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  1. Asante4prez

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    I think a team under the radar this year is the New York Jets. They picked up a underrated back, Thomas Jones, who all he does is gain 1400 yds. every year. Running the football was a glaring problem on that team last year....

    I don't know too much about their defense, I know they kept Vilma but lost guys like Abraham. Pennington looked strong in some games last year and the team did end up winning 10 games. As pats fans you'd hate to think their was another team in the AFC east that could compete with us, but I think if not this year, the Jets will be competing (11-13 wins) in this next year or so...

    Does anyone else feel the same way?

    Oh yeah, and Miami and Buffalo will be trash this year....
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    Why?? Why dude?? Why would you ruin my Friday with this Jets garbage......why do I have to type this in again? The jets no longer have a last place schedule and a Kerry Collins-led Titans team to barely beat...it doesn't matter how many boxing coaches Mangyna brings in, the jets will not have a better record than the pats this upcoming year...in fact the jets will not even match last years record, and Ill make a 50 dollar charity bet with any jets fan (only 1 fan) that wants to take my bet!
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    I don't...I really think they'll take a step or two back this year..usually when a team surprises one year, the next misses the mark. I KNOW many think they;ll just improve by a few games..but I just do not see it at all. They had very few injuries last year and seemed to hit the perfect wave with very few obstacles. Not happening this year.
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    I think you need to bring more to the table than misrepresenting Thomas Jones rushing stats, and saying you dont know anything about their defense to predict a marked improvement in the team.

    They were about the worst team in the NFL 2 years ago, and improved to a nice season last year. That wasnt with 53 new players. They still have issues on their roster,some of which were masked by the schedule and good luck with injuries.

    IMO, they are basically an entirely average team. Average teams don't usually stay average, they go one way or the other, but there isn't any more evidence that they will become a juggernaut than there is that they will fall apart and be rebuilding all over again in 2010.
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    Jets will finish 8-8 at best this year. They will take a step back now that they have a tougher schedule. They may play better, but end up with a worse record. Either way, no playoffs for them (or anyone besides the Pats in the AFCE).
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    I understand...I was just saying its a possibility that they could be decent this year.
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    I think they could be decent as well. The team is starting to gather a core of decent talent. Of course, they could be due for QB controversy.
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    Jones had much better blocking in Chicago. He will be getting wrapped up behind the line up scrimmage much more now. Jets have no offensive line, Chad sucks, and a questionable defense. They are at best a 10 - 6 team.
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    #12 Jersey

    I think in preseason you will see something from Kellen Clemens.. I dont think Chad Pennington will be in it for the long hall..
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    They are a better team this year then last, but a tougher schedule so their record should be similar.

    I dont think anyone on the board (whos a Pats fan) thinks the Jets have a chance to achieve a better record then the Pats this year.
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    Jets are like SF to me - a team that had a record better than they should have last year. The Jets beat one team over .500 last year - when they beat the Patriots in that sloppy mud bowl. No other wins against winning teams. None.

    Like SF I think they could be a better team but have a worse record than last year.
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    It's hard to consider the Jets an "under the radar" team considering they're coming off a playoff appearance.

    I think the Jets will improve in 2006, but given the schedule, that improvement will not show in the standings. The Jets are a wild card contender. They are not in the same class as Denver and San Diego, which means they will be fighting for the final wild card spot. Their most likely competition (Cincinnatti/Baltimore and Jacksonville) are far more talented teams.

    Looking at the team's schedule, they open the season against the Pats then teavel to Baltimore. They're looking at a likely 0-2 start. Their midseason schedule is pretty easy, and they can easily head into the stretch run with a 6-4 record, and in the thick of the wild card race. After that, they travel to Dallas, Miami and New England in a 4 week stretch. I think that all but kills their wild card hopes. They finish the season easy with games against Tennessee and Kansas City.

    Bottom line, the Jets are probably an 8-9 win team. A 9 win season should be considered a success. It will take some extreme good fortune and good coaching to reach the 10 win plateau necessary to nail that last playoff spot.
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    This might seem like a crazy notion, but I think the Jets' entire season might boil down to the season opener against the Pats. If they can catch us early and win that first game, it will give them hope that they actually can do something special this year.
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    A BIG if...do u not think?? BUT..I agree..if they win here..it could lead to a better than average season
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    stack the box against jones and force noodlington to throw out patterns...oh yeah...and TACKLE that cotchery guy...

    there is no evidence that the nyj will be an elite team this season in my view
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    Agreed.

