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  1. Sean Pa Patriot

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    On the depth chart, ive been a huge fan of his, but some how 1 catch in 2 weeks is starting to look like he may be gone .. Ive been in his corner,but Gaffney played alot more than he has in the last 2 weeks.. I guess some people may get thier wish and he will be a 1 and done here in Foxboro. Personally I would rather him here, but its now starting to look like it wont be worth it money wise..
     
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    I'd agree. It's not like today's conditions favored a guy who's specialty is shorter passes as opposed to a guy like Stallworth who is more of a deep threat.

    It's not like the winds were 20-30 mph and it was rainy or snowy conditions -otherwise it would make perfect sense to give your short passing options more reps.

    I'd say today's game is proof positive that they've lost confidence in Stallworth. :rolleyes:

    I'm just amazed - a few days ago people were complaining about the lack of a running game and today, given rain, snow, sleet and wind, people are grumbling about the lack of a deep pass attack.

    ????
     
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    I think Stallworth was 1-n-done right after Moss was signed. He has done a fine job this year but the money isn't right for a #2 and CJ will need a role to grow into next year. I just hope Gaffney is back for short money since he is ideal as a #4 receiver.
     
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    While Stallworth might have been a deep-threat in the past, he's been all about the YACs this year. He's earned his pay catching short passes and making something happen. I was surprised he wasn't used more today.
     
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    This is Boston. Is this type of attitude new to you people? Not everyone will talk about how awesome we are all the time.
     
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    Stallworth HASN'T been used as a deep threat much this season (other than decoy maybe). His production has been short passes, then YAC, and mid-ranged catches. I would think he would have been ideal for this type of game. He runs like a RB when he has the ball.
     
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    EXACTLY. This is the exact role that I think my man "BAM" can play for us next season...and for a fraction of the $$. He may not have Stallworth's Size or speed... but he can make similar plays in space (almost like a rb) coming in on 4/5 WR sets.

    I cant wait to throw it back at all you haters. :D
     
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    Has Stallworth come down with Donald Hayes syndrome?
     
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    Nobody could possibly have Donald Hayes disease...except maybe Hart Lee Dykes
     
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    In the last 3 weeks; Gaffney has had more long catches; and more short catches than Stallworth.

    I think its obvious he's been bumped down. The question is: Will the bump last the entire season.

    I really don't care if it does. Its nice seeing Stallworth tear thru the defense after the catch; But I think Gaffney's ability to catch the ball is just as good as Stallworth's; And if Gaffney is a better route runner then he wins (not saying he is; but there must be some reason he's been seeing more looks).

    Of course, there will always be Stallworth apologists (probably the same Maroney apologist crowd): It was windy; It was cold; The gameplan favored the short game (which is what we actually have used Stallworth at); He was up against the top corner in the league so obviously they didn't throw it at him; He was double teamed; He served as a decoy and did his job...etc etc etc
     
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    they cant just get rid of him and his contract so easy. if they cut him they still have to pay full salary. all they can do is trade him and see how much of his contract the new team will take. at the high level they paid him im assuming we'd still have to eat a lot of it
     
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    Gaffney, 50 snaps yesterday....Stallworth, 18 snaps yesterday..
     
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    No, the contract was written such that it is easy to terminate after year one. Not so easy in future years.
     
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    Yes - and the game before - when the winds weren't 30 mph and there wasn't sleet and freezing rain that made the deep game impossible, the stats were switched.

    I'm not saying Gaffney isn't or couldn't supplant Stallworth as the #2 WR... I'm just saying you don't make that statement based on a game where the Patriots OC would have to be CRAZY to put in a deep threat WR when the game conditions and tactics required short passes.

    Why is this so confusing for people?

    Based on your logic, ignoring that the conditions favored a short passing game over a long one, I suppose everyone here also thinks that Belichick has lost faith in Brady and the passing game?

    After all - last week the Patriots passed more than they ran. But this week, they ran more than they passed.

    Ergo, the passing game now ranks #2 to the running game as the #1 priority.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    Has anyone else noticed a little more chemistry with Gaff and Brady than with the other receivers?
     
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    Ive noticed it but i dont know why. I mean i guess hes left to be the open guy most of the time but come on. He's very iffy on some plays.
     
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    Not sure but maybe it's because Gaffney introduced TB to Giselle?
     
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    If it wasn't for Moss I think Stallworth was going to be the deep threat, but once they got Moss Donte's role diminished greatly. I still think he can be a great weapon, but I certainly don't anticipate the Patriots keeping him at his current salary. That was something I think most of us new the day he signed.
     
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    I'm in the same boat. It has nothing to do with this season, but Gaffney and CJ battle it our for the #2 opposite Moss next season. Stallworth is worth the money with the plethora of other cheaper options next year. Keep Washington as the #5 ST/WR if they think his cap hit is a good value in that role.
     
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    I think Gaffney has the advantage of an additional year of continuity with Brady. So, I think he is probably better with option routes and the like. I think the team believes that having higher awareness is more valuable than a better athletic skill set.

    Obviously, Stallworth is a much more physically tallented player. I also think that Brady has been missing Stallworth a lot lately. He was open several times working out of that cluster set yesterday. It's a shame to pass him up on the 2,3 and 4 routes he has been running, especially when he is cleared in an iso situation. I have never seen someone as dangerous after the catch...the dude's a beast. It's disapointing to see such a great player so underutilized in this system. I hope he has a monster year next year with whoever signs him.
     
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