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  1. Halifax_Pats_Fan

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    Reports are he is gonna be in NY for 5 more years...
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    I read the same thing on the Jets board. They said 5-year deal as well, per Schefter.

    Bring it on, I say!
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    #32 Jersey

    Damn, was hoping the skins would steal him. Hopefully they can't afford Edwards too.
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    Well the delusion that "Don't worry, if the Jets get Asomugha, Sanchez will have to throw to Crotchery as #1, haha"

    Damn.... at worst case Holmes and Cotchery isn't bad.
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    Good move for them assuming they aren't giving him $10 million a year. He bailed them out of a lot of games last year.

    They still need a #2 WR. Cotchery sucked last year. They have zero depth too. But that was a good start for them.
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    Man....this isn't good. If they get Aso and Holmes......man, not good. Is Bill up and working? Waiting for our next move..
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    Any guesses for the per year amount?? He could have really held them to the fire and worked up the price (if him and his agent wanted to).
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    I don't know Cotchery has progressively declined over the last three years.
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    How good of a deal this is depends on how much they're paying him.
    Without the March 11th dead money 'bailout' there's no way the Jets could have afforded to keep him.
    Nice work commish! *wink* :rolleyes:
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    My guess is 5 years (we know it is 5 years) at $45 million with $20 million guaranteed. Making it $9 million a year. Just a guess though.

    Andre Johnson got slightly over $10 million a year last year. Don't see Holmes making a heck of a lot less. I assume it will be about $1 million less a year.
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    Would anyone be shocked if they go and get Randy for cheap to play across Santonio?
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    From ESPN:

    New York Jets agree to deal with Santonio Holmes, sources say - ESPN New York
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    Agreed. Let's hope that Edwards departs.
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    :rofl: :rofl:
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    Holmes is a good player, but he certainly isn't Andre Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald good and he is getting money as if he is. I think he was a neccessary resigning, but the Jets are really overpaying for him at $10 million a year. I thought the Jets would overpay for him at $9 million a year.
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    He is a clutch signing for them. He makes me very nervous if the jets are driving down the field. Not a big fan at all of his attitude. I think it pretty much sucks but his talent is undeniable.

    It would be very interesting to be in the Jets facility to see what changes they are making to contracts. $ amounts..who knows, I'd also agree with the 8-9 mil range.

    They want to compete and you have to give them credit for that. Just more reason to bring your A game to play against this team....the rivalry is great....

    ....10 m/yr....still not buying that one, that is a one very hefty price tag...
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    I was hoping the Redskins would sign Holmes, and that would force the Jets to overpay for Edwards, who is certainly an inferior reciever.

    The fact that the deal is going to cost the Jets around 50 million makes it a little easier to swallow, but I still hate the Jets getting such a good player in his prime. This is crappy news for Pats fans.
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    I wouldn't be shocked by any means, like many of us, but the only problem I would have with signing him is whether or not he really "buys into their philosophy." Rex has been great for acquiring some talent by getting guys revved up and wanting to play for him. It's especially evident with the guys on defense, but even on offense there is a sort of attitude. With Randy, he's too old to be getting "pumped up" like the younger guys, and there aren't many guys his own age up there. And he's supposed to have the patience to run routes for someone who's ten years younger? And block a lot for the running game? Not the best fit imo, but Rex could bring him in for the same reason as Kevin O'Connell. And that isn't to say that they wouldn't get production out of him, but if he takes plays off, guys like Bart Scott may call him out and then there'd be hell.
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    #87 Jersey

    He helped put a nail in the coffin in the pats season. (Although, some people on this board could have ran that route with 8 seconds to throw the damn ball)

    EDIT: Hahahaha 10million a year, I feel a little better. What will Sidney Rice get now...
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    I'm starting a weed fund to send Holmes a congratulation gift. Please make contributions fast so we can get it to him in time for his next drug test. :)
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    thats a lot of money.

    Does this rule out Asomugha?
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    It doesn't matter how they star-stud the roster. They will choke anyway. They proved it last year for what, the 40th time?
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    #87 Jersey

    Rob, looks like you were right if they get Nnamdi, they will have to cut their LB core now. :)
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    "10M per year" is meaningless.

    What are the first 3 year numbers (24M is guaranteed, that's probably counting first year salary as well) and what is the cap hit this season. Those are the only relevant questions
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    That article is the only place I see $10M and they do use the word "believed" so I'm not sure it's anything beyond speculation.
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    The Jets going into last season had tremendous value with their players. Guys like Revis, Mangold, Harris, and Holmes were getting paid on the cheap. But now they're all transitioning off their rookie contracts onto big-boy deals. That GM had tremendous value but now it's starting to wane. Players are all of a sudden being valued "correctly." Now they're struggling to maintain the team they had last year. Albeit, they did successfully get the extra fat that was once Gholston off the books, which offsets the value reduction.

    Maybe Holmes takes it a little easier this year, pulling up on those crossing patterns over the middle, now that he has his big contract. Not that he'll go Albert Haynesworth, but he already got his big contract.
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    The Jets had 2 options here this entire time, either they sign Holmes and let most of the rest of their team walk or they sign some core parts of their team and make Edwards their #1.

    10 million per year is the reported contract, that drys up all of their dead money which was freed up (yet we are still unable to get clarification on this). now if they went after aso they would need to restructure practically everyone and use every option available, leaving them in a huge hole for the next few years and also unable to sign the little pieces who will inevitably be forced to walk.

    Overall the Jets Downgrade at WR and everywhere else and upgrade at Corner.
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    First, the guaranteed money is calculated the same for every player. If Holmes is getting $24 million guaranteed, it is calculated the same as everyone else. Guranteed money typically does not factor in base salary whether it is year one or any other year.

    Second, I do agree that the total contract MAY NOT mean anything. It is all how it is structured.

    Third, even so, $24 million guaranteed is still a lot for Holmes.
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    This a significant signing for the Jets and any of you that laugh at the deal are just being defiant. If the Jets go on and sign Aso, they are clearly the favorites to win the East. Doesn't mean it will happen, but they will be the favorites, regardless of whether they have Edwards and regardless of Brady.

    So, thinking ahead, assuming everyone is healthy and the Pats stay pat at WR, Revis on
    Welker? Aso on Branch? The Pats would have no choice but to try to exploit the middle (safeties, lb's) with Gronk and Hernandez (thank G-D for them).

    Should be a really cool season! I'm really looking forward to what schemery BB can come up with.
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    Yeah this is what we thought last year. I'm sure the jets will have another "miracle" of money management by next year.
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