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I And guess what? With all those problems and concerns... We still made the playoffs, split with NE, and only finished 2 games out from winning the AFC East... I already know this year is the Jets year to take over NE... Its about to happen. Cya after the game.
Funny..there were few injuries and it all seemed to go teh Jesters way..what will Mangina do when there is some adversity??? Delude yourslef more and more..you'll be squealing like a stuck pig...although we won't see you..because you'll be GONE!!!
 
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Samuel, Warren, Wilfork, Vrabel, Adalius Thomas, Jarvis Green (best back-up DL in the NFL), Ellis Hobbs, Eugene Wilson, Brandon Meriweather (#1 pick), James Sanders (filled in for Rodney most of last year, BB loves him).

Yes, if YOU lost two of your most important defensive players, you'd be SCREWED - the Pats have FAR more talent to atone for those losses than the freakin' jets do. I mean, really, be serious.

WE BEAT YOU BY 21 WITHOUT RODNEY LAST YEAR. And without Eugene Wilson. And Seau. And Randall Gay. And Moss, Stallworth, Welker, with an injured Maroney.

You need to see the bigger picture. Oh, and you're an idiot. There's that, too.
 
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Stallworth is not just a deep threat,it's just what he does best. Moss/brady looked just fine when they were practicing together(manning/harrison didn't take years to be great together,they hooked up very early).


You forgot to mention the additions of Adalius Thomas, the return of R.Gay,and the return of Euguen Wilson, Meriweather for a rookie,actually looked pretty decent himself. -----And you completely left out colvin/ vrable/seymour ect. <<---Bruschi,not seymour


Kids i tell ya
 
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So Maroney can't play well in this ONE game against the jets because he hasn't handled a full NFL season-long workload? That makes no sense.
 
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starter on their team as well as Merriweather and Sanders.

Bro... You lost any kind of credit that you could have ever had from me right there... E.Colman can start over Sanders any day... How many games has Sanders started in his Backup Career? And what round was he drafted?

And are you really serious and do you actually really believe that a rookie in Merriweather can start over a Superstar in the NFL in K.Rhodes? Man... How bout you pay attention to ESPN, SI, watch some damn games... Because SI has K.Rhodes as the 29th best player in the NFL...

Bro, you really know nothing. The Pats secondary may just be the downfall on thier season.
 
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I have nothing but facts in that thread...

To sum it up...

Seymour who is a leader on that DLine='s... Out.

Harrison who has been a play-maker in that secondary for year now= Out.

I dont care what anyone says... Thats like the Jets losing Vilma and Rhodes... Loosing 2 starting defensive player who happen to be the 2 leaders of the D is a big time problem. BB is one hell of a coach, if not great right? Tell me this... Tell me why he had Seymour and Harrison as the starters?

Dillon who may have lost a step or two but at the same time was still a proven workhorse in the backfield=Gone

A Runner who has yeat to prove that he can handle the work-load for a full 16 game season, let alone a single game in the NFL in L.Maroney. Who in my eyes had injury problems at the end of last season, and most of TC and Preseason this year...=IN


Last season the Jets had Barlow and Blaylock as starting runningbacks coming into week 1... Let me guess... Thomas Jones and Leon Washington are not upgrades as a 1-2 punch in the backfield?

Last year we had a rookie HC in Mangini, a 1st year OC in Martys Boy, 2 rookies on the O-Line, a defense playing it's first year under Mangini's 3-4, Kimo on the D-Line, No true #2 CB... Thats why we drafted Revis... No explosive MLB playing next to Vilma... Thats why we added D.Harris out of Michigan... And guess what? With all those problems and concerns... We still made the playoffs, split with NE, and only finished 2 games out from winning the AFC East... I already know this year is the Jets year to take over NE... Its about to happen. Cya after the game.

The Pats have had Seymour and Harrison out for periods at a time, Dillon was wicked slow last year. I know you remember the Jets game he broke through the line and should have been a td but looked like he was running in mud.

The bottom line is the Pats have won losing key players at different periods. Eugene Wilson, Seymour, Bruschi, Watson, Harrison, Seymour, Gay.

Just look at the amount of games missed due to injury. The Pats have proven that they can overcome it.
 
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Bro... You lost any kind of credit that you could have ever had from me right there... E.Colman can start over Sanders any day... How many games has Sanders started in his Backup Career? And what round was he drafted?

