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    Clark played well for the Steelers in the Playoffs last season... ;)
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    I wasn't laughing at his accurate assessment of our playoff offense :bricks:
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    Yeah, he described our play-off offense against Houston to a tee...
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    It's not accurate, it's the biggest bullcrap ever to remark that Brady ducking is a result of seeing ghosts. Brady phantom ducked again once this year, and we had a long post listing all the ducks that worked.

    Brady ducks. A LOT. And most of the time he does it to great effect. Ask JJ Watt. If some people want to see Brady stand tall and get walloped all the times he would otherwise avoid pass rushers, they are missing the point--and the point is this: WINNING!
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    Just another player who's past his prime, and chooses to run his mouth in order to stay relevant.

    Tell you what Ryan, how about you start running your mouth when your team actually makes the playoffs again?

    Personally, I'd much rather our QB see ghosts than be stricken with an aliment that turns him into an insufferable moron like Clark is >_>.
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    You'd think with Pittsburgh just drafting the guys replacement he would try endearing himself to the 31 other teams in the league to help his future employment prospects.
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    who or what the hell is a Ryan Clark??? [​IMG]
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    Ryan's Clark's best known play...an illegal cheap shot blind side...he's #25..

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    Some of this can go both ways. Could Brady have over-relied on Welker too much?

    Also, I think the Steelers did well in man-to-man because the Pats weren't expecting it. Every time Brady faced the Steelers, they played zone. I think the Pats were caught off guard.

    Clark brings up the Jets when mentioning Brady seeing ghosts, but fails to mention that the Pats are 4-0 vs. the Jets since that playoff game. And over those four games, Brady has thrown for 9 TDs and only one INT. That playoff game against the Jets looks to he yet another example of the Pats being caught off guard by a team that threw out their go-to playbook and threw something completely different at them.
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    Oh yeah, the Steelers were great in the playoffs last season...oh wait.
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    James Harrison found work with an AFC North rival. It seems teams care little for the rhetoric of players if they can play. Clark (IMO) is a reasonable player.
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    that was the advent of Wrecksie's "amoeba!" defense...they stood d lineman up, walked LB's in all directions pre-snap and then drop into coverage when it looked like blitz, and blitzed the gaps when it looked like coverage...it worked the first time...they've lost every time since...Clark is a very stupid ,egomaniacal,mental defective. EOS.
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    If Brady's 'seeing ghosts' or 'soft' or whatever else people like Ryan Clark claim, then I'm totally fine with that. He understands that there's value in staying healthy, which is exactly why he'll be a top-tier quarterback long after Big Ben is sent to the scrap heap, despite being five years older.

    There are a lot of reasons why the Steelers missed the playoffs last year, but Byron Leftwich and Charlie Batch starting 3 games was a big one.
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    On the other side of the ball, Sparano unveiled the Wildcat against us in 2008, and it worked to great effect. The second time they played us, the Pats stopped it easily, and have been among the best at defending against it ever since.

    If you're willing to spend an entire offseason cooking up a new strategy, then unveil it against the Pats in a regular season game, then you have a pretty good shot at winning the game. Then again, I'd argue that showing your hand like that just for the benefit of a regular season win is pretty extreme. Better organizations tend to take a longer view of this stuff.
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    That's the thing -- the blueprint on how to beat the Pats under Belichick is pretty obvious, yet very few players and analysts seem to understand. You have to do something completely different than what you've done in your most recent games in general, and against the Pats specifically, and of course you need to do it well. This certainly isn't easy -- the "do it well" part is certainly tough -- but it's been done. The aforementioned Jets, Steelers, and Dolphins games, plus the Browns and 09 Broncos games are other obvious examples.

    I find it baffling that, on the one hand, these people cry "cheaters!" over SpyGate and claim the Pats knew every play that was coming. Yet on the other hand, when they try something new on the Pats and they win, they think that the new plan itself is the magic formula on how to beat the Pats. And they get stunned when that magic formula -- the Wildcat, or the Jets/Browns amoeba, or Tebow's offense -- suddenly doesn't work the second time. Everyone should know by now that the Pats *breathe* film, yet most opponents don't know how to use this to their advantage, or don't recognize it when they stumble across it.

    Let's hope it stays that way.
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    He gets jumpy now when no one gets open, in 2 seconds. ESPN had some stat where after 1 or 2 seconds his QB rating goes to one of the worst in the league when comparing QBs in that time period. Hopefully this is fixed by having more talent on the outside but is true this team got shut down in the playoffs because of a lack of WR talent each of the last 3 years.
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    Sorry, I don't buy it. Brady isn't the worst at anything and that includes the long ball.

    Someone's number's are skewed or statistically irrelevant.
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    I say the same, I think some of it though is we specialize on the quick ball and we had no deep threat. Maybe with a deep threat his stats will be awesome.
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    But that play happened vs the Jints, so I'm good with it.
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    I don't disagree with this, and I look forward to the Squeelers losing here on November 3rd.

    The Ravens, however, are a different story. And I really, really hope that Arthur Brown & Matt Elam
    don't become the next generation of Ray Lewis & Ed Reed for them.
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    :rolleyes: just use the eye test, it might be no fault with Brady just a lack of receiving talent.
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    I wish our QB was more like Sanchez/Ben/Eli and have rocks for brains and rather stand in the pocket and be "a real man" while he stares down a receiver instead of being smart and not turning the ball over.

    I mean between guys who stay in the pocket forever and have no concept of what's going on around them like Vick have done so much better than Brady. Why can't Brady be more like them? :mad:


    Every offense gets worse when you're able to consistently rush the passer. That's like saying "well the Patriots defense isn't as good when they aren't able to stop the run!"

    Against the Giants in SB 42 and Texans this past season, Brady was get WRECKED and he still played very well. Against the Texans he just obliterated them despite JJ Watt being on his back the entire game.
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    Lol at all the kneejerk homers in this thread. I HATE Ryan Clark and think he's not very bright, but here's a guy who has game planned against Brady and the Pats several times in the last few years. Whether the Steelers' game plans always worked is irrelevant . What IS relevant is that, like him or not, Ryan Clark knows, oh maybe a thousand times more about how to attack the Pats' offense and try and rattle Brady than any poster on this board ever will know in their lifetimes.

    Read the damn article--the guy makes some valid points that no one here seems to want to hear: 1) Welker's value to Brady, mainly based on being unbelievably in sync on timing routes and making reads [thinking Amendola will just step in and take over Welker's production is beyond idiotic--frankly it makes some of our fan base look downright delusional] is probably irreplacable. 2) the issue of Gronk's and Hernandez's inability to stay healthy. 3) Being able to slow down Gronk (when he even plays) and cover him one on one if you have a large very physical DB or two;and 4) the whole issue about press/man coverage being able to stifle our offense (if you have the personell to do it).

    Everybody has chosen to focus on the whole "Brady ducking" thing and trash Ryan Clark, rather than acknowledging that some of the other things he says make perfect sense.

    But by all means Homer-away if it helps you feel better about the state of the offense and how difficult it's going to be for Brady's to maintain his level of play the next couple of years. Ironically, the level of denial that some posters are in right now makes them resemble Jets' fans more than Patiots' fans.
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    Given the historic results against the Steelers, I suggest Ryan Clark and the Steelers D have absolutely no idea how to attack Tom Brady outside of the vaunted Amoeba D... which works once every three years. Now, had this been a member of the Giants team, that's a different matter all together.
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    Regardless of if the guy is a clown the point still stands that the offense has been flawed..hopefully the flaws have been corrected with this new look squad.

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