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The QB class doesn't look too hot this year maybe Mallet gets flipped and we sign Cassel back on the cheap.

The class isn't great at the top, but is very good at the second level.
 
The QB class doesn't look too hot this year maybe Mallet gets flipped and we sign Cassel back on the cheap.

I can see it now:

Ringgg! Ringgg!

SP: This is Scott. Is that really you, Bill?

BB: Yup. Winning the SB last week made me think of the "Glory Years" we had together, and I just wanted to share a little of it with you.

SP: Great to hear from you, Bill. That's awfully generous. And congratulations on finally winning another Super Bowl. About time. I thought you would pull it off last year, but at least this year you closed the deal. (Gets teary eyed). I sure do miss all those Super Bowls.

BB: Well, it's amazing what you can do with a guy like Tom Brady at QB. Imagine, half the teams in the NFL don't even have a decent starting QB ... Oh, I'm sorry, that was insensitive of me.

SP: Well Bill, I guess you have the right to gloat. I mean, I thought Matt Cassel was going to be special at one point, but he just couldn't get over the hump. But hey, I've got the #1 draft pick, and even Brady can't go on forever.

BB: Yeah, imagine that, the #1 draft pick in a draft without a #1 QB. That really sucks. If it had been last year you could have had Andrew Luck. Think I wouldn't rather see the kid go to you than to those b*st*rds in Indy? As for Brady, he's still going strong. And this kid Mallett is going to be something special, so I'm really not worried about when Brady decides to hang up his cleats.

SP: Something special?

BB: Oh yeah. He always had the arm. He's a really film junkie, and he's been using Brady to learn the finer points of the game. Like I said, I'm just not worried.

SP: How do you think he compares to this year's prospects?

BB: This year? There's nothing coming out. Nothing. Matt Barkley is short and overrated. Geno Smith is a scrambler and overrated. Neither is top 10 material. Mike Glennon? Flavor of the day. Hell, if you took every QB in this draft and packaged them together I wouldn't trade the bunch for Mallett.

SP: You don't say.

BB: You do say. Hey, if I had the #1 pick I'd rather try and trade for a kid like Mallett - not that we'd trade him, mind you - and use the #1 pick on a guy like Jarvis Jones, or a stud LT like Luke Joeckel. Or better yet, trade down and get back what you traded for a real QB, and pick up a couple of solid players. Your defense isn't half bad, and you've got a running game. It's all about putting points on the board - hey, did you like how we shattered the 2007 record, by the way?

SP: Yeah, that was great. You said you wouldn't consider trading the kid.

BB: Not a chance. Not for at least a 1st round pick, and with #1 in the draft, that's not an option for you. Unless you pull a Cleveland and trade back like they did for that turkey Weedon. But there's no one at the top of this draft that any team will give that kind of bonanza for.

SP: Hey, wat about #33 overall? You always said that was better than a 1st round pick.

BB: Yeah, but that was before I wasted the damn 33rd pick on Dowling in 2011. Besides, draft picks are overrated. Look how Greg Bedard howled about trading a bloody 4th for Aqib Talib - his 2 pick 6's started the SB rout for us. No, I've decided that all that stockpiling draft picks and trading into the future stuff was overrated.

SP: I see your point. But this is a pretty deep draft, from what I hear. You might get someone who can actually play around 33. What do you say we think it over?

BB: Well, I hate Oakland and Denver, and I'd love to see someone actually put Peyton in his place. I'll think about it. But don't hold your breath - the kid is good, and I think I'd have to be a fool to do that trade. But I'll think about it.

SP: Gee thanks Bill. I'll call you next week. Bye. And great SB win. Really great.

BB: Thanks. Talk to you later Scott.

(Hangs up, grinning).


Something like that.
 
I can see it now:



Something like that.


Later


BB (phone rings) Bill Belichick here


SP Hi Bill, it's Scott.


BB. What can I do for you Scott?


SP. We've been mulling this QB issue over and over and we've decided that we'd like to offer our #33 for him.


BB. That's great Scott but we're not overly enchanted with this class. Let me suggest something. As you know, it's generally recognized that a pick in the following years draft is worth a round higher than the current draft. How about you trade your 2014 1st for Mallett?


SP. I don't know Bill, thant's a high price.

BB. But you'll have your starting QB in place and you'll have two picks in the top 33 this year. with such a weak division, you could make a real push for the playoffs.


SP. That's why they call you the genius Bill. OK. We'll do it.


BB. Done (smiles)

Much, much later


April, 2014


With the first pick in the 2014 NFL draft, the New England Patriots select Jadeveon Clowney, Defensive End, South Carolina
 
BB: Hey Scott, it's Bill. I was just calling to tell you that Ron Brace is the next Wilfork!
 
Couldn't agree more. By the way, I heard you loved Marvin Jones. You're in good company

I love intelligent footballers and Jones knew how to play the game. His sideline judgement was fantastic.

I see Markus Wheaton very much the same. you?


I finally got round to watching your UCLA CB pair. They're fascinating. You watch them and think they're fantastic but then realise that they're not always achieving that much. If it wasn't for one game where one of them got 3 INT's (can't remember which one - they're seperated at birth) they've only got two int's each over two years. They look perfect for the role, but where's the production? Is it athletic limitations? Scheme?
 
If Nix III comes out is he out of our range? I'm not even halfway through my first ND game and I'm already in love. I've yet to seem him single teamed, and the way he dismisses blockers to plug a gap, he looks like Wilfork.

It's only vs Wake Forest, but once I'm finished with this I'm going to the USC game.

Does Tuitt - Nix III - Lewis-Moore remind anyone else of Seymour - Wilfork - Warren?
 