And are you really serious and do you actually really believe that a rookie in Merriweather can start over a Superstar in the NFL in K.Rhodes? Man... How bout you pay attention to ESPN, SI, watch some damn games... Because SI has K.Rhodes as the 29th best player in the NFL...

Bro, you really know nothing. The Pats secondary may just be the downfall on thier season.

Again, come back after week 1.
 
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Will bust as an "Over Hyped" "Team" and actually miss the playoffs for the first time in a long time. And I won't sit here and lie, as a Jet fan... I'm gonna be loving it.

Now I know every team has bad luck with injuries, and as a fan it's annyoying when it happens to be big name players, just ask the Jets who went 4-12 with an injured Chad... The Patriots have lost two key players that were leaders of that Defense in each and every playoff and superbowl run.

R.Seymour will be hard to replace, yea Jarvis Green is actually more than an average backup DE, but at the same time... As a Jet fan... He's no R.Seymour, not even close. Not only can R.Seymour get after the QB with the best of em, he at times can help contain if not shut down the run by finding a way to get past the D-Line, He can play LB, DT, DE, he's been a play-maker for this NE Defense for quite some time in my eyes.. At first I was worried about Seymour going up against one of our younger offensive O-Lineman in Ferguson from the left side, with J.Green now starting I honestly feel that the Brick can do more than just hold his own.

Green could start on most NFL teams, Seymour is a loss, but Green will do just fine.

R.Harrison? I guess all those cheap shots and late hits from Harrison all through his playing career wasnt because he was actually a dirty player, I now feel it was simply something we call "Roid Rage". But at the same time, he was honestly a leader of that Defense who would make the tough hits and the tough tackles that made him a great Safety for many of years in that Defensive backfield. Will teams still be nervious about passing through the middle of the field as of right now? Maybe not. Call me crazy, but the Patriots Defense may just feel a strong impact from the loss of 2 leaders and 2 all pro type players for a good 6 weeks, if not longer. R.Seymour was the leader on that D-Line with Wilfork and Warren and R.Harrison was the leader of that secondary with A.Samuels. Is A.Samules even ready to start this week?

Learn the difference between steroids and HGH, rodney used it to heal faster, not to hit harder. He was a leader, and the patriots played without him for parts of last year and did fine. It is still only 4 weeks, there will be 12 more regular season games for him to play in. and Meriweather and Sanders will improve as the year goes on. A. Samuel won't start if he isn't the best. Randall Gay can play corner fine.

The loss of C.Dillon may just hurt this NE Patriots rushing attack... He may have lost a step or two, but he was one player who could always get that extra 2-3 yards and be that work-house that every great team needs to set up the pass. One thing about Dillon, I seen it all last year, he would help tire down the Defense and L.Maroney would benefit alot by the smash mouth style of play from Dillon. Can Maroney stay healthy? Can Maroney make it through a full 16 game season as the feature back? Who knows, maybe so... But as a Jets fan, I know one thing... The loss of Dillon may just slow down the progression of Maroney.

See Sammy Morris

The Montana-Rice and Manning-Harrison connection has been so great and in my eyes it's all based on timing, trust, chemestry, and feel for the WR's... Look at Manning and Harrison, have you ever seen the way they practice with eachother before games? As far as Brady-Moss goes, I really dont feel Moss is the Moss from his days with the Vikings, and I just dont feel that Brady will take the league by storm like alot of NE fans think.

No, they will run the ball too, if Brady gets 700 yards out of Caldwell, you should get the picture.

Stallworth is nothing more than a deep threat who may pull a hammy when going for a Tom Brady hail marry. I know one thing, Moss and Stallworth are not the recievers to ask to make that tough 3rd and 8, or that tough catch in the middle of the field in crutial situations. Welker may just be the best WR on this team.

Stallworth is one of the better deep threats though. He will help open up the running game, and short passing game. And yes, welker is a great receiver, and being worse than him is not an insult.
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Lat season the Patriots only finished 2 games above the Jets in the AFC East standing.

Last season we made the playoffs with Kevin Barlow, D.Blaylock, and C.Houston as our runningbacks... lmao. This year we have a 1-2 punch in Thomas Jones and Leon Washington who can take it for a huge gain each and every time he gets the ball in the flats.

