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DB,DaBruinz said:Obviously you don;t know more than me. All this shows is that you don't understand about the Patriots 3-4 defense.
Also, this is the 1st I've heard that Mangini was going to the 3-4. I think its a mistake on his part. His players are better suited for the 4-3.
BTW, what does "relied around" mean? Is that some new form of English?
The Jets defense doesn't REVOLVE around anyone. Vilma is the Jets best LB. That's all. The defense doesn't revolve around him though. And, let Mangini test his theory. BB's is proven. He's not had one ILB under 240 lbs. And there is a damn good reason. Unfortunately, you'd rather go with your speculations than proven fact. So be it. Just shows that you are close minded beyond believe and you don't know as much about the Patriots as you think you do.
Mangini is giving a fairly strong indication that he is going to a 3-4, Von Oelhofin (sp?), NE's North Dakota LB - curse it my brain flatulence is firing full time this morning - I expect him to make a bid for Mario Williams to be his Seymour or Haloti Ngata to be his Ty Warren. Dwayne Robinson is his Wilfork, he's got that 3rd rounder from last year Pooha (sp?) or some such to back up at NT, and some other 300 pounders to learn the DE behind Kimo. I fully expect the Jets to employ a base 3-4 this year. It will be interesting to see Vilma in the system, EM may opt for Hawk and move Robinson to DE with Pooha at NT, then he just needs a big DE/OLB. Look for him to be poaching guys like Thomas if he slides to the Practice Squad or scooping up Klecko if he loses his roster spot.
The Jets had a decent defense last year, they can grab a guy like Darryl Tapp in the second and move Chatham! yeh! my two brain cells finally ran into each other! Move Chatham to Willie's slot. Consider a draft of Ngata and Winston in the first, then Tapp in the second, you've got Kimo in his Seymour slot alongside Tapp as Rosie, Robinson inside at NT, Ngata in the Warren slot alongside Chatham. Vilma may or may not hold up at ILB, I have to wonder, but EM was there when BB was plotting how to use him... There are several other LBs on the roster who could plug in at ILB, or Tangini can grab a Parham/Shlegel/Hoyte heavyweight on the second day and hope Vilma is as shifty as Tedy about sliding around blocks inside...or consider a draft of Hawk, Winston, and Tapp - using one of your current DT as your Warren, EM isn't that far from having another killer 3-4 defense with two smart and fast ILBs.
Vilma should be put to the 3-4 test this year, I agree that he disappears if an OL gets through to him, but EM gets the challenge of making BB's secret plan to rule the NFL with Vilma work.
You and Remix both make some valid points in your arguments, it's just you both dialogue with the same disarming charm. Always nice to have you wishy-washy non-opinionated guys to liven things up! :singing: