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I was surfing other boards to see the opinions of other teams fans on the Collins trade, and came across this gem:
Thread Title: That's Why The Cheatriots Traded Collins
I gotta say I was surprised by many of the responses getting on the OP's ass for saying 'Cheatriots'. One guy even gave a very sound and true explanation (as we all view it - unless your name is Felger) of both spygate and deflategate:
Thought he was a pats fan as he sounded very knowledgeable about us, but looking at his avi - guess not. Then reading the multiple other responses defending us gives me hope that perhaps one day we won't have to keep constantly defending our team.
I mean yeah, there'll always be the die-hard haters especially in the AFCE, but its made me realize that hey, maybe fans of other teams are now finally coming around to seeing that its all been about Goodell all along and the pats really didn't do anything egregious.
Anyways I found it quite refreshing after reading responses about the Collins trade on Bills/Jets boards /shudder. Course it could be because its an NFC team and they don't seem to generally hate us as much as AFC teams.
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Link to thread: That's Why The Cheatriots Traded Collins
Thread Title: That's Why The Cheatriots Traded Collins
I gotta say I was surprised by many of the responses getting on the OP's ass for saying 'Cheatriots'. One guy even gave a very sound and true explanation (as we all view it - unless your name is Felger) of both spygate and deflategate:
You lose credibility with the Cheateriots comments if you ask me.
Spy gate they deserved what they got but if you take the time to understand what transpired you probably wouldn't call them cheaters. They misunderstood the rules. The misconception is they were fined for filming other teams. That's not true they were fined not for the taping but for where the taping occurred. They claim they misunderstood the rules. (Which is likely true) Everyone was taping back then and still are but there are rules and NE broke one of them. Had they filmed from the media booth like they were allowed to do they wouldn't have been fined. They were fined for filming from an unotherized location.
Deflate gate was a joke and a witch hunt that cost Goodell credibility. He had no evidence at all. He only won because of language in the CBA that said he could do whatever he wants to do in terms of punishment. One judge criticized him heavily for his actions.
I'm not going to debate either with anyone but if you really take the time to understand what really went on in both cases you'd probably see NE in a diferent light. I'm not a NE fan or a Brady fan but I understand that they got a raw deal for doing what every team does.
Onto Collins ......
Collins is a me first player. He was free lancing on plays and thought he was worth Von Miller money.
He found out he was expendable. The truth has now come out and it will hurt him come contract time. He won't get what he thinks he's worth. Likely CLE will be forced to tag him or let him hit FA.
Personally I think what BB did here was pure genius.
He had a player asking for crazy money and was freelancing to boost his stats. Obviously looking not at the team but at his pay day come free agency.
BB could pay the man which is condoning his behaviour. Or he could bench him, isolate him and lose him come free agency. Which in turn sends the message to other players that they can do the same. Or he could trade him to a dog house team like CLE. Then announce his free Lansing to the world. Hurting his free agent stock and future endorsement money.
BB sent a message to his players that he won't tolerate this type of behavior.
"When I die I want the Detroit Lions to be my pallbearer's so they can let me down one last time." "I hope they sing the song Another One Bites the Dust for me."
Thought he was a pats fan as he sounded very knowledgeable about us, but looking at his avi - guess not. Then reading the multiple other responses defending us gives me hope that perhaps one day we won't have to keep constantly defending our team.
I mean yeah, there'll always be the die-hard haters especially in the AFCE, but its made me realize that hey, maybe fans of other teams are now finally coming around to seeing that its all been about Goodell all along and the pats really didn't do anything egregious.
Anyways I found it quite refreshing after reading responses about the Collins trade on Bills/Jets boards /shudder. Course it could be because its an NFC team and they don't seem to generally hate us as much as AFC teams.
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Cheatriots? God, get over it already....
Read Air's post. There is nothing there that you probably don't already know and have rejected, but the conduct of the commissioner was grossly egregious the second time around and the commissioner only proved that the Patriots and Brady didn't cheat, when they released false air pressure readings, let them stand in the court of public opinion for four months before releasing the real measurements, stopped gathering evidence when the Indianapolis balls were under-inflated, too, hired an independent investigator who was anything but independent, lied about that, then concluded the bias of the investigator didn't matter.
Link to thread: That's Why The Cheatriots Traded Collins
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