M will exceed his 2011 cap hit of $2.75M...for even less production. But it remains preferable to a cap hit of $4.5M if he remains here in 2012. They could decide to postpone his departure until June and spread the dead cap into 2012 & 2013 at $1.53M per year...

    And some of you people quibble about extending Branch who made $2.2M this season...LOL
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    This exactly!

    Obviously 85 is paid well over his production. This means the signing was a mistake (unless by some miracle he is a stellar producer the next couple of years). However, the Patriots are in the SB. Who they signed, what they paid them, how many mistakes they made are moot points. They will become hot issues a couple of months from now though.

    Besides, don't you know? 85 is about to earn every penny by way of a performance unparalleled in the history of the SB :D
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    As far as I'm concerned, this whole ordeal breaks down as follows:

    The Pats made 2 big offseason additions in Haynseworth and Ocho....

    Neither worked out.....

    The Patriots still made it to the Superbowl......

    End.....of.....story.
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    Oh and why is anyone here listening to Felger? He's had an agenda for years. Remember when Peyton Manning was going to be signed before Brady? Remember how Tom Brady had to get on his knees and beg for a new contract?

    Yeah, he's been anti-Pats since BB called him out during a presser. Felger said something like "Can I ask a stupid question?" and BB said something to the effect of "Hasn't stopped you in the past". Plus, he's a cheeze-head from bleeding WS. Only listen to him to make fun of him and his lap dog.
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    Yup.

    It happens. And sometimes the player in question not only doesn't contribute, he becomes a problem in the lockerroom.

    I'll not give Johnson too much credit for taking it like a man - but I think, if I had to choose between having him or Santonio Holmes, I'll take Chad every time.
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    What? A Feger thread and I am not involved?

    I love it how the radio douches (D & C in particular) cannot enjoy this great season but have to dwell on the few negatives such as Ocho. Personally I like Ocho.

    BTW 6 million is chump change compared to baseball players...football players are grossly underpaid considering the violence and short careers in this sport
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