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  1. Patsfanin Philly

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    I ask this question to Miguel and the other cap number experts. The Patriots had $6,032,711 in their rookie pool. With 9 of them signed, how much is left to sign the other three, (Chung/Ingram/McKenzie)?
    I remember that the Eagles several years ago ran out of money and had to release a DLineman (Brock?) who later signed with Indy..I don't expect the Pats to make such a faux pas but I wonder if they could get creative with McKenzie if need be and could that be why they were alleged to be trying to push Ingram's bonus to 2010????
     
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    If I calculated/read/estimated this correctly

    Rookie cap pool -New England - $6,032,711
    2009 cap number (Thanks Miguel)
    2.34 - S, Patrick Chung, Oregon - ??
    2.40 - DT, Ron Brace, Boston College $754,000
    2.41 - CB, Darius Butler, Connecticut – $750,000
    2.58 - OT, Sebastien Vollmer, Houston - $560,000
    3.83 - WR, Brandon Tate $498,750
    3.97 - LB, Tyrone McKenzie, South Florida (462,500)est’d-*future
    4.123 - G, Rich Ohrnberger, $422,750.
    5.170 - OT, George Bussey, Louiville - $(348,000) est’d **
    6.198 - LS, Jacob Ingram, Hawaii - ($334,250) est’d *** future
    6.207 - DT, Myron Pryor, $329,750
    7.232 - WR, Julian Edelman, Kent State $322,175.
    7.234 - DT, Darryl Richard, $322,000.
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    subtotal $5,104,175 out of $6,032,711

    leaving a 2009 cap number of $928,536.00 for Chung




    *McKenzie estimate based on Beckum picked two slots later Signed (4-years, $2.43M: $620K signing bonus) cap of $462,500(310+152.5)
    **Assuming Ingram gets 4 yrs 1.87million with a $97K signing bonus for a cap number of $334,250 (310K +24,250)
    [FONT=&quot]***Assuming Bussey got 4-years, $1.92M; $152,300 signing bonus based on the pick signed after him cap number of $348,000 (310+ 38)[/FONT]



    I could be totally off the wall...and probably am....
    As I write this Reiss is reporting that he is in Foxborough (Foxboro??) so they have an agreement but no numbers have been released...
     
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    You might be wrong.

    IIRC the cap number for the rookie cap is actually calculated differently than the cap number for the regular salary cap, but I don't recall the exact differences. So while I think your numbers are wrong. I don't know the correct numbers.
     
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    The difference you're thinking of, I think, is that it includes all first-year salary cap hits for drafted rookies, and bonuses only for rookie UDFAs.
     
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    If you are correct than we are missing the UDFA who have bonuses. They are not on the list.
     
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    IIRC Brian Hoyer got a $16K signing bonus but I don't know of any others...
     
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    Most UDFAs get about $5K or so as a signing bonus.
     
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    either way is right
     
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    It was Foxboro when I grew up in Milton/Canton many years ago....I didn't know if three Lombardis made them snobby..........enough to add the 'ugh'
     
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    While it was "Foxboro Stadium," the official name of the town itself has, IIRC, always been Foxborough.
     
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    The signage around the town is pretty much interchangeable. Theres no consistency with either.
     
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    I have estimated the total prorated signing bonus amount for the UDFAs is $20,000. There should be an indicator of that amount on the screenshot
     
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    Got it,thanks....
     
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