    The Jets will be an improved team but with a worse record than last year.

    They just have so many holes to fill - and rather than going for quantity in the draft and free agency, Mangini went for quality - which is wise, but means this is another developmental year.

    Jones will wind up being a steal for a 2nd round pick, but their OL isn't yet ready for primetime.
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    I never said that, thats just being unrealistic, all im saying is they could suprise some of us this year, thats all
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    That's why I didn't quote you :)

    I agree that the Jets will be our only contender for the next few years. Miami and Buffalo are just in disarray at the moment.
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    I think the Jets could make the playoffs again as a wildcard. There defense was one of the top defenses in the second half of the season last year and basically improved every game. They added Thomas Jones to bolster their running game when they averaged like 3.3 ypc last year as a team. Like it or not, Mangini knows what hes doing.
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    ^What he said. Just about every team that has a surprise season regresses the following year.

    The Jets were incredibly healthy last year, and I don't know if Pennington has ever been healthy two years in a row. Teams get a little more psyched up for playoff teams, whereas last year the Jets flew under the radar.

    What's sad is that an 8-8 year should be considered progress. Mangini took over a 4-12 team and getting it to a consistent .500 (rather than Miami's good one year, crappy the next) in year 2 with a promising future should be enough. The truth is that missing the playoffs (and considering NE is a lock in the East and either SD or Denver is pretty much a lock for a wild card, there's 1 playoff spot open for them) will be treated as a failure.
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    The Sporting News predicts 10-6 and Pro Football Weekly predicts 8-8 for the Jest.
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    Huh? They've been stocking it with 1st rounders. Mangold is already getting Pro Bowl buzz (though so are a lot of people). I think the Jets have been building in a sensible way, drafting defensive cogs and o-linemen high.

    I also think this forum routinely underestimates Pennington (from the great college program that gave us Troy Brown and Randy Moss!).

    If the Jets go 9-7 or 10-6, nobody should be surprised.
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    E X A C T L Y.
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    I think they finish 10-6, if Pennington stays healthy all season. If not we'll find out if Clemens is worth anything.
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    If Pennington's arm can stay reattached to his body then the Jets will be ok.
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    I'm goint to agree with alot of people and say the jets will take a step back this year .I've seen it happen to many times before not to think it could happen th to the jets.
    1.They have a tougher schedual.

    2.They can't sneek up on anyone.

    3.Just a posible let down from last year. They got on a roll and beleived in themselves,now they have to replicate that again and if they stumble in the begining it will be harder to do.
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    All the talk of "Mangina" and the "Jest" is pretty juvenile.

    The Jets will be 10-6 and back in the playoffs. People who think they will regress or just go away need to take a reality check. They are not a fluke and not a pest that needs to be brushed aside. The Jets are a legitimate threat.

    BelichickFan, the Jets only beat one opponent better than .500 last year, but the Patriots only beat two (one of which was the Jets). Interestingly enough, the 49ers beat three.
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    Any given sunday? Sure. Playoffs? You bet. Division title? Maybe. Super Bowl? Absolutely no chance in this world with Pennington at QB.

    10-6 is about as high as they can go with Chad.
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    Check your facts before spouting off. The Jets, Packers and Bears all had winning seasons and the Patriots beat all three. What's more, the Titans, Jaguars and Bengals all finished at 8-8 and would have had winning seasons had the Pats not beaten them.

    And without a doubt, Man-vagina and the Jest DEFINITELY are a pest that needs to be brushed aside, early and often. Man-vagina exhausted his copycat bag of tricks in that first-round playoff loss. It's 9-7 for Popgun Pennie and your green beans this year, bubba.

    P.S. Speaking of acting like a juvenile: I had to laugh watching Man-vagina play-acting the role of tough-guy head coach last year, chewing out poor Schottenheimer Jr. on the sidelines when things went wrong. So transparently arrogant and immature, a veritable caricature of BB without the depth or substance.
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    I have no respect for Manweenie as a coach and less for the Jets as a team. I heard Vilma say that they have already caught the Pats, but he has always been an arrogant jerk.

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