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Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempted

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    http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/2007/08/5_cut.html

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    Re: Pats make 5 moves to get to 75

    How does an exemption work?
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    Re: Pats make 5 moves to get to 75

    Glad to see that Sey or Thomas were not placed on Reserve/PUP.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    (A) Richardson to IR = :( [but at least no chance he ends up in GanGREEN this year]

    (B) Thomas not to PUP = :rocker: :robot:
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    Re: Pats make 5 moves to get to 75

    Not yet, but it could still happen.
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    Re: Pats make 5 moves to get to 75

    They're granted by the commissioner usually for 1-2 weeks (although teams may stop them early).

    Branch got one after the trade last year. Larry Johnson got a 2-week one after he signed his contract this year but was activated a day or two into it.
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    Re: Pats make 5 moves to get to 75

    That's true, 23 more moves to be made in the next four days.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Breer reports the exemption is valid through Saturday, the cutdown to 53.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Kind of sucks for Richardson, would have been good to see the rook get some playing time this year, even if he it meant he had to be placed on reserve/PUP. Is there a limit for the number of players you can have on reserve/PUP?
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    What do the players on the PUP and IR list get paid in relation to their contract? A certain percentage? An amount specified in their contract?

    Did Richardson have to agree to going on the IR? or if he personally thought his injury was not season-ending and believed that he could be signed by another interested team could he request or demand that he be released?
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    REALLY deeply bummed for Richardson, but glad he's protected and not at all surprised by this development. Hopefully this red-shirt year will serve him well and he can make his way toward inevitably becoming the DB David Givens a year from now.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Of the three on reserve/PUP, I think the Jackson Two will eventually wind up on IR, and Troy will come back for the second half of the season to replace the receiver who is struggling the most. Kelly, Reche, I'm looking in your directions.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Richardson lost? Can he not even practice with the team? Harsh, because he could have improved alot with the practice.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    IIRC, players on IR can attend meetings, but can't practice or play.

    Yeah, it kinda stinks . . . but, on the flip side, it means more time with Captain Caveman* et al.

    *Mike Woicik
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Would you rather have him practicing for the Jets or in meetings with the Pats?

    Those were the only two choices.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Full pay as long as they are on the list(s). Also count against the cap
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    I guess if I was forced to choose I would say...let's try him in green.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Richardson's situation is the best at this time. He proved he belongs, and that's significant for a first-year, late round draft choice. He has a year to soak up knowledge like a sponge and to truly understand how to become a professional and learn the Pats system, he gets the full amount of his contract, and he can become a workout warrior in preparation for next season. With Samuel back in the fold, it means we've got another CB in the wings for added depth when necessary. This is a win all around.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Well looks like we may end up with Randy, Donte, Wes, Jabar, Reche and Kelly on the opening day roster, however I still have a feeling one of the last two will be cut.

    It's gonna be a tough day on Saturday, I was looking at depth chart and it's a good possibility that more than one of the young players I was hoping to see play this year will not suit up for us: Rogers, Lua, Mills and Andrews. (I say three of the four will either be cut or will encounter some mysterious injury that will keep them out the entire year.)
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    +1. I think this is good for Richardson. He'll have a strong shot to make the team next year. This move shows BB has a lot of faith in him not to leave him hanging on the practice squad.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Yes, amazig how the in injury bug can strike players that are on the bubble this time of year. :cool:
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Not surprised by the moves...my thinking is 2 of the 3 have been on PUP for some time. Probably Eddie and Chad Jackson...I've speculated at that with the roster numbers 2 over and it makes sense. Richardson to IR was more or less expected. He stays with the team and will be solid next year. Also what this does is give the coaches the game to see all the active players...as much as possible. Very nifty. I was surprised by the Samuel exemption and I think they moved Patrick to be sure...just in case.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Just wondering...Shane Stant isn't employed by the Pats as one who does "odd jobs" is he...????? His expertise is the Harding method of qualifying for IR...
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Bummer on Richardson in the sense that he's looked pretty good so far. I like that they keep him though. He should be well served with a paycheck, and lots and lots of schooling.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    No, they needed to cut Patrick too. They have 74 active right now, plus the two active/PUPs give 76, minus Samuel gives 75.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    Andrews is not on the bubble in the least. He is an excellent gunner and BB has spoken very highly of him lately. Not sure why his name keeps coming up with the others.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    No. At least, not necessarily so, and in this case there's no way to know for certain unless it's reported somewhere. It depends on the contract.

    Unless the newest CBA has ended the practice (which I have not heard anything about) there is such a thing as a "split contract", which stipulates a lower pay rate, typically half, if the player goes on IR. (Maybe PUP, too, don't know.) That lower pay rate gets reflected in the salary cap charge, too. It all depends on the individual contract's negotiated terms, and a low round pick will have little leverage in this respect when bargaining.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt


    I agree, he will benefit by being around these guys and these coaches.. he might catch on next year..
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    FWIW - I have presumed that the Patriots have included the split salary concept in all of their deals with Day 2 picks.
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    Re: Pats get to 75: Richardson to IR; Jackson, Jackson, Brown to R/PUP, Samuel exempt

    With regards to Richardson, putting him on IR likely wasn't just a way of protecting his rights. I forgot where I read it but after the Carolina game he had his hand in a small cast and his arm in a sling.

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