Last year we had a rookie who was injured, and a veteran who was great near the endzone, but had lost a step, and yet we made the playoffs. This year, with a healthy Maroney, and Sammy Morris sharing the load, that will make another great 1-2 punch.

Last season we had 2 rookies on the O-Line in Ferguson and Mangold. I know one thing, I'v had a chance to see a great HOC Center play in his prime in Kevin Mayae, and with Mangold... Bare injury, this kid is a future pro-bowl center for years to come. Last season Brickashaw Ferguson made some rookie mistakes at times, which is expected and in the NFL, rookies who start right away will make mistakes... But as a fan I can say this... We drafted a Franchise LT, and that 4th pick in round one was well spent.

We have a pretty good O-line too.

As far as WR's go... We have Pocket A's if you ask me. Coles in one of the toughest WR's to play the position in a long time, and a player who will get his 1,000 yards recieving each and every year. J.Cotchery came into his own last year as a first year starter, much before the late TD in the 4th Quarter vs New England... This kid broke almost each and every record set by T.Holt while playing at UNC, dont ask me why Herm Edwards had this kid on the bench for 2 seasons... Dont ask me.

Yea, your receivers are good, but it is just as likely that Pennington is injured, as say Maroney. And without a good QB receivers don't look so good. See Randy Moss in Oakland.

Last season we actually made the playoffs with a rookie HC in Eric Mangini (Thanks alot BB and the whole Patriots front office)along with a first year OC in Martys boy.

And boy did those Jets own it up in the playoffs

Last year we also made the playoffs in our first year running the 3-4 under Mangini after so many years in the 4-3 with Herm Edwards. We even had Kimo as our starting DE, guess what? He's been cut. This year players such as Vilma, Ellis, Robertson, Barton, Hobson and B.Thomas will all be in thier 2nd year under the 3-4 and with the addition of David Harris, I look for our front 7 to be alot better stopping the run...

The patriots added this decent LB known as Adalius Thomas. Look for our front 7 to be a lot better.

This year we went and brang is a proven work horse in Thomas Jones, we drafted the best CB out of the draft in D.Revis who has looked great in preseason (First CB drafted by the Jets since Aaron Glenn) And we also drafted D.Harris out of Michigan in the 2nd round where most draft experts say he was the 2nd best MLB in the draft (And he played a 3-4 D) and a for sure 1st round talent.

We drafted a safety Brandon Meriweather, who would have been taken much higher if he didn't have a few mishaps.

With C.Baker being who is a solid TE, Chad Pennington will have alot of options on the O-Side of the ball... We just need our O-Line to work as a better unit coming into it's 2nd season working together. This has been Chads first offseason in over 3 years where he has actually been healthy. Say what you want about Chad, but he knows how to manage a game, he knows how to win, and he had 2 recievers last season with NO RUN GAME almost with 1,000 yards recieving... Well Cotch actually missed 1,000 by a small number.

Tom Brady will have a lot of options on the O-Side of the ball with all the new additions. As long as the Offensive line keeps it together, they are going to be great. Tom Brady has also had some experience managing games.

Not to forget... But we also have one the best secondarys in the AFC as of right now with Dyson, Revis, Miller(Who is one of the best KR's in the game today) and Barrett as our 4 CB's and E.Coleman and K.Rhodes as our safetys, Look at E.Reeds stats, and look at K.Rhodes stats from last year... And tell me who should have been in the pro bowl?

The patriots have one of the best secondaries in the AFC with Hobbs, Samuel, Gay, Wilson, Meriweather. wilson and Meriweather are versatile players who can play both Safety and Corner.

Call me crazy all you want... Jets only finished 2 games behind the Pats last year for the AFC East... We are 10 times better this year with year 2 under Mangini that as a Jet fan, it's not even funny. Just dont think that you all will run away with this division... Because i'm telling you now... Jets will be the AFC East champions... It's then up to the Pats to fight for the Wilcard. Last year we had to fight for the wild card and win 3 games str8 to make the playoffs... This year it's the Patriots turn.

you are crazy, it will be funny, as a patriots fan, to go back and read this come playoffs.
 
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Ill be back after week 1 just to say gg...
 
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Bro... You lost any kind of credit that you could have ever had from me right there... E.Colman can start over Sanders any day... How many games has Sanders started in his Backup Career? And what round was he drafted?