If Nix III comes out is he out of our range? I'm not even halfway through my first ND game and I'm already in love. I've yet to seem him single teamed, and the way he dismisses blockers to plug a gap, he looks like Wilfork.

It's only vs Wake Forest, but once I'm finished with this I'm going to the USC game.

Does Tuitt - Nix III - Lewis-Moore remind anyone else of Seymour - Wilfork - Warren?

DL porn!!!
 
DL porn!!!

Yeah. The ideal grizzly would be longer than Nix III, and fit better as a 5 tech so Wilfork could retake the 0 in the 3-4. Brockers basically, but if you think Nix III can be the next elite nose tackle then he'd be more than worth a trade up.

I wish Brockers fell. He already has 3 sacks and only has played 7 games.:eek:

I just saw Nix III get triple teamed, then effortlessly disengage all three and sniff out a RB screen. Beast!! as Grid would say.
 
Yeah. The ideal grizzly would be longer than Nix III, and fit better as a 5 tech so Wilfork could retake the 0 in the 3-4. Brockers basically, but if you think Nix III can be the next elite nose tackle then he'd be more than worth a trade up.

I wish Brockers fell. He already has 3 sacks and only has played 7 games.:eek:

I just saw Nix III get triple teamed, then effortlessly disengage all three and sniff out a RB screen. Beast!! as Grid would say.

Just started ND and USC on your recommendation. Haven't watched ND all year so should be interesting.
 
WalterFootball.com: 2013 NFL Draft: Defensive Tackle Rankings

Louis Nix*, DT, Notre Dame
Height: 6-5. Weight: 326.
Projected 40 Time: 5.55.
Projected Round (2013): 1.

11/17/12: Nix has been an animal for Notre Dame this season. He has been a disruptive force who blasts through the line. Nix has caused a lot of havoc on run plays for his teammates to clean up. He has totaled 35 tackles, 4.5 tackles for a loss, two sacks, three passes broken up and one forced fumble this year.

The numbers don't illustrate how good Nix has been for the Irish. He looks like a first-round talent for the 2013 NFL Draft, but could crack the top half of the first round if he returns for 2014 and plays well.

8/25/12: Nix had a strong sophomore season for Notre Dame. He was a tough run plugger at the point of attack and did a good job of occupying blockers. Nix totaled 45 tackles with 4.5 tackles for a loss, .5 sacks and a pass batted. In the spring head coach Brian Kelly almost rode Nix out of South Bend and removed Nix from a starting spot. Nix worked his way back into the starting lineup, and it looks like a motivational ploy by Kelly. Nix has a big personality known by his nickname "Irish Chocolate" and creating a segment of YouTube videos entitled "Chocolate News."

I'll take Louis Nix in the first round, that is if he declares.
 
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Just started ND and USC on your recommendation. Haven't watched ND all year so should be interesting.

Lots of good prospect in that one, but I don't need to tell you that.

I always have these open when scouting: College Player Database - Depth Chart

WalterFootball.com: 2013 NFL Draft: Defensive Tackle Rankings



I'll take Louis Nix in the first round, that is if he declares.

I would too, and we'd have no shot at him next year. I don't think he's 6'5" though.
 
what do you think Carradine's stock is? I think if we can get him at the tail end of the second then we should go for it.
 
what do you think Carradine's stock is? I think if we can get him at the tail end of the second then we should go for it.

Third to Fourth round seems to be the consensus. Jimbo Fisher says he'll be good to go next season so I absolutely agree, take him in the 2nd. With Cunningham, Nink and Bequette, it's not like we have to rush him in.
 
what do you think Carradine's stock is? I think if we can get him at the tail end of the second then we should go for it.
Third to Fourth round seems to be the consensus. Jimbo Fisher says he'll be good to go next season so I absolutely agree, take him in the 2nd. With Cunningham, Nink and Bequette, it's not like we have to rush him in.

CBS has him at 110 which seems right to me, and he's in Brugler's new Risers and Fallers: NFL Draft Risers and Fallers - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

It seems each week we are reminded just how cruel this game came be and not even the most talented players are immune from injuries. Two weeks ago, Penn State standout linebacker Michael Mauti went down with a knee injury and this past Saturday in the Seminoles loss to the Gators, senior Cornellius "Tank" Carradine suffered a torn ACL in his right knee on a non-contact play late in the fourth quarter. Although he entered the 2012 season as a reserve, he quickly made an impact as a starter when senior Brandon Jenkins was lost for the year with a Lisfranc injury, giving Carradine the opportunity to shine. The injury is devastating news for Carradine who had played his way into the first round discussion after an excellent senior campaign, recording 11.0 sacks and 13.0 tackles for loss through 12 games in 2012. Every player responds differently to knee injuries and scouts are hopeful he will return healthy at some point next summer or fall, but the injury will certainly hurt his draft stock with his health in question. Time will tell where he lands on draft weekend, but unfortunately for Carradine, it's fair to say his first round hopes are now doubtful.
 
Carradine in the 3rd round would be a great value, but I'm sure some other teams would have the same idea. A lot depends on how quickly he heals and whether he can show anything at all prior to the draft. But Ryan Broyles still went 2nd round despite an ACL injury.

Well sure, it only takes one team, but Broyles healed very quickly. I don't think Carradine will be able to workout in front of scouts like Broyles.
 
Well sure, it only takes one team, but Broyles healed very quickly. I don't think Carradine will be able to workout in front of scouts like Broyles.

Yeah. Broyles happened early in the season. Not the last game. With the depth at the position and no desperate needs, we can afford to redshirt him.
 


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