And are you really serious and do you actually really believe that a rookie in Merriweather can start over a Superstar in the NFL in K.Rhodes? Man... How bout you pay attention to ESPN, SI, watch some damn games... Because SI has K.Rhodes as the 29th best player in the NFL...

Bro, you really know nothing. The Pats secondary may just be the downfall on thier season.

The Pats went to the AFC championship game with Sanders at safety, infact they beat the Bolts and your jets with Sanders at safety. Where were your Jets last year in January?
 
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The Pats went to the AFC championship game with Sanders at safety, infact they beat the Bolts and your jets with Sanders at safety.

I'd like a response to this post, as well. Looking forward to it, DWC.
 
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Man... How bout you pay attention to ESPN, SI, watch some damn games... Because SI has K.Rhodes as the 29th best player in the NFL...
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Yeah and Espn and SI are always right. They are opinion based. I think you've been listening a little too much to Michael Irvin in the past and Emmit.

How about you become a free thinker instead of taking other people's opinions as your own.
 
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I have nothing but facts in that thread...

To sum it up...

Seymour who is a leader on that DLine='s... Out.

Harrison who has been a play-maker in that secondary for year now= Out.

I dont care what anyone says... Thats like the Jets losing Vilma and Rhodes...only not as bad, do you have any idea how many injuries the patriots have had in recent years? Loosing 2 starting defensive player who happen to be the 2 leaders of the D is a big time problem. BB is one hell of a coach, if not great right? Tell me this... Tell me why he had Seymour and Harrison as the starters?

Dillon who may have lost a step or two but at the same time was still a proven workhorse in the backfield=GoneSammy Morris

A Runner who has yeat to prove that he can handle the work-load for a full 16 game season, let alone a single game in the NFL in L.Maroney. Who in my eyes had injury problems at the end of last season, and most of TC and Preseason this year...=INA Corner Revis, so highly looked upon by you, who has yet to prove himself


Last season the Jets had Barlow and Blaylock as starting runningbacks coming into week 1... Let me guess... Thomas Jones and Leon Washington are not upgrades as a 1-2 punch in the backfield?congrats, you have upgraded

Last year we had a rookie HC in Mangini, a 1st year OC in Martys Boy, 2 rookies on the O-Line, a defense playing it's first year under Mangini's 3-4, Kimo on the D-Line, No true #2 CB... Thats why we drafted Revis... No explosive MLB playing next to Vilma... Thats why we added D.Harris out of Michigan... And guess what? With all those problems and concerns... We still made the playoffs, split with NE, and only finished 2 games out from winning the AFC East... I already know this year is the Jets year to take over NE... Its about to happen. Cya after the game.but you will have stopped posting after the game due to humiliation, unless you are like aqua...

I wrote what i have to say in bold.
 
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Hey Jets troll I was just listening to Sirius NFL Radio and Solomon Wilcots picked your bunch to finish last in the AFCE. Adam Schein picked you guys to finish 3rd meanwhile. LOL. Go vent on their phone lines instead and spare us your crap.
 
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Jests Fans = Delusional:singing:
 
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man... how long did it take to type that up.....:rolleyes:
 
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Bro... You lost any kind of credit that you could have ever had from me right there... E.Colman can start over Sanders any day... How many games has Sanders started in his Backup Career? And what round was he drafted?

And are you really serious and do you actually really believe that a rookie in Merriweather can start over a Superstar in the NFL in K.Rhodes? Man... How bout you pay attention to ESPN, SI, watch some damn games... Because SI has K.Rhodes as the 29th best player in the NFL...

Bro, you really know nothing. The Pats secondary may just be the downfall on thier season.
You keep talking and you look even dumber if you go by SI as a source..Let's all bow down to SI...Big S**** And we have the number ONE dumbest troll here....and we don't need SI...to confirm it.
 
Re: Take it for however you wanna take it... Jets will win the AFC East and the Patri

Hey Jets troll I was just listening to Sirius NFL Radio and Solomon Wilcots picked your bunch to finish last in the AFCE. Adam Schein picked you guys to finish 3rd meanwhile. LOL. Go vent on their phone lines instead and spare us your crap.

Solomon doesn't know anything, he's not on Espn or SI.(sarcasm)
 
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